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Posted to dev@fineract.apache.org by "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com> on 2016/10/06 21:25:57 UTC

Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Devs,

 

Looks like only transactions done on clients' accounts are reflected in the
Cashier Transactions i.e. Organization >> Tellers >> Transactions.

 

How can a cashier make an internal payment say purchase stationary or pay
telephone bill via cash?

 

I used Journal entry and used Payment type cash when logged in as the
cashier but it's not showing the Cash Out in the teller transaction.

 

Anyone who has successfully made such payment as a cashier and could reflect
in the teller transactions?

 

Kindly advise how you went about it.

 

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Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by Nayan Ambali <na...@gmail.com>.
I have the same understanding of Serge. Teller is meant to serve the bank
customers (withdrawals, deposits, payments) and not for expense
reimbursements, expenses management is separate module and that is not core
business of any banking platform.

I agree that organization needs a expense management that need should* NOT *
be extension of accounting module, instead it should be independent module
and can be integrated with accounting.

The flaw with present teller module is, teller module built as accounting
module extension, that is wrong, instead teller management is independent
module and it can be integrated with accounting module.

Example, LMS is independent module and can be used with or without
accounting module.
Hope I make some sense!

-
Nayan Ambali


On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 at 05:16 Serge AMEGAVIE <se...@ovamba.com>
wrote:

> As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
> account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
> Best Regards
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
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> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
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Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by Markus Geiß <mg...@mifos.org>.
Hey all,

just a heads up.

Given that the current accounting and ledger system is not made for a real
teller service, we will respect this with the work we are doing for the
next generation of Mifos.

All enhancements and additional requirements will be implemented in the new
framework, allowing way more flexibility than today.

Saying this, the current implementation of teller management serves the
purpose it was made for, just customer facing cash transactions, and will
be delivered as is.

Best wishes,


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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:

> Zayyad,
>
> Dayna along with Robert Ippez is working on specifications for an enhanced
> teller cash management module. I'm glad to see that we have so many
> community members with a need for it along with such valuable input. I'll
> have her share a draft of the specification when it's ready so everyone can
> give input and feedback on the requirements.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Sendoro juma <se...@singo.co.tz> wrote:
>
>> Dear Zayyad,
>> I see a room for improvement, may be branch this way!
>> Transactions  - Clients                        - Office
>> Best RegardsSendoro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:19 AM +0300, "Zayyad A. Said" <
>> zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Exactly my sentiments, cashiers should not have access to the main vault.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this whole teller module in Mifos X needs to be enhanced. Having
>> it as a complete separate module would make more sense other than just
>> using payment type of cash.
>>
>>
>>
>> My experience with other banking platforms is that cashiers have their
>> own module where they can do deposit and withdrawal to either customer or
>> GL account.
>>
>>
>>
>> If we just limit the teller module for bank customers then it becomes
>> useless to those MFIs (especially non deposit taking) which do not take
>> cash payments from their clients but use mobile money or bank.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards;
>>
>>
>>
>> *******
>>
>> Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O
>>
>>
>>
>> Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
>>
>> Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: mitos imperial [mailto:nutcracker53@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 07 October 2016 08:12
>> To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; Mifos software development
>> Cc: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org; Zayyad A. Said
>> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio
>> Entries
>>
>>
>>
>> Best business practices would dictate that only cahier has access to the
>> cash vault..transactions are limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out)
>> usually involving cash requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All
>> daily  transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses are
>> done thru the tellers..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" <se...@ovamba.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done
>> from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it works
>> in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the
>> transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance along with
>> denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50
>> To: <se...@ovamba.com>; 'Mifos software development'<
>> mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>; <dev@fineract.incubator.apache
>> .org>
>> Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio
>> Entries
>>
>> I think it does make sense.
>>
>> Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
>> cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
>> cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?
>>
>> I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
>> should this be handled?
>>
>> Regards;
>>
>> *******
>> Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O
>>
>> Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
>> Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com]
>> Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
>> To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio
>> Entries
>>
>> As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
>> account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
>> Best Regards
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
>> To: <de...@fineract.incubator.apache.org>;
>> <mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Reply-To: Mifos software development <mifos-developer@lists.sourcef
>> orge.net>
>> Subject: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
>>
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Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org>.
Zayyad,

Dayna along with Robert Ippez is working on specifications for an enhanced
teller cash management module. I'm glad to see that we have so many
community members with a need for it along with such valuable input. I'll
have her share a draft of the specification when it's ready so everyone can
give input and feedback on the requirements.

Cheers,

Ed

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Sendoro juma <se...@singo.co.tz> wrote:

> Dear Zayyad,
> I see a room for improvement, may be branch this way!
> Transactions  - Clients                        - Office
> Best RegardsSendoro
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:19 AM +0300, "Zayyad A. Said" <
> zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Exactly my sentiments, cashiers should not have access to the main vault.
>
>
>
> I think this whole teller module in Mifos X needs to be enhanced. Having
> it as a complete separate module would make more sense other than just
> using payment type of cash.
>
>
>
> My experience with other banking platforms is that cashiers have their own
> module where they can do deposit and withdrawal to either customer or GL
> account.
>
>
>
> If we just limit the teller module for bank customers then it becomes
> useless to those MFIs (especially non deposit taking) which do not take
> cash payments from their clients but use mobile money or bank.
>
>
>
> Regards;
>
>
>
> *******
>
> Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O
>
>
>
> Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
>
> Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: mitos imperial [mailto:nutcracker53@gmail.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2016 08:12
> To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; Mifos software development
> Cc: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org; Zayyad A. Said
> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
>
>
>
> Best business practices would dictate that only cahier has access to the
> cash vault..transactions are limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out)
> usually involving cash requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All
> daily  transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses are
> done thru the tellers..
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" <se...@ovamba.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done
> from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it works
> in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the
> transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance along with
> denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry.
>
> Thank you
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50
> To: <se...@ovamba.com>; 'Mifos software development'<
> mifos-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>; <dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
> >
> Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
>
> I think it does make sense.
>
> Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
> cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
> cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?
>
> I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
> should this be handled?
>
> Regards;
>
> *******
> Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O
>
> Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
> Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
> To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
>
> As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
> account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
> Best Regards
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
> To: <de...@fineract.incubator.apache.org>;
> <mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Reply-To: Mifos software development <mifos-developer@lists.
> sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
>
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Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by Sendoro juma <se...@singo.co.tz>.
Dear Zayyad,
I see a room for improvement, may be branch this way! 
Transactions  - Clients                        - Office 
Best RegardsSendoro 






On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:19 AM +0300, "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com> wrote:












Exactly my sentiments, cashiers should not have access to the main vault.

 

I think this whole teller module in Mifos X needs to be enhanced. Having it as a complete separate module would make more sense other than just using payment type of cash.

 

My experience with other banking platforms is that cashiers have their own module where they can do deposit and withdrawal to either customer or GL account.

 

If we just limit the teller module for bank customers then it becomes useless to those MFIs (especially non deposit taking) which do not take cash payments from their clients but use mobile money or bank.

 

Regards;

 

*******

Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O

 

Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011

Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com 

 



 

From: mitos imperial [mailto:nutcracker53@gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2016 08:12
To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; Mifos software development
Cc: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org; Zayyad A. Said
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

 

Best business practices would dictate that only cahier has access to the cash vault..transactions are limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out) usually involving cash requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All daily  transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses are done thru the tellers..

 

On Oct 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" <se...@ovamba.com> wrote:

Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it works in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance along with denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry.

Thank you
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50
To: <se...@ovamba.com>; 'Mifos software development'<mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>; <de...@fineract.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

I think it does make sense.

Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?

I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
should this be handled?

Regards;

*******
Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O

Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com]
Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
Best Regards
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
To: <de...@fineract.incubator.apache.org>;
<mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Reply-To: Mifos software development <mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

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RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>.
Exactly my sentiments, cashiers should not have access to the main vault.

 

I think this whole teller module in Mifos X needs to be enhanced. Having it as a complete separate module would make more sense other than just using payment type of cash.

 

My experience with other banking platforms is that cashiers have their own module where they can do deposit and withdrawal to either customer or GL account.

 

If we just limit the teller module for bank customers then it becomes useless to those MFIs (especially non deposit taking) which do not take cash payments from their clients but use mobile money or bank.

 

Regards;

 

*******

Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O

 

Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011

Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com 

 

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From: mitos imperial [mailto:nutcracker53@gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2016 08:12
To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; Mifos software development
Cc: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org; Zayyad A. Said
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

 

Best business practices would dictate that only cahier has access to the cash vault..transactions are limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out) usually involving cash requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All daily  transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses are done thru the tellers..

 

On Oct 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" <se...@ovamba.com> wrote:

Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it works in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance along with denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry.

Thank you
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50
To: <se...@ovamba.com>; 'Mifos software development'<mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>; <de...@fineract.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

I think it does make sense.

Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?

I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
should this be handled?

Regards;

*******
Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O

Cell No.: +254 716 615274 <tel:%2B254%20716%20615274>  | Skype: zsaid2011
Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com]
Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
Best Regards
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
To: <de...@fineract.incubator.apache.org>;
<mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Reply-To: Mifos software development <mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

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Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by mitos imperial <nu...@gmail.com>.
Best business practices would dictate that only cahier has access to the
cash vault..transactions are limited to bulk cash requisition ( in/out)
usually involving cash requisition or transfer by teller to cashier. All
daily  transactions either done with customer or payments of expenses are
done thru the tellers..

On Oct 7, 2016 1:05 PM, "Serge AMEGAVIE" <se...@ovamba.com> wrote:

> Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done
> from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it works
> in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the
> transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance along with
> denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry.
>
> Thank you
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
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> I think it does make sense.
>
> Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
> cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
> cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?
>
> I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
> should this be handled?
>
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> Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
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> Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries
>
> As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
> account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
> Best Regards
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Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by Serge AMEGAVIE <se...@ovamba.com>.
Yes I understand, but it will not be affected if the transaction is done from the main vault, not from the cashier... In fact that is how it works in my particular zone...we do a petty cash allowance from the vault, the transaction show at the main vault and affect it balance along with denomination and the payment is done via a General Ledger journal entry.

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From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:36:50 
To: <se...@ovamba.com>; 'Mifos software development'<mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>; <de...@fineract.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

I think it does make sense.

Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?

I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
should this be handled?

Regards;

*******
Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O

Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
Best Regards
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
To: <de...@fineract.incubator.apache.org>;
<mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Reply-To: Mifos software development <mi...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

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RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by Adi Raju <ad...@confluxtechnologies.com>.
There is no support for handling journal entries thru teller.
A new feature enhancement  would be required.

Regards,
Adi

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From: Zayyad A. Said [mailto:zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2016 10:07
To: serge.amegavie@ovamba.com; 'Mifos software development';
dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

I think it does make sense.

Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?

I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
should this be handled?

Regards;

*******
Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O

Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com]
Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
Best Regards
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
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RE: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>.
I think it does make sense.

Even though it's not a customer transaction but the cash position of the
cashier has been affected, if you want to settle cash don’t you think the
cashier will show to have more cash than what it is actually in the till?

I have seen MFIs using cashiers tills for their petty disbursements, how
should this be handled?

Regards;

*******
Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O

Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: zsaid2011
Email: zayyad@intrasofttechnologies.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: Serge AMEGAVIE [mailto:serge.amegavie@ovamba.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2016 02:15
To: Mifos software development; dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer
account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
Best Regards
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Zayyad A. Said" <za...@intrasofttechnologies.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57
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Re: [Mifos-developer] Cashier Transactions - Non Portfolio Entries

Posted by Serge AMEGAVIE <se...@ovamba.com>.
As this is not a "front office" transaction (meaning from a customer account) I'm not really sure this make sens to appear in cash journal...
Best Regards
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:25:57 
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