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PageParameters
hi
coming from 1.3.x i stumbled upon
public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap).
shouldn´t this be:
public PageParameters(final Map<String, ? extends Object> parameterMap)
or
public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
sorry, if this was discussed alreadys, but i did not follow the generics
discussions so far.
my usecase is something like:
new PageParameters(Maps.create(someString, someInt))
where
Maps.create is defined like:
public static <K, V, KS extends K, VS extends V> Map<K, V> create(final
KS k, final VS v)
cu uwe
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca>.
I agree on the generics front... however are not the params supposed
to be strings?
or do they represent request parameters as well as page attributes?
If they are representing both, maybe they should be separated.
- Brill
On 8-Aug-08, at 12:59 PM, Uwe Schäfer wrote:
> ok, maybe there was too much K and V in my last mail ;)
>
> I´ll try another way round:
>
> wouldn´t it be nice to be able to use smth like that ?
>
> Map<String, Integer> map =...
> PageParameters p = new PageParameters(map);
>
> So if you agree, please switch from
>
> public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap)
> to
> public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
>
> thx, uwe
>
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Uwe Schäfer <us...@thomas-daily.de>.
Igor Vaynberg schrieb:
> done for now
thx again.
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
done for now
-igor
2008/8/8 Uwe Schäfer <sc...@thomas-daily.de>:
> ok, maybe there was too much K and V in my last mail ;)
>
> I´ll try another way round:
>
> wouldn´t it be nice to be able to use smth like that ?
>
> Map<String, Integer> map =...
> PageParameters p = new PageParameters(map);
>
> So if you agree, please switch from
>
> public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap)
> to
> public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
>
> thx, uwe
>
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca>.
Oh I wouldn't take out the convenience methods... but the base should
not be <String,Object> :)
Start with <String, String> then add any convenience methods from there.
I agree that manual conversion would be a bit of a pain, but most
people would only do it once if that was the only option (however its
not, so you don't need to discard anything).
- Brill
On 11-Aug-08, at 11:33 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> then, unfortunately, you have to perform the conversion yourself all
> the time, which is quiet annoying.
>
> -igor
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca> wrote:
>> ok... that make sense to me.
>> The primary then should be <String, String> but maybe overload it
>> so that
>> nothing legacy breaks.
>>
>> I think the <String, ?> will help, but I also think that being
>> specific
>> about what it holds is important... otherwise its trying to be "too
>> smart"
>> and I might get a string representation that I don't want... if it's
>> explicitly <String, String> then you always know exactly what is
>> going
>> in/out.
>>
>> IMO.
>>
>> - Brill Pappin
>>
>>
>> On 11-Aug-08, at 11:07 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
>>
>>> wicket provides convinience methods for working with strings, eg a
>>> method to automatically convert a string to an int so you dont have
>>> to. likewise it will automatically convert all objects you put
>>> into it
>>> to a string.
>>>
>>> -igor
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Lutz Müller <lutz.mueller@combase.de
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thats what I was thinking, too, when I read Uwes post. I did not
>>>> look at
>>>> Wicket 1.4 yet, but had assumed that PageParameters should always
>>>> be
>>>> String to
>>>> String maps, because this is what they are in HTTP.
>>>> But then again, wicket is not strictly HTTP, and when you look at
>>>> the
>>>> javadoc
>>>> comment for PageParameters (at least in 1.3) it explicitly states
>>>> that
>>>> PageParameters might be used with other protocols. Maybe this is
>>>> the
>>>> reason
>>>> why.
>>>>
>>>> Lutz
>>>>
>>>> On Monday 11 August 2008 02:33:56 Brill Pappin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree on the generics front... however are not the params
>>>>> supposed
>>>>> to be strings?
>>>>> or do they represent request parameters as well as page
>>>>> attributes?
>>>>>
>>>>> If they are representing both, maybe they should be separated.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Brill
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8-Aug-08, at 12:59 PM, Uwe Schäfer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ok, maybe there was too much K and V in my last mail ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I´ll try another way round:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wouldn´t it be nice to be able to use smth like that ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Map<String, Integer> map =...
>>>>>> PageParameters p = new PageParameters(map);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if you agree, please switch from
>>>>>>
>>>>>> public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap)
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thx, uwe
>>>>>>
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
then, unfortunately, you have to perform the conversion yourself all
the time, which is quiet annoying.
-igor
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca> wrote:
> ok... that make sense to me.
> The primary then should be <String, String> but maybe overload it so that
> nothing legacy breaks.
>
> I think the <String, ?> will help, but I also think that being specific
> about what it holds is important... otherwise its trying to be "too smart"
> and I might get a string representation that I don't want... if it's
> explicitly <String, String> then you always know exactly what is going
> in/out.
>
> IMO.
>
> - Brill Pappin
>
>
> On 11-Aug-08, at 11:07 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
>
>> wicket provides convinience methods for working with strings, eg a
>> method to automatically convert a string to an int so you dont have
>> to. likewise it will automatically convert all objects you put into it
>> to a string.
>>
>> -igor
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Lutz Müller <lu...@combase.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thats what I was thinking, too, when I read Uwes post. I did not look at
>>> Wicket 1.4 yet, but had assumed that PageParameters should always be
>>> String to
>>> String maps, because this is what they are in HTTP.
>>> But then again, wicket is not strictly HTTP, and when you look at the
>>> javadoc
>>> comment for PageParameters (at least in 1.3) it explicitly states that
>>> PageParameters might be used with other protocols. Maybe this is the
>>> reason
>>> why.
>>>
>>> Lutz
>>>
>>> On Monday 11 August 2008 02:33:56 Brill Pappin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree on the generics front... however are not the params supposed
>>>> to be strings?
>>>> or do they represent request parameters as well as page attributes?
>>>>
>>>> If they are representing both, maybe they should be separated.
>>>>
>>>> - Brill
>>>>
>>>> On 8-Aug-08, at 12:59 PM, Uwe Schäfer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ok, maybe there was too much K and V in my last mail ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> I´ll try another way round:
>>>>>
>>>>> wouldn´t it be nice to be able to use smth like that ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Map<String, Integer> map =...
>>>>> PageParameters p = new PageParameters(map);
>>>>>
>>>>> So if you agree, please switch from
>>>>>
>>>>> public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap)
>>>>> to
>>>>> public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
>>>>>
>>>>> thx, uwe
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca>.
ok... that make sense to me.
The primary then should be <String, String> but maybe overload it so
that nothing legacy breaks.
I think the <String, ?> will help, but I also think that being
specific about what it holds is important... otherwise its trying to
be "too smart" and I might get a string representation that I don't
want... if it's explicitly <String, String> then you always know
exactly what is going in/out.
IMO.
- Brill Pappin
On 11-Aug-08, at 11:07 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> wicket provides convinience methods for working with strings, eg a
> method to automatically convert a string to an int so you dont have
> to. likewise it will automatically convert all objects you put into it
> to a string.
>
> -igor
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Lutz Müller
> <lu...@combase.de> wrote:
>> Thats what I was thinking, too, when I read Uwes post. I did not
>> look at
>> Wicket 1.4 yet, but had assumed that PageParameters should always
>> be String to
>> String maps, because this is what they are in HTTP.
>> But then again, wicket is not strictly HTTP, and when you look at
>> the javadoc
>> comment for PageParameters (at least in 1.3) it explicitly states
>> that
>> PageParameters might be used with other protocols. Maybe this is
>> the reason
>> why.
>>
>> Lutz
>>
>> On Monday 11 August 2008 02:33:56 Brill Pappin wrote:
>>> I agree on the generics front... however are not the params supposed
>>> to be strings?
>>> or do they represent request parameters as well as page attributes?
>>>
>>> If they are representing both, maybe they should be separated.
>>>
>>> - Brill
>>>
>>> On 8-Aug-08, at 12:59 PM, Uwe Schäfer wrote:
>>>> ok, maybe there was too much K and V in my last mail ;)
>>>>
>>>> I´ll try another way round:
>>>>
>>>> wouldn´t it be nice to be able to use smth like that ?
>>>>
>>>> Map<String, Integer> map =...
>>>> PageParameters p = new PageParameters(map);
>>>>
>>>> So if you agree, please switch from
>>>>
>>>> public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap)
>>>> to
>>>> public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
>>>>
>>>> thx, uwe
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
wicket provides convinience methods for working with strings, eg a
method to automatically convert a string to an int so you dont have
to. likewise it will automatically convert all objects you put into it
to a string.
-igor
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Lutz Müller <lu...@combase.de> wrote:
> Thats what I was thinking, too, when I read Uwes post. I did not look at
> Wicket 1.4 yet, but had assumed that PageParameters should always be String to
> String maps, because this is what they are in HTTP.
> But then again, wicket is not strictly HTTP, and when you look at the javadoc
> comment for PageParameters (at least in 1.3) it explicitly states that
> PageParameters might be used with other protocols. Maybe this is the reason
> why.
>
> Lutz
>
> On Monday 11 August 2008 02:33:56 Brill Pappin wrote:
>> I agree on the generics front... however are not the params supposed
>> to be strings?
>> or do they represent request parameters as well as page attributes?
>>
>> If they are representing both, maybe they should be separated.
>>
>> - Brill
>>
>> On 8-Aug-08, at 12:59 PM, Uwe Schäfer wrote:
>> > ok, maybe there was too much K and V in my last mail ;)
>> >
>> > I´ll try another way round:
>> >
>> > wouldn´t it be nice to be able to use smth like that ?
>> >
>> > Map<String, Integer> map =...
>> > PageParameters p = new PageParameters(map);
>> >
>> > So if you agree, please switch from
>> >
>> > public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap)
>> > to
>> > public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
>> >
>> > thx, uwe
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > THOMAS DAILY GmbH
>> > Adlerstraße 19
>> > 79098 Freiburg
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Lutz Müller <lu...@combase.de>.
Thats what I was thinking, too, when I read Uwes post. I did not look at
Wicket 1.4 yet, but had assumed that PageParameters should always be String to
String maps, because this is what they are in HTTP.
But then again, wicket is not strictly HTTP, and when you look at the javadoc
comment for PageParameters (at least in 1.3) it explicitly states that
PageParameters might be used with other protocols. Maybe this is the reason
why.
Lutz
On Monday 11 August 2008 02:33:56 Brill Pappin wrote:
> I agree on the generics front... however are not the params supposed
> to be strings?
> or do they represent request parameters as well as page attributes?
>
> If they are representing both, maybe they should be separated.
>
> - Brill
>
> On 8-Aug-08, at 12:59 PM, Uwe Schäfer wrote:
> > ok, maybe there was too much K and V in my last mail ;)
> >
> > I´ll try another way round:
> >
> > wouldn´t it be nice to be able to use smth like that ?
> >
> > Map<String, Integer> map =...
> > PageParameters p = new PageParameters(map);
> >
> > So if you agree, please switch from
> >
> > public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap)
> > to
> > public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
> >
> > thx, uwe
> >
> > --
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Re: PageParameters
Posted by Uwe Schäfer <sc...@thomas-daily.de>.
ok, maybe there was too much K and V in my last mail ;)
I´ll try another way round:
wouldn´t it be nice to be able to use smth like that ?
Map<String, Integer> map =...
PageParameters p = new PageParameters(map);
So if you agree, please switch from
public PageParameters(final Map<String, Object> parameterMap)
to
public PageParameters(final Map<String, ?> parameterMap)
thx, uwe
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