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[Lepido][Contribution] Sitemap Debugger/Trace

Hi,

as there seems to be a growing demand for some Cocoon debugging tools
we (s&n AG) want to jump in and help to develop a debugger 
infrastructure for Cocoon.  

As an initial starting point we want to contribute the Sitemap 
Debugger/Trace which is a part of sunBow
(http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow).
We have ported the client to Eclipse 3.1 and the server-side 
part to Cocoon 2.1.8dev and 2.2dev, so we have a working initial version.

Some more information about the debugger can be found here:
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/LepdioSitemapDebugger

The contribution can be found here:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=109367

With this contribution and our engagement we want to help the Lepido project
to grow and to attract more developers and users.

If you want to see some more parts of sunBow in Lepido have a look
at http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow and let us
know
which features do you want. As an addition to the functions mentioned there
we have a basic prototype of a flow-script debugger based on Eclipse
(it's more or less a port of the one which is included in Rhino, but there
is some work to do).

(Please keep discussions about this contribution on the Lepido mailinglist
and newsgroup. See http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/ for more details)

--
kind regards
Carsten Ziegeler & Jens Maukisch
Open Source Group, s&n AG


Re: [Lepido][Contribution] Sitemap Debugger/Trace

Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Jens Maukisch wrote:

>Hi,
>
>as there seems to be a growing demand for some Cocoon debugging tools we (s&n AG) want to jump in and help to develop a debugger infrastructure for Cocoon.  
>  
>
<snip/>

>With this contribution and our engagement we want to help the Lepido project to grow and to attract more developers and users.
>  
>

This is a very welcome contribution for which the (small) Lepido 
community is very thankful, and it's a pleasure to see people jump in. 
The plans for the Lepido debugger include of course the sitemap which is 
an essential part of every Cocoon application, but also other important 
components such as XSLT, JXTemplate or Rhino.

It would therefore be good to work together on the unified debugger 
architecture mentioned in the Lepido proposal [1], merging your 
experience with the sunBow debugger together with our ideas and 
prototypes for an extensible debugger, that would also be based on 
Eclipse's generic debugger infrastructure.

Thanks again for this contribution.

Sylvain

-- 
Sylvain Wallez                        Anyware Technologies
http://people.apache.org/~sylvain     http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member     Research & Technology Director


Re: [Lepido][Contribution] Sitemap Debugger/Trace

Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Jens Maukisch wrote:

>Hi,
>
>as there seems to be a growing demand for some Cocoon debugging tools we (s&n AG) want to jump in and help to develop a debugger infrastructure for Cocoon.  
>  
>
<snip/>

>With this contribution and our engagement we want to help the Lepido project to grow and to attract more developers and users.
>  
>

This is a very welcome contribution for which the (small) Lepido 
community is very thankful, and it's a pleasure to see people jump in. 
The plans for the Lepido debugger include of course the sitemap which is 
an essential part of every Cocoon application, but also other important 
components such as XSLT, JXTemplate or Rhino.

It would therefore be good to work together on the unified debugger 
architecture mentioned in the Lepido proposal [1], merging your 
experience with the sunBow debugger together with our ideas and 
prototypes for an extensible debugger, that would also be based on 
Eclipse's generic debugger infrastructure.

Thanks again for this contribution.

Sylvain

-- 
Sylvain Wallez                        Anyware Technologies
http://people.apache.org/~sylvain     http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member     Research & Technology Director


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Re: [Lepido][Contribution] Sitemap Debugger/Trace

Posted by Michael Schlotfeldt <mj...@max-imp.com>.
One of the URLs below is incorrect. It should be:
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/LepidoSitemapDebugger

"Lepido" was spelled slightly incorrect.



Oleg Konovalov wrote:
> Jens,
> 
> That is indeed a good news !
> 
> Just a clarification:
> - in one place you say it will only work with Cocoon 2.1.8 and 
> 2.2 (and Eclipse 3.1), in another 2.1.4 (Eclipse 3.0)
> 
> If I have a few Cocoon 2.0.4 apps which I need to debug
> [written by people who are no longer around],
> does it mean I can not use your tool
> or it is just "not supported" ?
> 
> In general, is it a big problem to move from 2.0.4 to 2.1X or
> 2.2
> Are they not backward compatible ?
> (using them on JBoss 3.0.7)
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Oleg.
> 
> --- Jens Maukisch <jm...@s-und-n.de> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>as there seems to be a growing demand for some Cocoon
>>debugging tools
>>we (s&n AG) want to jump in and help to develop a debugger 
>>infrastructure for Cocoon.  
>>
>>As an initial starting point we want to contribute the Sitemap
>>
>>Debugger/Trace which is a part of sunBow
>>
> 
> (http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow).
> 
>>We have ported the client to Eclipse 3.1 and the server-side 
>>part to Cocoon 2.1.8dev and 2.2dev, so we have a working
>>initial version.
>>
>>Some more information about the debugger can be found here:
>>http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/LepdioSitemapDebugger
>>
>>The contribution can be found here:
>>https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=109367
>>
>>With this contribution and our engagement we want to help the
>>Lepido project
>>to grow and to attract more developers and users.
>>
>>If you want to see some more parts of sunBow in Lepido have a
>>look
>>at
>>http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow
>>and let us
>>know
>>which features do you want. As an addition to the functions
>>mentioned there
>>we have a basic prototype of a flow-script debugger based on
>>Eclipse
>>(it's more or less a port of the one which is included in
>>Rhino, but there
>>is some work to do).
>>
>>(Please keep discussions about this contribution on the Lepido
>>mailinglist
>>and newsgroup. See http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/ for more
>>details)
>>
>>--
>>kind regards
>>Carsten Ziegeler & Jens Maukisch
>>Open Source Group, s&n AG
>>
>>
>>
> 
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Re: [Lepido][Contribution] Sitemap Debugger/Trace

Posted by Michael Schlotfeldt <mj...@max-imp.com>.
One of the URLs below is incorrect. It should be:
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/LepidoSitemapDebugger

"Lepido" was spelled slightly incorrect.



Oleg Konovalov wrote:
> Jens,
> 
> That is indeed a good news !
> 
> Just a clarification:
> - in one place you say it will only work with Cocoon 2.1.8 and 
> 2.2 (and Eclipse 3.1), in another 2.1.4 (Eclipse 3.0)
> 
> If I have a few Cocoon 2.0.4 apps which I need to debug
> [written by people who are no longer around],
> does it mean I can not use your tool
> or it is just "not supported" ?
> 
> In general, is it a big problem to move from 2.0.4 to 2.1X or
> 2.2
> Are they not backward compatible ?
> (using them on JBoss 3.0.7)
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Oleg.
> 
> --- Jens Maukisch <jm...@s-und-n.de> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>as there seems to be a growing demand for some Cocoon
>>debugging tools
>>we (s&n AG) want to jump in and help to develop a debugger 
>>infrastructure for Cocoon.  
>>
>>As an initial starting point we want to contribute the Sitemap
>>
>>Debugger/Trace which is a part of sunBow
>>
> 
> (http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow).
> 
>>We have ported the client to Eclipse 3.1 and the server-side 
>>part to Cocoon 2.1.8dev and 2.2dev, so we have a working
>>initial version.
>>
>>Some more information about the debugger can be found here:
>>http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/LepdioSitemapDebugger
>>
>>The contribution can be found here:
>>https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=109367
>>
>>With this contribution and our engagement we want to help the
>>Lepido project
>>to grow and to attract more developers and users.
>>
>>If you want to see some more parts of sunBow in Lepido have a
>>look
>>at
>>http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow
>>and let us
>>know
>>which features do you want. As an addition to the functions
>>mentioned there
>>we have a basic prototype of a flow-script debugger based on
>>Eclipse
>>(it's more or less a port of the one which is included in
>>Rhino, but there
>>is some work to do).
>>
>>(Please keep discussions about this contribution on the Lepido
>>mailinglist
>>and newsgroup. See http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/ for more
>>details)
>>
>>--
>>kind regards
>>Carsten Ziegeler & Jens Maukisch
>>Open Source Group, s&n AG
>>
>>
>>
> 
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Re: [Lepido][Contribution] Sitemap Debugger/Trace

Posted by Oleg Konovalov <ol...@yahoo.com>.
Jens,

That is indeed a good news !

Just a clarification:
- in one place you say it will only work with Cocoon 2.1.8 and 
2.2 (and Eclipse 3.1), in another 2.1.4 (Eclipse 3.0)

If I have a few Cocoon 2.0.4 apps which I need to debug
[written by people who are no longer around],
does it mean I can not use your tool
or it is just "not supported" ?

In general, is it a big problem to move from 2.0.4 to 2.1X or
2.2
Are they not backward compatible ?
(using them on JBoss 3.0.7)


Thank you,
Oleg.

--- Jens Maukisch <jm...@s-und-n.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> as there seems to be a growing demand for some Cocoon
> debugging tools
> we (s&n AG) want to jump in and help to develop a debugger 
> infrastructure for Cocoon.  
> 
> As an initial starting point we want to contribute the Sitemap
> 
> Debugger/Trace which is a part of sunBow
>
(http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow).
> We have ported the client to Eclipse 3.1 and the server-side 
> part to Cocoon 2.1.8dev and 2.2dev, so we have a working
> initial version.
> 
> Some more information about the debugger can be found here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/LepdioSitemapDebugger
> 
> The contribution can be found here:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=109367
> 
> With this contribution and our engagement we want to help the
> Lepido project
> to grow and to attract more developers and users.
> 
> If you want to see some more parts of sunBow in Lepido have a
> look
> at
> http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow
> and let us
> know
> which features do you want. As an addition to the functions
> mentioned there
> we have a basic prototype of a flow-script debugger based on
> Eclipse
> (it's more or less a port of the one which is included in
> Rhino, but there
> is some work to do).
> 
> (Please keep discussions about this contribution on the Lepido
> mailinglist
> and newsgroup. See http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/ for more
> details)
> 
> --
> kind regards
> Carsten Ziegeler & Jens Maukisch
> Open Source Group, s&n AG
> 
> 
>
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Re: [Lepido][Contribution] Sitemap Debugger/Trace

Posted by Oleg Konovalov <ol...@yahoo.com>.
Jens,

That is indeed a good news !

Just a clarification:
- in one place you say it will only work with Cocoon 2.1.8 and 
2.2 (and Eclipse 3.1), in another 2.1.4 (Eclipse 3.0)

If I have a few Cocoon 2.0.4 apps which I need to debug
[written by people who are no longer around],
does it mean I can not use your tool
or it is just "not supported" ?

In general, is it a big problem to move from 2.0.4 to 2.1X or
2.2
Are they not backward compatible ?
(using them on JBoss 3.0.7)


Thank you,
Oleg.

--- Jens Maukisch <jm...@s-und-n.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> as there seems to be a growing demand for some Cocoon
> debugging tools
> we (s&n AG) want to jump in and help to develop a debugger 
> infrastructure for Cocoon.  
> 
> As an initial starting point we want to contribute the Sitemap
> 
> Debugger/Trace which is a part of sunBow
>
(http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow).
> We have ported the client to Eclipse 3.1 and the server-side 
> part to Cocoon 2.1.8dev and 2.2dev, so we have a working
> initial version.
> 
> Some more information about the debugger can be found here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/LepdioSitemapDebugger
> 
> The contribution can be found here:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=109367
> 
> With this contribution and our engagement we want to help the
> Lepido project
> to grow and to attract more developers and users.
> 
> If you want to see some more parts of sunBow in Lepido have a
> look
> at
> http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/de/produkte/english/sunbow
> and let us
> know
> which features do you want. As an addition to the functions
> mentioned there
> we have a basic prototype of a flow-script debugger based on
> Eclipse
> (it's more or less a port of the one which is included in
> Rhino, but there
> is some work to do).
> 
> (Please keep discussions about this contribution on the Lepido
> mailinglist
> and newsgroup. See http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/ for more
> details)
> 
> --
> kind regards
> Carsten Ziegeler & Jens Maukisch
> Open Source Group, s&n AG
> 
> 
>
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