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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> on 2016/05/21 14:41:19 UTC
Base for presentation
In connection with the "Encouraging More Women into Participate in
Apache Projects?" I am going to try to talk to some student groups,
especially a WIC chapter, about Apache.
Part of the presentation will be directly related to why women do fine
in ASF, including my personal experiences. That I can and should write
myself.
I also need a general introduction to ASF, and why a young programmer
should consider getting involved in it. I'm sure that has already been
written. Any suggestions for presentations I could adopt and adapt?
Patricia
Re: Base for presentation
Posted by Daniel Ruggeri <DR...@primary.net>.
On 5/21/2016 10:19 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> ComDev has a speaker resources page. I urge everyone who has a relevant
> slide deck or the like to add it there:
>
> http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html
>
> Separately, if folks are also interested in how the internals of the
> Foundation are governed, we've got that too:
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/
>
> - Shane
I forgot about this until you mentioned it. I sent along a patch to the
slides page to include some slides I threw together since I don't have
karma to add to the site[1].
Friendly poke to fellow comdevs... can someone commit, please?
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/Z9qxbr90o4897y9
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Daniel Ruggeri
Re: Base for presentation
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
On 5/21/2016 10:31 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>
> On 5/21/16, 4:29 PM, "Patricia Shanahan" <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
>> Good points. Unfortunately, the projects in which I'm currently active
>> are not very beginner-friendly.
>>
>> Could people suggest a few projects that would benefit from, and be able
>> to use, relatively inexperienced programmers right now?
>
> Apache Flex. IMO, we want to be the choice for new programmers as well as
> experienced programmers. Full disclosure: Justin and Harbs and I are all
> on the PMC. Not sure what kind of impression we left on the Sharan
> thread, but I honestly don't think I've seen any improper behavior toward
> someone based on some demographic attribute.
Thanks. Given the statistics, I assume most projects have not seen any
problems. That is part of the message I want to convey.
Re: Base for presentation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 5/21/16, 4:29 PM, "Patricia Shanahan" <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
>Good points. Unfortunately, the projects in which I'm currently active
>are not very beginner-friendly.
>
>Could people suggest a few projects that would benefit from, and be able
>to use, relatively inexperienced programmers right now?
Apache Flex. IMO, we want to be the choice for new programmers as well as
experienced programmers. Full disclosure: Justin and Harbs and I are all
on the PMC. Not sure what kind of impression we left on the Sharan
thread, but I honestly don't think I've seen any improper behavior toward
someone based on some demographic attribute.
-Alex
Re: Base for presentation
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
On 5/21/2016 2:50 PM, Louis Surez-Potts wrote:
>
>> On 21 05 2016, at 11:19, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Patricia Shanahan wrote on 5/21/16 9:41 AM:
>>> In connection with the "Encouraging More Women into Participate
>>> in Apache Projects?" I am going to try to talk to some student
>>> groups, especially a WIC chapter, about Apache.
>>>
>>> Part of the presentation will be directly related to why women do
>>> fine in ASF, including my personal experiences. That I can and
>>> should write myself.
>>>
>>> I also need a general introduction to ASF, and why a young
>>> programmer should consider getting involved in it. I'm sure that
>>> has already been written. Any suggestions for presentations I
>>> could adopt and adapt?
>>>
>>> Patricia
>>
>> ComDev has a speaker resources page. I urge everyone who has a
>> relevant slide deck or the like to add it there:
>>
>> http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html
>>
>> Separately, if folks are also interested in how the internals of
>> the Foundation are governed, we've got that too:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/
>
> These are good slides. Thanks for the reminder, Shane.
>
> I'd also suggest that, as I've learned ("from personal experience":
> anecdotal and specific but maybe useful), I was able to engage and
> involve more people (regardless of subject position [translated:
> however they define themselves or are defined as selves by others])
> by being concrete and specific regarding projects. ASF as a general
> idea is great, but it's about doing, and that means, at least for me
> and for many others, doing in particular projects. In practice, this
> means it might help (read: probably will, but not necessarily)
> focusing on those projects you think cool and (or) know. Also helps
> to bring out the stalwarts of those who can speak to the virtues and
> excitements of their projects. And Apache has a lot of those and
> that's to its credit.
Good points. Unfortunately, the projects in which I'm currently active
are not very beginner-friendly.
Could people suggest a few projects that would benefit from, and be able
to use, relatively inexperienced programmers right now?
Patricia
Re: Base for presentation
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
> On 21 05 2016, at 11:19, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>
> Patricia Shanahan wrote on 5/21/16 9:41 AM:
>> In connection with the "Encouraging More Women into Participate in
>> Apache Projects?" I am going to try to talk to some student groups,
>> especially a WIC chapter, about Apache.
>>
>> Part of the presentation will be directly related to why women do fine
>> in ASF, including my personal experiences. That I can and should write
>> myself.
>>
>> I also need a general introduction to ASF, and why a young programmer
>> should consider getting involved in it. I'm sure that has already been
>> written. Any suggestions for presentations I could adopt and adapt?
>>
>> Patricia
>
> ComDev has a speaker resources page. I urge everyone who has a relevant
> slide deck or the like to add it there:
>
> http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html
>
> Separately, if folks are also interested in how the internals of the
> Foundation are governed, we've got that too:
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/
These are good slides. Thanks for the reminder, Shane.
I'd also suggest that, as I've learned ("from personal experience": anecdotal and specific but maybe useful), I was able to engage and involve more people (regardless of subject position [translated: however they define themselves or are defined as selves by others]) by being concrete and specific regarding projects. ASF as a general idea is great, but it's about doing, and that means, at least for me and for many others, doing in particular projects. In practice, this means it might help (read: probably will, but not necessarily) focusing on those projects you think cool and (or) know. Also helps to bring out the stalwarts of those who can speak to the virtues and excitements of their projects. And Apache has a lot of those and that's to its credit.
Cheers,
Louis
>
> - Shane
Re: Base for presentation
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Patricia Shanahan wrote on 5/21/16 9:41 AM:
> In connection with the "Encouraging More Women into Participate in
> Apache Projects?" I am going to try to talk to some student groups,
> especially a WIC chapter, about Apache.
>
> Part of the presentation will be directly related to why women do fine
> in ASF, including my personal experiences. That I can and should write
> myself.
>
> I also need a general introduction to ASF, and why a young programmer
> should consider getting involved in it. I'm sure that has already been
> written. Any suggestions for presentations I could adopt and adapt?
>
> Patricia
ComDev has a speaker resources page. I urge everyone who has a relevant
slide deck or the like to add it there:
http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html
Separately, if folks are also interested in how the internals of the
Foundation are governed, we've got that too:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/
- Shane
Re: Base for presentation
Posted by Bob Paulin <bo...@bobpaulin.com>.
Hi Patricia,
I've given some talks on this that are not specific to woman but might
be useful [1][2]. I'd be happy to discuss any of the details of the
presentation directly.
- Bob
[1]
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/ApacheWayFIRST.pdf
[2]
http://schd.ws/hosted_files/apachecon2016/63/Recruiting%20for%20Apache.pdf
On 5/21/2016 9:41 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> In connection with the "Encouraging More Women into Participate in
> Apache Projects?" I am going to try to talk to some student groups,
> especially a WIC chapter, about Apache.
>
> Part of the presentation will be directly related to why women do fine
> in ASF, including my personal experiences. That I can and should write
> myself.
>
> I also need a general introduction to ASF, and why a young programmer
> should consider getting involved in it. I'm sure that has already been
> written. Any suggestions for presentations I could adopt and adapt?
>
> Patricia
>
Re: Base for presentation
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 05/21/2016 10:41 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> In connection with the "Encouraging More Women into Participate in
> Apache Projects?" I am going to try to talk to some student groups,
> especially a WIC chapter, about Apache.
>
> Part of the presentation will be directly related to why women do fine
> in ASF, including my personal experiences. That I can and should write
> myself.
>
> I also need a general introduction to ASF, and why a young programmer
> should consider getting involved in it. I'm sure that has already been
> written. Any suggestions for presentations I could adopt and adapt?
My 'Apache Way' presentation, which is built on many others over the
years, is at https://github.com/rbowen/presentations/tree/master/apache_way
--Rich
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Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon