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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by Tom Calloway <to...@earthlink.net> on 2004/09/27 23:33:32 UTC
choosing Lenya for legislative documentation
Hi,
I am looking for a CMS that can handle highvolume traffic and a high volume of xml text from legislative proceedings.
My website will by like www.meetup.com, except that there will be extensive text from decisions reached at meetings on motions based on parliamentary procedure. As an xml model, I'm looking at some efforts to standardize an xml [DTD?] for legislatures.
I also need an mysql database to catalog users of the website along with their text, so it looks like that is possible with cocoon, when mysql is preferable to xml.
Can anyone offer me information on other factors to consider or perhaps other CMSs to consider?
I'm willing to learn, but I must admit that Lenya's current documentation and lack of an Admin GUI and other pre-built features (like extensions/plug-ins that other CMSs have) has me worried.
Thanks,
Tom
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Re: choosing Lenya for legislative documentation
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Tom Calloway wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for a CMS that can handle highvolume traffic and a high volume of xml text from legislative proceedings.
>
>My website will by like www.meetup.com, except that there will be extensive text from decisions reached at meetings on motions based on parliamentary procedure. As an xml model, I'm looking at some efforts to standardize an xml [DTD?] for legislatures.
>
>
you might want to use DocBook. If I remember correctly then the state of
Colorado wanted to use DocBook for its regulations, but I am not sure if
they did in the end.
>I also need an mysql database to catalog users of the website along with their text, so it looks like that is possible with cocoon, when mysql is preferable to xml.
>
>
that shouldn't be a problem, but maybe I don't fully understand.
Can you explain a bit more?
>Can anyone offer me information on other factors to consider or perhaps other CMSs to consider?
>
>
without being Lenya-centric, but I think if you want to do content
management where the content is XML then Lenya/Cocoon is the perfect choice.
Otherwise youl will find other CMSs listed at OSCOM http://www.oscom.org
(btw, tomorrow will be the 3-day OSCOM 4 with Apache track conference in
Zurich ;-)
>I'm willing to learn, but I must admit that Lenya's current documentation and lack of an Admin GUI and other pre-built features (like extensions/plug-ins that other CMSs have) has me worried.
>
>
what do you think is missing from the Admin GUI?
What extensions/plug-ins are you missing?
Michi
>Thanks,
>
>Tom
>
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Re: choosing Lenya for legislative documentation
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
This could be interesting for those interested in XML and law - who can read
German:
XML-Standard für gerichtliche Entscheidungen
http://edvgt.jura.uni-sb.de/Tagung00/ak00/xml2000.htm
XJustiz - Elektronischer Rechtsverkehr mit XML
http://www.bundesgerichtshof.de/presse/xjustiz.php
(I know that court documents and legislative documents are not the same.)
Cheers,
Andreas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Pierre LeJacq" <jp...@quoininc.com>
To: "Lenya Users List" <le...@cocoon.apache.org>; "Tom Calloway"
<to...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: choosing Lenya for legislative documentation
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Tom Calloway wrote:
>
> > My website will by like www.meetup.com, except that there will be
> > extensive text from decisions reached at meetings on motions based
> > on parliamentary procedure. As an xml model, I'm looking at some
> > efforts to standardize an xml [DTD?] for legislatures.
>
> This might be a bit far off, but are you familiar with the various
> efforts to standardize on XML Schemes for law? These might be close
> to what you want. If you think so, I can forward some references.
>
>
> > I also need an mysql database to catalog users of the website
> > along with their text, so it looks like that is possible with
> > cocoon, when mysql is preferable to xml.
>
> Sure. You can use the builtin facilities of Cocoon to go directly
> to a database using mysql or any number of other databases. You can
> also use a model based on a separate persistence layer like
> hibernate. This later approach is simple to implement in Cocoon
> and, IMHO, a better long term solution.
>
>
> > Can anyone offer me information on other factors to consider or
> > perhaps other CMSs to consider?
>
> Pretty open ended. Take a look at http://www.cmswatch.com/ as a
> starting point.
>
>
> > I'm willing to learn, but I must admit that Lenya's current
> > documentation and lack of an Admin GUI and other pre-built
> > features (like extensions/plug-ins that other CMSs have) has me
> > worried.
>
> Lenya does have an Admin GUI. Are there missing functionality?
>
> While Lenya doesn't have a simple GUI based approach to plugins, it
> is built on Cocoon and therefore provides you the full power of that
> platform. I suggest this is much better than most CMSs.
>
> --
> JP
>
>
>
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Re: choosing Lenya for legislative documentation
Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Tom Calloway wrote:
> My website will by like www.meetup.com, except that there will be
> extensive text from decisions reached at meetings on motions based
> on parliamentary procedure. As an xml model, I'm looking at some
> efforts to standardize an xml [DTD?] for legislatures.
This might be a bit far off, but are you familiar with the various
efforts to standardize on XML Schemes for law? These might be close
to what you want. If you think so, I can forward some references.
> I also need an mysql database to catalog users of the website
> along with their text, so it looks like that is possible with
> cocoon, when mysql is preferable to xml.
Sure. You can use the builtin facilities of Cocoon to go directly
to a database using mysql or any number of other databases. You can
also use a model based on a separate persistence layer like
hibernate. This later approach is simple to implement in Cocoon
and, IMHO, a better long term solution.
> Can anyone offer me information on other factors to consider or
> perhaps other CMSs to consider?
Pretty open ended. Take a look at http://www.cmswatch.com/ as a
starting point.
> I'm willing to learn, but I must admit that Lenya's current
> documentation and lack of an Admin GUI and other pre-built
> features (like extensions/plug-ins that other CMSs have) has me
> worried.
Lenya does have an Admin GUI. Are there missing functionality?
While Lenya doesn't have a simple GUI based approach to plugins, it
is built on Cocoon and therefore provides you the full power of that
platform. I suggest this is much better than most CMSs.
--
JP
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