Re: [DISCUSS] Rolling shepherds?

["John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>]

At least for this go around, I did the work manually (basically, scan the
report, see who had some problem that a shepherd could have helped with and
did the shepherd provide a comment). Comparing podlings that weren't quite
perfect to shepherds that made notes of it.  I would say the following
shepherds did not provide due diligence during this month's report:

- Andrei Savu *
- Dave Fisher
- Matthew Franklin
- Raphael Bircher

The following shepherds either did not provide, or did provide but saw no
issues to comment on within their podlings:

- Alan Cabrera
- Ross Gardler
- Suresh Marru

Basically, this means that more than 50% of the shepherds are seemingly
idle on the report perspective.

John

* = I was split on Andrei's placing, as Drill should have fallen off but
they have not properly graduated from podlings.xml stand point.

On Tue Nov 25 2014 at 4:33:06 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Seen from the POW of one who is new around here, it seems a bit like
> having
> > a title for the sake of a title.
>
> I mean, we have to call that function *something*
>
> > I understand and value the functions of both "champion" and "mentor" and
> of
> > course also the "iPMC". But I fail to see the big difference between
> being
> > an official shepherd, and just helping a project.
>
> The only difference here is that we have to track shepherd so that
> our script knows the pool of folks to assign.
>
> Also, being on that list is a really good karma booster for non-ASF members
> interested in helping around Incubator in a more formal capacity.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Rolling shepherds?

["Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>]

On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:30 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:

> The following shepherds either did not provide, or did provide but saw no
> issues to comment on within their podlings:
> 
> - Alan Cabrera

I am committed to reviewing the podlings for which I am a mentor.  For other podlings, not so much.  When I am a shepherd and I have time to review a podling, I will.  Often, I do not have that time.

If this criteria is inadequate for me being a shepherd then feel free to remove me from the rotating list.


Regards,
Alan

Re: [DISCUSS] Rolling shepherds?

[Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>]

Hi -

I was off of the mailing lists for sometime. Work has been taking most all of my time for most of 2014 and I am catching up today.

Please remove me from the shepherd list for a few months. I'll let the list know if I find enough bandwidth later in the new year.

Regards,
Dave

On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:

> Thanks for running the report, John! Not sure what
> the next step should be, but perhaps reaching out
> to these folks directly and asking whether they still
> want to be listed as shepherds?
> 
> Thanks,
> Roman.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:30 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> At least for this go around, I did the work manually (basically, scan the
>> report, see who had some problem that a shepherd could have helped with and
>> did the shepherd provide a comment). Comparing podlings that weren't quite
>> perfect to shepherds that made notes of it.  I would say the following
>> shepherds did not provide due diligence during this month's report:
>> 
>> - Andrei Savu *
>> - Dave Fisher
>> - Matthew Franklin
>> - Raphael Bircher
>> 
>> The following shepherds either did not provide, or did provide but saw no
>> issues to comment on within their podlings:
>> 
>> - Alan Cabrera
>> - Ross Gardler
>> - Suresh Marru
>> 
>> Basically, this means that more than 50% of the shepherds are seemingly
>> idle on the report perspective.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> * = I was split on Andrei's placing, as Drill should have fallen off but
>> they have not properly graduated from podlings.xml stand point.
>> 
>> On Tue Nov 25 2014 at 4:33:06 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Seen from the POW of one who is new around here, it seems a bit like
>>> having
>>>> a title for the sake of a title.
>>> 
>>> I mean, we have to call that function *something*
>>> 
>>>> I understand and value the functions of both "champion" and "mentor" and
>>> of
>>>> course also the "iPMC". But I fail to see the big difference between
>>> being
>>>> an official shepherd, and just helping a project.
>>> 
>>> The only difference here is that we have to track shepherd so that
>>> our script knows the pool of folks to assign.
>>> 
>>> Also, being on that list is a really good karma booster for non-ASF members
>>> interested in helping around Incubator in a more formal capacity.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roman.
>>> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Rolling shepherds?

[Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>]

Thanks for running the report, John! Not sure what
the next step should be, but perhaps reaching out
to these folks directly and asking whether they still
want to be listed as shepherds?

Thanks,
Roman.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:30 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> At least for this go around, I did the work manually (basically, scan the
> report, see who had some problem that a shepherd could have helped with and
> did the shepherd provide a comment). Comparing podlings that weren't quite
> perfect to shepherds that made notes of it.  I would say the following
> shepherds did not provide due diligence during this month's report:
>
> - Andrei Savu *
> - Dave Fisher
> - Matthew Franklin
> - Raphael Bircher
>
> The following shepherds either did not provide, or did provide but saw no
> issues to comment on within their podlings:
>
> - Alan Cabrera
> - Ross Gardler
> - Suresh Marru
>
> Basically, this means that more than 50% of the shepherds are seemingly
> idle on the report perspective.
>
> John
>
> * = I was split on Andrei's placing, as Drill should have fallen off but
> they have not properly graduated from podlings.xml stand point.
>
> On Tue Nov 25 2014 at 4:33:06 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Seen from the POW of one who is new around here, it seems a bit like
>> having
>> > a title for the sake of a title.
>>
>> I mean, we have to call that function *something*
>>
>> > I understand and value the functions of both "champion" and "mentor" and
>> of
>> > course also the "iPMC". But I fail to see the big difference between
>> being
>> > an official shepherd, and just helping a project.
>>
>> The only difference here is that we have to track shepherd so that
>> our script knows the pool of folks to assign.
>>
>> Also, being on that list is a really good karma booster for non-ASF members
>> interested in helping around Incubator in a more formal capacity.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
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