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Posted to dev@whimsical.apache.org by Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> on 2020/10/27 17:27:37 UTC
Broken link
Hi:
On this page [1] there is a link that purports to go to "Infra reference
pages". Since that section no longer exists on the Infra wiki, the link is
broken. If you wanted to provide a general link to the services Infra
provides, this URL [2] might serve.
Andrew
[1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/tools
[2] https://infra.apache.org/services.html
--
Andrew Wetmore
Technical Writer-Editor
Infra
*Apache Software Foundation*
andreww@apache.org
Re: Broken link
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 1:27 PM Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> On this page [1] there is a link that purports to go to "Infra reference
> pages". Since that section no longer exists on the Infra wiki, the link is
> broken. If you wanted to provide a general link to the services Infra
> provides, this URL [2] might serve.
>
> Andrew
>
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/tools
>
> [2] https://infra.apache.org/services.html
Fixed, thanks!
https://github.com/apache/whimsy/commit/e32b543fd5807325c6bea635b4b88d036ca2ae1c
- Sam Ruby
Re: Broken link
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 13:02, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Unlikely, as Infra does not have editing access to Whimsy pages.
Sorry, I was not clear.
Whimsy originally used https://reference.apache.org/.
That stopped working when Infra moved off that host.
Eventually Infra added redirects (see INFRA-19185), but in the
meantime Whimsy was updated to use the new page, i.e.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Reference
Recently that also stopped working, presumably because of further
changes to the INFRA wiki.
Whimsy should not have to keep changing its links.
> Andrew
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 9:51 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > FTR, I have just re-discovered
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19185.
> > This shows that reference.apache.org used to work, and the redirect
> > was set up by Infra.
> >
> > As such, breakages should be handled by Infra.
> >
> > S.
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 23:14, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 18:11, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Sebb. The target page no longer exists and there is no replacement.
> > >
> > > I know, but there *should* be a replacement.
> > > URLs should not be broken unnecessarily.
> > >
> > > The page is a replacement for the website index at
> > >
> > > https://reference.apache.org/
> > >
> > > which now leads nowhere.
> > >
> > > What are link holders supposed to do about that?
> > >
> > > It does not make sense that some of the lower-level URLs such as
> > >
> > > https://reference.apache.org/committer/github
> > >
> > > redirect OK, but the top-level ones do not.
> > >
> > > > If there were, I would have provided the redirect as you suggested.
> > Whimsy can do with the broken link as it sees best, but I thought you might
> > want to know about it.
> > >
> > > Thanks, but I still think the onus is on Infra to not break links.
> > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 2:34 PM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 17:27, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On this page [1] there is a link that purports to go to "Infra
> > reference
> > > >> > pages". Since that section no longer exists on the Infra wiki, the
> > link is
> > > >> > broken.
> > > >>
> > > >> The link is likely to be used elsewhere than in Whimsy, so it seems to
> > > >> me the most helpful solution would be to provide a redirect from the
> > > >> old page.
> > > >>
> > > >> > If you wanted to provide a general link to the services Infra
> > > >> > provides, this URL [2] might serve.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks, but why should Whimsy have to fix something it did not break?
> > > >>
> > > >> > Andrew
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/tools
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [2] https://infra.apache.org/services.html
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >> > Technical Writer-Editor
> > > >> > Infra
> > > >> > *Apache Software Foundation*
> > > >> > andreww@apache.org
> >
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
> Technical Writer-Editor
> Infra
> *Apache Software Foundation*
> andreww@apache.org
Re: Broken link
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org>.
Unlikely, as Infra does not have editing access to Whimsy pages.
Andrew
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 9:51 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FTR, I have just re-discovered
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19185.
> This shows that reference.apache.org used to work, and the redirect
> was set up by Infra.
>
> As such, breakages should be handled by Infra.
>
> S.
>
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 23:14, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 18:11, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Sebb. The target page no longer exists and there is no replacement.
> >
> > I know, but there *should* be a replacement.
> > URLs should not be broken unnecessarily.
> >
> > The page is a replacement for the website index at
> >
> > https://reference.apache.org/
> >
> > which now leads nowhere.
> >
> > What are link holders supposed to do about that?
> >
> > It does not make sense that some of the lower-level URLs such as
> >
> > https://reference.apache.org/committer/github
> >
> > redirect OK, but the top-level ones do not.
> >
> > > If there were, I would have provided the redirect as you suggested.
> Whimsy can do with the broken link as it sees best, but I thought you might
> want to know about it.
> >
> > Thanks, but I still think the onus is on Infra to not break links.
> >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 2:34 PM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 17:27, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi:
> > >> >
> > >> > On this page [1] there is a link that purports to go to "Infra
> reference
> > >> > pages". Since that section no longer exists on the Infra wiki, the
> link is
> > >> > broken.
> > >>
> > >> The link is likely to be used elsewhere than in Whimsy, so it seems to
> > >> me the most helpful solution would be to provide a redirect from the
> > >> old page.
> > >>
> > >> > If you wanted to provide a general link to the services Infra
> > >> > provides, this URL [2] might serve.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, but why should Whimsy have to fix something it did not break?
> > >>
> > >> > Andrew
> > >> >
> > >> > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/tools
> > >> >
> > >> > [2] https://infra.apache.org/services.html
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > Technical Writer-Editor
> > >> > Infra
> > >> > *Apache Software Foundation*
> > >> > andreww@apache.org
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
Technical Writer-Editor
Infra
*Apache Software Foundation*
andreww@apache.org
Re: Broken link
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
FTR, I have just re-discovered
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19185.
This shows that reference.apache.org used to work, and the redirect
was set up by Infra.
As such, breakages should be handled by Infra.
S.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 23:14, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 18:11, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Sebb. The target page no longer exists and there is no replacement.
>
> I know, but there *should* be a replacement.
> URLs should not be broken unnecessarily.
>
> The page is a replacement for the website index at
>
> https://reference.apache.org/
>
> which now leads nowhere.
>
> What are link holders supposed to do about that?
>
> It does not make sense that some of the lower-level URLs such as
>
> https://reference.apache.org/committer/github
>
> redirect OK, but the top-level ones do not.
>
> > If there were, I would have provided the redirect as you suggested. Whimsy can do with the broken link as it sees best, but I thought you might want to know about it.
>
> Thanks, but I still think the onus is on Infra to not break links.
>
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 2:34 PM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 17:27, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi:
> >> >
> >> > On this page [1] there is a link that purports to go to "Infra reference
> >> > pages". Since that section no longer exists on the Infra wiki, the link is
> >> > broken.
> >>
> >> The link is likely to be used elsewhere than in Whimsy, so it seems to
> >> me the most helpful solution would be to provide a redirect from the
> >> old page.
> >>
> >> > If you wanted to provide a general link to the services Infra
> >> > provides, this URL [2] might serve.
> >>
> >> Thanks, but why should Whimsy have to fix something it did not break?
> >>
> >> > Andrew
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/tools
> >> >
> >> > [2] https://infra.apache.org/services.html
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Andrew Wetmore
> >> > Technical Writer-Editor
> >> > Infra
> >> > *Apache Software Foundation*
> >> > andreww@apache.org
Re: Broken link
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 18:11, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi, Sebb. The target page no longer exists and there is no replacement.
I know, but there *should* be a replacement.
URLs should not be broken unnecessarily.
The page is a replacement for the website index at
https://reference.apache.org/
which now leads nowhere.
What are link holders supposed to do about that?
It does not make sense that some of the lower-level URLs such as
https://reference.apache.org/committer/github
redirect OK, but the top-level ones do not.
> If there were, I would have provided the redirect as you suggested. Whimsy can do with the broken link as it sees best, but I thought you might want to know about it.
Thanks, but I still think the onus is on Infra to not break links.
> Andrew
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 2:34 PM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 17:27, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi:
>> >
>> > On this page [1] there is a link that purports to go to "Infra reference
>> > pages". Since that section no longer exists on the Infra wiki, the link is
>> > broken.
>>
>> The link is likely to be used elsewhere than in Whimsy, so it seems to
>> me the most helpful solution would be to provide a redirect from the
>> old page.
>>
>> > If you wanted to provide a general link to the services Infra
>> > provides, this URL [2] might serve.
>>
>> Thanks, but why should Whimsy have to fix something it did not break?
>>
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/tools
>> >
>> > [2] https://infra.apache.org/services.html
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andrew Wetmore
>> > Technical Writer-Editor
>> > Infra
>> > *Apache Software Foundation*
>> > andreww@apache.org
Re: Broken link
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org>.
Hi, Sebb. The target page no longer exists and there is no replacement. If
there were, I would have provided the redirect as you suggested. Whimsy can
do with the broken link as it sees best, but I thought you might want to
know about it.
Andrew
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 2:34 PM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 17:27, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > On this page [1] there is a link that purports to go to "Infra reference
> > pages". Since that section no longer exists on the Infra wiki, the link
> is
> > broken.
>
> The link is likely to be used elsewhere than in Whimsy, so it seems to
> me the most helpful solution would be to provide a redirect from the
> old page.
>
> > If you wanted to provide a general link to the services Infra
> > provides, this URL [2] might serve.
>
> Thanks, but why should Whimsy have to fix something it did not break?
>
> > Andrew
> >
> > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/tools
> >
> > [2] https://infra.apache.org/services.html
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> > Technical Writer-Editor
> > Infra
> > *Apache Software Foundation*
> > andreww@apache.org
>
Re: Broken link
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 17:27, Andrew Wetmore <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> On this page [1] there is a link that purports to go to "Infra reference
> pages". Since that section no longer exists on the Infra wiki, the link is
> broken.
The link is likely to be used elsewhere than in Whimsy, so it seems to
me the most helpful solution would be to provide a redirect from the
old page.
> If you wanted to provide a general link to the services Infra
> provides, this URL [2] might serve.
Thanks, but why should Whimsy have to fix something it did not break?
> Andrew
>
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/tools
>
> [2] https://infra.apache.org/services.html
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
> Technical Writer-Editor
> Infra
> *Apache Software Foundation*
> andreww@apache.org