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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> on 2004/06/03 15:52:08 UTC

Re: Embedding Jasper / JSP compiling

Rick Knowles wrote:
> It was mainly a case of doing something so I could learn how it really 
> worked and why - I didn't consider using Coyote mainly because the http 
> request/response parsing was an important part of the understanding 
> process, and I didn't want to miss out on the details of that. The bug 
> fixing was/is part of that learning process.
> 
> (Side note: The AJP13 protocol docs were, in fact, very good - good 
> enough that I was able to write 95% of the java-side of the connector 
> without reading the source code for the tomcat connector. It wasn't 
> until the last stages of debugging that I looked at the source. Well 
> done to whoever wrote those.)
> 
> I expect it would be good for people who just want to distribute an 
> extra jar with their webapp to make it deployable. Kind of like a 
> no-brainer/no-frills deployment case .... easy, works, but if you want 
> more features, use something more sophisticated. If that's the kind of 
> alternate container you're looking for, I'm all ears.

I had missed the reply, sorry for the late answer.

So now that you have learnt, are you more ineterested in using the TC 
connectors ? Casually looking at the HTTP code, I can say it is not 
especially efficient (and really optimizing this part is rather long and 
painful).
If you want to join this project, your servlet API implementation could 
become an alternative to Catalina (I know the idea floated around on a 
few occasions in the past).

Rémy


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Re: Embedding Jasper / JSP compiling

Posted by Rick Knowles <ri...@knowleses.org>.
Remy,

> So now that you have learnt, are you more ineterested in using the TC 
> connectors ? Casually looking at the HTTP code, I can say it is not 
> especially efficient (and really optimizing this part is rather long 
> and painful).
> If you want to join this project, your servlet API implementation 
> could become an alternative to Catalina (I know the idea floated 
> around on a few occasions in the past).
>
> Rémy

I've been thinking a lot about this over the last few days about this, 
and I think the best answer to give is "thanks for the offer, but not 
just yet".

Having watched this list for the last month or so now, I can anticipate 
there would be clashes in working style and priorities that would be 
more hassle than they were worth for all involved. I know it sounds 
selfish, but I guess I'm just enjoying having this as a solo project too 
much to give it up yet.

I think the best plan would be to wait until I feel Winstone has reached 
its end point (in terms of what I can give it), and then just donate it 
so you guys can replace whatever you want.

Thanks again for the offer ... it was very tempting, but knowing the way 
I work, I'd say not good in the long term.

Rick

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