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Could not check out the file
When I try to edit a specific document (as levi) I get
the following message.
Could not check out the file
Reason : The resource has already been checked out by
another user
User: alice
Date: Thu Apr 29 15:51:50 EDT 2004
Filename: /content/authoring/asdf/index_en.xml
If I login as alice how do I release the file so that
other users can edit it.
Thanks,
Kirk
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
I updated the http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaFAQ yesterday
and you can read there the background to the problem.
Jann is right, that is the way to prefend interacting with the file system.
King regards
Thorsten
Jann Forrer wrote:
>On Tue, 11 May 2004, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
>
>
>>Kirk Storer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>When I try to edit a specific document (as levi) I get
>>>the following message.
>>>
>>>Could not check out the file
>>>
>>>Reason : The resource has already been checked out by
>>>another user
>>>User: alice
>>>Date: Thu Apr 29 15:51:50 EDT 2004
>>>Filename: /content/authoring/asdf/index_en.xml
>>>
>>>If I login as alice how do I release the file so that
>>>other users can edit it.
>>>
>>>
>
>If you login as alice (the user who checke out the file) you can still
>edit the file and if you save it correctly i.e. release the lock other
>user can again edit the file. In that case you dont have to work within
>the filesystem.
>
>Jann
>
>
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Jann Forrer <ja...@id.unizh.ch>.
On Tue, 11 May 2004, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> Kirk Storer wrote:
>
> > When I try to edit a specific document (as levi) I get
> > the following message.
> >
> > Could not check out the file
> >
> > Reason : The resource has already been checked out by
> > another user
> > User: alice
> > Date: Thu Apr 29 15:51:50 EDT 2004
> > Filename: /content/authoring/asdf/index_en.xml
> >
> > If I login as alice how do I release the file so that
> > other users can edit it.
>
If you login as alice (the user who checke out the file) you can still
edit the file and if you save it correctly i.e. release the lock other
user can again edit the file. In that case you dont have to work within
the filesystem.
Jann
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
How about a kind of session timeout.
The user can check out the file for lets say 5-10 min after that he will
get a system message that the leash is expired.
For offline editing we could use that leash system in a
"rent-a-document" manner. You can check out the doc for a certain time
after that the scheduler releases the lock
King regards
thorsten
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
>> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should
>> not have to
>> bother breaking locks.
>>
>> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
>> automatically?
>
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
>
> -- Andreas
>
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 09:37, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
> > I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> > bother breaking locks.
> >
> > Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> > automatically?
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
I think the lock/unlock behaviour should be configurable on publication
level.
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
>> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should
>> not have to
>> bother breaking locks.
>>
>> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
>> automatically?
>
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
I think the problem is to recognize when a session is over, because
the servlet API has become more restrictive.
Many people don't really logout explicitely.
But I think for productive use of Lenya it's very important to see
what users are being loged in.
Michi
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Jann Forrer <ja...@id.unizh.ch>.
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
> > I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> > bother breaking locks.
> >
> > Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> > automatically?
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
I thought the information whether a user is logged is not available
yet?
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
>
Another thought: What if the administrator of a publication can edit
every file and is therefore able to release the lock? I know, not a very
sophisticated method ;-)
Jann
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
>> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should
>> not have to
>> bother breaking locks.
>>
>> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
>> automatically?
>
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
I think the problem is to recognize when a session is over, because
the servlet API has become more restrictive.
Many people don't really logout explicitely.
But I think for productive use of Lenya it's very important to see
what users are being loged in.
Michi
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Jann Forrer <ja...@id.unizh.ch>.
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
> > I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> > bother breaking locks.
> >
> > Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> > automatically?
>
> The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
> and otherwise check in the document ...
>
I thought the information whether a user is logged is not available
yet?
> <random-thought>
> Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
> </random-thought>
>
Another thought: What if the administrator of a publication can edit
every file and is therefore able to release the lock? I know, not a very
sophisticated method ;-)
Jann
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> bother breaking locks.
>
> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> automatically?
The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
and otherwise check in the document ...
<random-thought>
Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
</random-thought>
-- Andreas
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
> bother breaking locks.
>
> Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
> automatically?
The system could check if the other editing user is still logged in
and otherwise check in the document ...
<random-thought>
Maybe someone wants to implement optimistic offline lock :)
</random-thought>
-- Andreas
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
bother breaking locks.
Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
automatically?
Andreas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>
To: "Lenya Users List" <le...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Could not check out the file
> Kirk Storer wrote:
>
> > When I try to edit a specific document (as levi) I get
> > the following message.
> >
> > Could not check out the file
> >
> > Reason : The resource has already been checked out by
> > another user
> > User: alice
> > Date: Thu Apr 29 15:51:50 EDT 2004
> > Filename: /content/authoring/asdf/index_en.xml
> >
> > If I login as alice how do I release the file so that
> > other users can edit it.
>
> unfortunately, currently there is no GUI way to break a lock. you have
> to go into content/rcml/content/authoring/yourpage/index_en.xml.rcml and
> look at the entries in there
>
> <CheckOut>
> <Identity>lenya</Identity>
> <Time>1083252253647</Time>
> </CheckOut>
>
> if the most recent (the ones on top) are CheckOut and no corresponding
> CheckIn you have a lock. you can break the lock by removing the CheckOut
> line.
>
> i updated the FAQ http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaFAQ
>
> we really need to have an admin function to do that.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gregor J. Rothfuss
> Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
> http://wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
> gregor.rothfuss@wyona.com gregor@apache.org
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> Kirk Storer wrote:
>
>> When I try to edit a specific document (as levi) I get
>> the following message.
>>
>> Could not check out the file
>>
>> Reason : The resource has already been checked out by
>> another user User: alice
>> Date: Thu Apr 29 15:51:50 EDT 2004
>> Filename: /content/authoring/asdf/index_en.xml
>>
>> If I login as alice how do I release the file so that
>> other users can edit it.
>
just open the document as "alice" (e.g. with the forms editor) and hit
CANCEL
(probably you hit the browser return button when you were alice before)
and then it should be checked-in again.
>
>
> we really need to have an admin function to do that.
one enhancement would certainly be to break the lock.
Another enhancement feature ;-)
Michi
>
>
>
>
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
I think that this is a critical problem. Lenya administrators should not have to
bother breaking locks.
Is there no way to handle "check out without a following check in"
automatically?
Andreas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>
To: "Lenya Users List" <le...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Could not check out the file
> Kirk Storer wrote:
>
> > When I try to edit a specific document (as levi) I get
> > the following message.
> >
> > Could not check out the file
> >
> > Reason : The resource has already been checked out by
> > another user
> > User: alice
> > Date: Thu Apr 29 15:51:50 EDT 2004
> > Filename: /content/authoring/asdf/index_en.xml
> >
> > If I login as alice how do I release the file so that
> > other users can edit it.
>
> unfortunately, currently there is no GUI way to break a lock. you have
> to go into content/rcml/content/authoring/yourpage/index_en.xml.rcml and
> look at the entries in there
>
> <CheckOut>
> <Identity>lenya</Identity>
> <Time>1083252253647</Time>
> </CheckOut>
>
> if the most recent (the ones on top) are CheckOut and no corresponding
> CheckIn you have a lock. you can break the lock by removing the CheckOut
> line.
>
> i updated the FAQ http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaFAQ
>
> we really need to have an admin function to do that.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gregor J. Rothfuss
> Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
> http://wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
> gregor.rothfuss@wyona.com gregor@apache.org
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Re: Could not check out the file
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Kirk Storer wrote:
> When I try to edit a specific document (as levi) I get
> the following message.
>
> Could not check out the file
>
> Reason : The resource has already been checked out by
> another user
> User: alice
> Date: Thu Apr 29 15:51:50 EDT 2004
> Filename: /content/authoring/asdf/index_en.xml
>
> If I login as alice how do I release the file so that
> other users can edit it.
unfortunately, currently there is no GUI way to break a lock. you have
to go into content/rcml/content/authoring/yourpage/index_en.xml.rcml and
look at the entries in there
<CheckOut>
<Identity>lenya</Identity>
<Time>1083252253647</Time>
</CheckOut>
if the most recent (the ones on top) are CheckOut and no corresponding
CheckIn you have a lock. you can break the lock by removing the CheckOut
line.
i updated the FAQ http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaFAQ
we really need to have an admin function to do that.
--
Gregor J. Rothfuss
Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
http://wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
gregor.rothfuss@wyona.com gregor@apache.org
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