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[VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase three

another batch of (what i hope are) policy neutral changes to the
policy document. i'll tally this vote no earlier than 2000 GMT
wednesday 6th september 2006.

i'm +1 to all

- robert

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-40 adds license header
[ ] +1 Approve
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Reject

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-41 cut unnessary preamble
[ ] +1 Approve
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Reject

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-42 tighter, more
consistent wording
[ ] +1 Approve
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Reject

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-43 cut unnecessary words
[ ] +1 Approve
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Reject

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-44 cut discursive
material better handled in the guides
[ ] +1 Approve
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Reject

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-45 improvement to
wording in ongoing activities and add link to referenced section
[ ] +1 Approve
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Reject

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-46 tightened prose
[ ] +1 Approve
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Reject

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-47 move reading
material into release guide
[ ] +1 Approve
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Reject
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[RESULT][VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase three

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
please check my tally:

On 8/30/06, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-40 adds license header

binding:
+1 robert burrell donkin
+1 Yoav Shapira
+1 Davanum Srinivas

PASSED

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-41 cut unnessary preamble

binding:
+1 robert burrell donkin
-0 Yoav Shapira
+1 Davanum Srinivas

FAILED

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-42 tighter, more
> consistent wording

binding:
+1 robert burrell donkin
+1 Yoav Shapira
+1 Davanum Srinivas

PASSED

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-43 cut unnecessary words
binding:
+1 robert burrell donkin
+1 Yoav Shapira
+1 Davanum Srinivas

PASSED

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-44 cut discursive
> material better handled in the guides

WITHDRAWN

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-45 improvement to
> wording in ongoing activities and add link to referenced section

binding:
+1 robert burrell donkin
+1 Yoav Shapira
+1 Davanum Srinivas

PASSED

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-46 tightened prose

binding:
+1 robert burrell donkin
+1 Yoav Shapira
+1 Davanum Srinivas

PASSED

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-47 move reading
> material into release guide

binding:
+1 robert burrell donkin
+1 Yoav Shapira
+1 Davanum Srinivas

PASSED

unless someone reports that i have miscounted soon, i will apply those
patches that passed.

- robert

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Re: Re: [VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase three

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 8/30/06, Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org> wrote:

> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-44 cut discursive
> > material better handled in the guides
> > [ ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ X ] -0
>
> Like Craig Russel's comment on the JIRA issue itself, I find this
> material useful.  If it's better handled somewhere, fine, but let's
> provide a link to that better location here.

i'm going to withdraw this patch for now and come back with an
alternative proposal in a later round.

- robert

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Re: [VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase three

Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 to all items.

On 8/30/06, Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > --8<-------------------------------------------------------------------
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-40 adds license header
> > [ X ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ ] -0
> > [ ] -1 Reject
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-41 cut unnessary preamble
> > [ ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ X ] -0
>
> I don't think the preamble hurts, and it provides readers with the
> useful notice that the document they're reading may be incomplete (as
> it's guaranteed to become over time).
>
> > [ ] -1 Reject
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-42 tighter, more
> > consistent wording
> > [  X ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ ] -0
> > [ ] -1 Reject
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-43 cut unnecessary words
> > [ X ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ ] -0
> > [ ] -1 Reject
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-44 cut discursive
> > material better handled in the guides
> > [ ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ X ] -0
>
> Like Craig Russel's comment on the JIRA issue itself, I find this
> material useful.  If it's better handled somewhere, fine, but let's
> provide a link to that better location here.
>
> > [ ] -1 Reject
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-45 improvement to
> > wording in ongoing activities and add link to referenced section
> > [  X ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ ] -0
> > [ ] -1 Reject
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-46 tightened prose
> > [ X ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ ] -0
> > [ ] -1 Reject
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-47 move reading
> > material into release guide
> > [ X ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ ] -0
> > [ ] -1 Reject
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Yoav
>
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Re: Re: [VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase three

Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
Hi,

On 8/30/06, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip />
> i think that it would be much better to move the discursive material
> to CTR documents (and in particular into the new longer more
> discursive guides) leaving pretty much just minimal statements of
> policy in the document.
>
> (hopefully anyone disagrees with this approach will jump in)
>
> but it's probably that i'll overstep the mark in some cases. i'll have
> a think and add some comments to the JIRAs.

This is something like what I was hoping you'd say.  It's fine by me.
Because you're shepherding this effort and seem to have a clear
overall vision, I only wanted to voice my comments and maybe -0 a
couple of them, not -1.

Yoav

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Re: Re: [VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase three

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 8/30/06, Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,

(grouping together a couple of related issues)

> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-41 cut unnessary preamble
> > [ ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ X ] -0
>
> I don't think the preamble hurts, and it provides readers with the
> useful notice that the document they're reading may be incomplete (as
> it's guaranteed to become over time).

<snip>

> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-44 cut discursive
> > material better handled in the guides
> > [ ] +1 Approve
> > [ ] +0
> > [ X ] -0
>
> Like Craig Russel's comment on the JIRA issue itself, I find this
> material useful.  If it's better handled somewhere, fine, but let's
> provide a link to that better location here.

the policy document is RTC. this means it's hard to improve or keep
information up to date. the discursive material also makes it hard to
see what the policies actually are. discursive material also is much
more likely to become outdated than policy.

i think that it would be much better to move the discursive material
to CTR documents (and in particular into the new longer more
discursive guides) leaving pretty much just minimal statements of
policy in the document.

(hopefully anyone disagrees with this approach will jump in)

but it's probably that i'll overstep the mark in some cases. i'll have
a think and add some comments to the JIRAs.

- robert

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Re: [VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase three

Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
Hi,

> --8<-------------------------------------------------------------------
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-40 adds license header
> [ X ] +1 Approve
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Reject
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-41 cut unnessary preamble
> [ ] +1 Approve
> [ ] +0
> [ X ] -0

I don't think the preamble hurts, and it provides readers with the
useful notice that the document they're reading may be incomplete (as
it's guaranteed to become over time).

> [ ] -1 Reject
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-42 tighter, more
> consistent wording
> [  X ] +1 Approve
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Reject
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-43 cut unnecessary words
> [ X ] +1 Approve
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Reject
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-44 cut discursive
> material better handled in the guides
> [ ] +1 Approve
> [ ] +0
> [ X ] -0

Like Craig Russel's comment on the JIRA issue itself, I find this
material useful.  If it's better handled somewhere, fine, but let's
provide a link to that better location here.

> [ ] -1 Reject
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-45 improvement to
> wording in ongoing activities and add link to referenced section
> [  X ] +1 Approve
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Reject
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-46 tightened prose
> [ X ] +1 Approve
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Reject
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-47 move reading
> material into release guide
> [ X ] +1 Approve
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Reject
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yoav

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