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Posted to dev@activemq.apache.org by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> on 2014/02/10 16:12:04 UTC
"Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>.
@James Carman
I'm open to helping with the angular+bootstrap stuff when the opportunity
presents itself, I think its a cool idea.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Please disregard my previous email vote on the road map.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> +1 on Dan's roadmap.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Jim Gomes <e....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for the project roadmap outlined by Dan.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Can I break this down into 3 potential targets? We currently have
>>> users
>>> > asking about a possible 5.9.1 release to fix some serious issues
>>> there. In
>>> > addition, we have been talking about getting a 5.10 release out that
>>> has
>>> > some of the newer updates.
>>> >
>>> > My proposal would be:
>>> >
>>> > For 5.9.1 - console pretty much "as is" except the critical fixes.
>>> > Likely the URL encoding fixes and the OOM fixes.
>>> >
>>> > For 5.10.0 - include the other fixes such as the war size reductions
>>> and
>>> > dependency updates, etc.... Go through the various JIRA's that have
>>> patches
>>> > and look at them. Nothing earth shattering at this point as I
>>> wouldn't
>>> > want to hold up 5.10, but make sure users that have submitted patches
>>> and
>>> > such have their solutions incorporated to show the console is being
>>> updated.
>>> >
>>> > For 5.11 - I'm assuming this would be the target for this discussion.
>>> :-)
>>> >
>>> > For this, I'm certainly OK with flipping from the JSP based approach
>>> to,
>>> > well, anything. If you feel AngularJS/Bootstrap is the best way to
>>> go,
>>> > I'd certainly support that and be happy to learn a bit to help out.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At this point, however, I'm kind of concentrating on what I can do for
>>> the
>>> > 5.10.0 and 5.9.1 releases. I'd like to do whatever I can to get
>>> those out.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:12 AM, James Carman <james@carmanconsulting.com
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
>>> > > using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Daniel Kulp
>>> > dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>> > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>.
Please disregard my previous email vote on the road map.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>wrote:
> +1 on Dan's roadmap.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Jim Gomes <e....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 for the project roadmap outlined by Dan.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Can I break this down into 3 potential targets? We currently have
>> users
>> > asking about a possible 5.9.1 release to fix some serious issues there.
>> In
>> > addition, we have been talking about getting a 5.10 release out that has
>> > some of the newer updates.
>> >
>> > My proposal would be:
>> >
>> > For 5.9.1 - console pretty much "as is" except the critical fixes.
>> > Likely the URL encoding fixes and the OOM fixes.
>> >
>> > For 5.10.0 - include the other fixes such as the war size reductions and
>> > dependency updates, etc.... Go through the various JIRA's that have
>> patches
>> > and look at them. Nothing earth shattering at this point as I wouldn't
>> > want to hold up 5.10, but make sure users that have submitted patches
>> and
>> > such have their solutions incorporated to show the console is being
>> updated.
>> >
>> > For 5.11 - I'm assuming this would be the target for this discussion.
>> :-)
>> >
>> > For this, I'm certainly OK with flipping from the JSP based approach to,
>> > well, anything. If you feel AngularJS/Bootstrap is the best way to
>> go,
>> > I'd certainly support that and be happy to learn a bit to help out.
>> >
>> >
>> > At this point, however, I'm kind of concentrating on what I can do for
>> the
>> > 5.10.0 and 5.9.1 releases. I'd like to do whatever I can to get those
>> out.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:12 AM, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
>> > > using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Daniel Kulp
>> > dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>.
+1 on Dan's roadmap.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Jim Gomes <e....@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for the project roadmap outlined by Dan.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Can I break this down into 3 potential targets? We currently have
> users
> > asking about a possible 5.9.1 release to fix some serious issues there.
> In
> > addition, we have been talking about getting a 5.10 release out that has
> > some of the newer updates.
> >
> > My proposal would be:
> >
> > For 5.9.1 - console pretty much "as is" except the critical fixes.
> > Likely the URL encoding fixes and the OOM fixes.
> >
> > For 5.10.0 - include the other fixes such as the war size reductions and
> > dependency updates, etc.... Go through the various JIRA's that have
> patches
> > and look at them. Nothing earth shattering at this point as I wouldn't
> > want to hold up 5.10, but make sure users that have submitted patches and
> > such have their solutions incorporated to show the console is being
> updated.
> >
> > For 5.11 - I'm assuming this would be the target for this discussion.
> :-)
> >
> > For this, I'm certainly OK with flipping from the JSP based approach to,
> > well, anything. If you feel AngularJS/Bootstrap is the best way to go,
> > I'd certainly support that and be happy to learn a bit to help out.
> >
> >
> > At this point, however, I'm kind of concentrating on what I can do for
> the
> > 5.10.0 and 5.9.1 releases. I'd like to do whatever I can to get those
> out.
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:12 AM, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
> > > using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> > dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> >
> >
>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Jim Gomes <e....@gmail.com>.
+1 for the project roadmap outlined by Dan.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Can I break this down into 3 potential targets? We currently have users
> asking about a possible 5.9.1 release to fix some serious issues there. In
> addition, we have been talking about getting a 5.10 release out that has
> some of the newer updates.
>
> My proposal would be:
>
> For 5.9.1 - console pretty much "as is" except the critical fixes.
> Likely the URL encoding fixes and the OOM fixes.
>
> For 5.10.0 - include the other fixes such as the war size reductions and
> dependency updates, etc.... Go through the various JIRA's that have patches
> and look at them. Nothing earth shattering at this point as I wouldn't
> want to hold up 5.10, but make sure users that have submitted patches and
> such have their solutions incorporated to show the console is being updated.
>
> For 5.11 - I'm assuming this would be the target for this discussion. :-)
>
> For this, I'm certainly OK with flipping from the JSP based approach to,
> well, anything. If you feel AngularJS/Bootstrap is the best way to go,
> I'd certainly support that and be happy to learn a bit to help out.
>
>
> At this point, however, I'm kind of concentrating on what I can do for the
> 5.10.0 and 5.9.1 releases. I'd like to do whatever I can to get those out.
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:12 AM, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
> > using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>
>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
Can I break this down into 3 potential targets? We currently have users asking about a possible 5.9.1 release to fix some serious issues there. In addition, we have been talking about getting a 5.10 release out that has some of the newer updates.
My proposal would be:
For 5.9.1 - console pretty much “as is” except the critical fixes. Likely the URL encoding fixes and the OOM fixes.
For 5.10.0 - include the other fixes such as the war size reductions and dependency updates, etc…. Go through the various JIRA’s that have patches and look at them. Nothing earth shattering at this point as I wouldn’t want to hold up 5.10, but make sure users that have submitted patches and such have their solutions incorporated to show the console is being updated.
For 5.11 - I’m assuming this would be the target for this discussion. :-)
For this, I’m certainly OK with flipping from the JSP based approach to, well, anything. If you feel AngularJS/Bootstrap is the best way to go, I’d certainly support that and be happy to learn a bit to help out.
At this point, however, I’m kind of concentrating on what I can do for the 5.10.0 and 5.9.1 releases. I’d like to do whatever I can to get those out.
Dan
On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:12 AM, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Well, the built-in console needs some love. In order to make it more
"lovable", let's modernize it a bit. No doubt, hawt.io has already
done some of the stuff we're talking about, but AMQ needs to maintain
its own console also. I honestly don't see there being a lot of work
to be done to get the console to a happy state again. I'd say maybe
8-10 hours or so?
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Zakeria Hassan
<za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> I think if we are going to use Angular.js and Bootstrap we might as well
> just use Hawtio because we don't want to repeat the same efforts already
> done by members of this community.
>
> Thanks,
> Zak
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:38 AM, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I just want to hear folks chime in on whether they think this is
>> the right way to go with the code. It definitely needs a "facelift",
>> so that folks can get excited about working on it. What I have done
>> with the "angularization" is to just set up Spring-MVC-based REST
>> services to feed the UI. This wasn't too much of a jump away from
>> what's there, since it already uses Spring. And, for the type of
>> traffic the webconsole should expect, I think Spring-MVC is just fine.
>> Other than that, the site is one main html file with a bunch of
>> partials for the different screens.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Zakeria Hassan
>> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> > I agree with Hadrian, we want everyone's input. Lets keep it in the
>> mailing
>> > list because its easier to reference and get our community input.
>> Anything
>> > we can discuss on IRC can but done on this mailing list.
>> > Totally want everyone's input and I want to work in an open transparent
>> > way. So lets keep this conversation flowing and the ideas pouring.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Zak
>> > @Prospect1010
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:49 AM, James Carman
>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, what I wanted to do was get a feeler for if there are any
>> >> blockers here, before we start doing any work. Let's hear from the
>> >> dev community a bit more before we go too far. I wouldn't want our
>> >> work to be wasted if there were any objections. Anyone?
>> >>
>> >> As Hadrian said in another email, we should definitely try to discuss
>> >> on-list as much as we can. There's nothing wrong with chatting about
>> >> issues we're having and stuff on IRC, but any *decisions* need to be
>> >> made on the mailing list. We have to be open to input from the entire
>> >> community.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Zakeria Hassan
>> >> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi James,
>> >> >
>> >> > We can definitely collaborate and make this web console a much better
>> >> > experience for users. I usually get on IRC after work, it would be
>> great
>> >> to
>> >> > chat with you. I know Angular.js so its great to have someone else
>> that
>> >> > knows it too. Are you online > 7:00pm (EST). Only one thing we need
>> is
>> >> > lots of issues created so in case people ask why. We can point to some
>> >> > existing issues. Anyway we will chat on IRC and come up with a solid
>> >> plan.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Zak
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM, James Carman
>> >> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> That's great, Zakeria! The Angular stuff isn't too hard. Looks like
>> >> >> you've put together a pretty nice looking console. I'm not jazzed
>> >> >> about merely doing an "upgrade" of the tech. I'd like to make the
>> >> >> application work better, too. Although, I guess a good first draft
>> >> >> would be to modernize the existing functionality and then worry about
>> >> >> revamping things to be a bit more robust. WDYT?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Zakeria Hassan
>> >> >> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi James,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my
>> >> repo:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If
>> you
>> >> >> want
>> >> >> > to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > Zak
>> >> >> > @Prospect1010
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
>> >> >> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
>> >> >> >> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Well, I would think first pass, we just need to get the current
functionality working using the "new stack" and then add on from
there.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Zakeria Hassan
<za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In terms of looks I think we have a running example already done in my
> repo. We don't want to only create a console that looks great but rather we
> want to add value (features, UX, etc). Lets get a list of all the problems
> we have in the console here in this discussion and tackle them one by one.
>
> What features that don't exist do we need?
> What problems exist that we need to solve?
> How will this improve the end user experience?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Tracy Snell <ts...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure there's another couple of threads with the Hawtio
>> discussion that you can refer to to come up to speed on that debate :)
>>
>> I don't recall Angular or Bootstrap being a pro or con in that debate.
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I think if we are going to use Angular.js and Bootstrap we might as well
>> > just use Hawtio because we don't want to repeat the same efforts already
>> > done by members of this community.
>>
>>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>.
In terms of looks I think we have a running example already done in my
repo. We don't want to only create a console that looks great but rather we
want to add value (features, UX, etc). Lets get a list of all the problems
we have in the console here in this discussion and tackle them one by one.
What features that don't exist do we need?
What problems exist that we need to solve?
How will this improve the end user experience?
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Tracy Snell <ts...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure there's another couple of threads with the Hawtio
> discussion that you can refer to to come up to speed on that debate :)
>
> I don't recall Angular or Bootstrap being a pro or con in that debate.
>
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think if we are going to use Angular.js and Bootstrap we might as well
> > just use Hawtio because we don't want to repeat the same efforts already
> > done by members of this community.
>
>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Tracy Snell <ts...@gmail.com>.
I’m pretty sure there’s another couple of threads with the Hawtio discussion that you can refer to to come up to speed on that debate :)
I don’t recall Angular or Bootstrap being a pro or con in that debate.
On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think if we are going to use Angular.js and Bootstrap we might as well
> just use Hawtio because we don't want to repeat the same efforts already
> done by members of this community.
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>.
Hi James,
I think if we are going to use Angular.js and Bootstrap we might as well
just use Hawtio because we don't want to repeat the same efforts already
done by members of this community.
Thanks,
Zak
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:38 AM, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> Yeah, I just want to hear folks chime in on whether they think this is
> the right way to go with the code. It definitely needs a "facelift",
> so that folks can get excited about working on it. What I have done
> with the "angularization" is to just set up Spring-MVC-based REST
> services to feed the UI. This wasn't too much of a jump away from
> what's there, since it already uses Spring. And, for the type of
> traffic the webconsole should expect, I think Spring-MVC is just fine.
> Other than that, the site is one main html file with a bunch of
> partials for the different screens.
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Zakeria Hassan
> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > I agree with Hadrian, we want everyone's input. Lets keep it in the
> mailing
> > list because its easier to reference and get our community input.
> Anything
> > we can discuss on IRC can but done on this mailing list.
> > Totally want everyone's input and I want to work in an open transparent
> > way. So lets keep this conversation flowing and the ideas pouring.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zak
> > @Prospect1010
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:49 AM, James Carman
> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Well, what I wanted to do was get a feeler for if there are any
> >> blockers here, before we start doing any work. Let's hear from the
> >> dev community a bit more before we go too far. I wouldn't want our
> >> work to be wasted if there were any objections. Anyone?
> >>
> >> As Hadrian said in another email, we should definitely try to discuss
> >> on-list as much as we can. There's nothing wrong with chatting about
> >> issues we're having and stuff on IRC, but any *decisions* need to be
> >> made on the mailing list. We have to be open to input from the entire
> >> community.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Zakeria Hassan
> >> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi James,
> >> >
> >> > We can definitely collaborate and make this web console a much better
> >> > experience for users. I usually get on IRC after work, it would be
> great
> >> to
> >> > chat with you. I know Angular.js so its great to have someone else
> that
> >> > knows it too. Are you online > 7:00pm (EST). Only one thing we need
> is
> >> > lots of issues created so in case people ask why. We can point to some
> >> > existing issues. Anyway we will chat on IRC and come up with a solid
> >> plan.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Zak
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM, James Carman
> >> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> That's great, Zakeria! The Angular stuff isn't too hard. Looks like
> >> >> you've put together a pretty nice looking console. I'm not jazzed
> >> >> about merely doing an "upgrade" of the tech. I'd like to make the
> >> >> application work better, too. Although, I guess a good first draft
> >> >> would be to modernize the existing functionality and then worry about
> >> >> revamping things to be a bit more robust. WDYT?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Zakeria Hassan
> >> >> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi James,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my
> >> repo:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> > All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If
> you
> >> >> want
> >> >> > to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Zak
> >> >> > @Prospect1010
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
> >> >> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
> >> >> >> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Yeah, I just want to hear folks chime in on whether they think this is
the right way to go with the code. It definitely needs a "facelift",
so that folks can get excited about working on it. What I have done
with the "angularization" is to just set up Spring-MVC-based REST
services to feed the UI. This wasn't too much of a jump away from
what's there, since it already uses Spring. And, for the type of
traffic the webconsole should expect, I think Spring-MVC is just fine.
Other than that, the site is one main html file with a bunch of
partials for the different screens.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Zakeria Hassan
<za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I agree with Hadrian, we want everyone's input. Lets keep it in the mailing
> list because its easier to reference and get our community input. Anything
> we can discuss on IRC can but done on this mailing list.
> Totally want everyone's input and I want to work in an open transparent
> way. So lets keep this conversation flowing and the ideas pouring.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Zak
> @Prospect1010
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:49 AM, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>
>> Well, what I wanted to do was get a feeler for if there are any
>> blockers here, before we start doing any work. Let's hear from the
>> dev community a bit more before we go too far. I wouldn't want our
>> work to be wasted if there were any objections. Anyone?
>>
>> As Hadrian said in another email, we should definitely try to discuss
>> on-list as much as we can. There's nothing wrong with chatting about
>> issues we're having and stuff on IRC, but any *decisions* need to be
>> made on the mailing list. We have to be open to input from the entire
>> community.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Zakeria Hassan
>> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi James,
>> >
>> > We can definitely collaborate and make this web console a much better
>> > experience for users. I usually get on IRC after work, it would be great
>> to
>> > chat with you. I know Angular.js so its great to have someone else that
>> > knows it too. Are you online > 7:00pm (EST). Only one thing we need is
>> > lots of issues created so in case people ask why. We can point to some
>> > existing issues. Anyway we will chat on IRC and come up with a solid
>> plan.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Zak
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM, James Carman
>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> That's great, Zakeria! The Angular stuff isn't too hard. Looks like
>> >> you've put together a pretty nice looking console. I'm not jazzed
>> >> about merely doing an "upgrade" of the tech. I'd like to make the
>> >> application work better, too. Although, I guess a good first draft
>> >> would be to modernize the existing functionality and then worry about
>> >> revamping things to be a bit more robust. WDYT?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Zakeria Hassan
>> >> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi James,
>> >> >
>> >> > I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my
>> repo:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
>> >> >
>> >> > If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
>> >> >
>> >> > All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
>> >> >
>> >> > Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If you
>> >> want
>> >> > to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Zak
>> >> > @Prospect1010
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
>> >> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
>> >> >> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I agree with Hadrian, we want everyone's input. Lets keep it in the mailing
list because its easier to reference and get our community input. Anything
we can discuss on IRC can but done on this mailing list.
Totally want everyone's input and I want to work in an open transparent
way. So lets keep this conversation flowing and the ideas pouring.
Thanks,
Zak
@Prospect1010
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:49 AM, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> Well, what I wanted to do was get a feeler for if there are any
> blockers here, before we start doing any work. Let's hear from the
> dev community a bit more before we go too far. I wouldn't want our
> work to be wasted if there were any objections. Anyone?
>
> As Hadrian said in another email, we should definitely try to discuss
> on-list as much as we can. There's nothing wrong with chatting about
> issues we're having and stuff on IRC, but any *decisions* need to be
> made on the mailing list. We have to be open to input from the entire
> community.
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Zakeria Hassan
> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi James,
> >
> > We can definitely collaborate and make this web console a much better
> > experience for users. I usually get on IRC after work, it would be great
> to
> > chat with you. I know Angular.js so its great to have someone else that
> > knows it too. Are you online > 7:00pm (EST). Only one thing we need is
> > lots of issues created so in case people ask why. We can point to some
> > existing issues. Anyway we will chat on IRC and come up with a solid
> plan.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zak
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM, James Carman
> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> >
> >> That's great, Zakeria! The Angular stuff isn't too hard. Looks like
> >> you've put together a pretty nice looking console. I'm not jazzed
> >> about merely doing an "upgrade" of the tech. I'd like to make the
> >> application work better, too. Although, I guess a good first draft
> >> would be to modernize the existing functionality and then worry about
> >> revamping things to be a bit more robust. WDYT?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Zakeria Hassan
> >> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi James,
> >> >
> >> > I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my
> repo:
> >> >
> >> > https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
> >> >
> >> > If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
> >> >
> >> > All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
> >> >
> >> > Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If you
> >> want
> >> > to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Zak
> >> > @Prospect1010
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
> >> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
> >> >> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
> >> >>
> >>
>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Well, what I wanted to do was get a feeler for if there are any
blockers here, before we start doing any work. Let's hear from the
dev community a bit more before we go too far. I wouldn't want our
work to be wasted if there were any objections. Anyone?
As Hadrian said in another email, we should definitely try to discuss
on-list as much as we can. There's nothing wrong with chatting about
issues we're having and stuff on IRC, but any *decisions* need to be
made on the mailing list. We have to be open to input from the entire
community.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Zakeria Hassan
<za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> We can definitely collaborate and make this web console a much better
> experience for users. I usually get on IRC after work, it would be great to
> chat with you. I know Angular.js so its great to have someone else that
> knows it too. Are you online > 7:00pm (EST). Only one thing we need is
> lots of issues created so in case people ask why. We can point to some
> existing issues. Anyway we will chat on IRC and come up with a solid plan.
>
> Thanks,
> Zak
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>
>> That's great, Zakeria! The Angular stuff isn't too hard. Looks like
>> you've put together a pretty nice looking console. I'm not jazzed
>> about merely doing an "upgrade" of the tech. I'd like to make the
>> application work better, too. Although, I guess a good first draft
>> would be to modernize the existing functionality and then worry about
>> revamping things to be a bit more robust. WDYT?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Zakeria Hassan
>> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi James,
>> >
>> > I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my repo:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
>> >
>> > If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
>> >
>> >
>> http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
>> >
>> > All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
>> >
>> > Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If you
>> want
>> > to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Zak
>> > @Prospect1010
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
>> >> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>> >>
>>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Decisions regarding ASF project should be made on the dev@ mailing list.
James you know that very well. Maybe you can help Zak get a better
understanding of how ASF communities work.
I would suggest posting on the list the relevant part of the irc log, so
that others could comment/pitch in.
Thanks,
Hadrian
On 02/10/2014 10:40 AM, Zakeria Hassan wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> We can definitely collaborate and make this web console a much better
> experience for users. I usually get on IRC after work, it would be great to
> chat with you. I know Angular.js so its great to have someone else that
> knows it too. Are you online > 7:00pm (EST). Only one thing we need is
> lots of issues created so in case people ask why. We can point to some
> existing issues. Anyway we will chat on IRC and come up with a solid plan.
>
> Thanks,
> Zak
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>
>> That's great, Zakeria! The Angular stuff isn't too hard. Looks like
>> you've put together a pretty nice looking console. I'm not jazzed
>> about merely doing an "upgrade" of the tech. I'd like to make the
>> application work better, too. Although, I guess a good first draft
>> would be to modernize the existing functionality and then worry about
>> revamping things to be a bit more robust. WDYT?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Zakeria Hassan
>> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi James,
>>>
>>> I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my repo:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
>>>
>>> If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
>>>
>>>
>> http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
>>> All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
>>>
>>> Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If you
>> want
>>> to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Zak
>>> @Prospect1010
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
>>> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
>>>> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>>>>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>.
Hi James,
We can definitely collaborate and make this web console a much better
experience for users. I usually get on IRC after work, it would be great to
chat with you. I know Angular.js so its great to have someone else that
knows it too. Are you online > 7:00pm (EST). Only one thing we need is
lots of issues created so in case people ask why. We can point to some
existing issues. Anyway we will chat on IRC and come up with a solid plan.
Thanks,
Zak
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> That's great, Zakeria! The Angular stuff isn't too hard. Looks like
> you've put together a pretty nice looking console. I'm not jazzed
> about merely doing an "upgrade" of the tech. I'd like to make the
> application work better, too. Although, I guess a good first draft
> would be to modernize the existing functionality and then worry about
> revamping things to be a bit more robust. WDYT?
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Zakeria Hassan
> <za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi James,
> >
> > I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my repo:
> >
> > https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
> >
> > If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
> >
> >
> http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
> >
> > All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
> >
> > Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If you
> want
> > to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zak
> > @Prospect1010
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
> >> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
> >>
>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
That's great, Zakeria! The Angular stuff isn't too hard. Looks like
you've put together a pretty nice looking console. I'm not jazzed
about merely doing an "upgrade" of the tech. I'd like to make the
application work better, too. Although, I guess a good first draft
would be to modernize the existing functionality and then worry about
revamping things to be a bit more robust. WDYT?
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Zakeria Hassan
<za...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my repo:
>
> https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
>
> If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
>
> http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
>
> All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
>
> Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If you want
> to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Zak
> @Prospect1010
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
>> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>>
Re: "Upgrading" Web Console to AngularJS/Bootstrap...
Posted by Zakeria Hassan <za...@gmail.com>.
Hi James,
I've already updated the site to use bootstrap if you check out my repo:
https://github.com/zmhassan/activemq.git
If you want you can checkout screen shots on my blog:
http://bzcareermongodb.blogspot.ca/2014/02/remedy-to-javaoutmemory-when-browsing.html
All that is left is setting up Angular.js ...
Lets tag team and drive some amazing upgrades to this console. If you want
to chat a bit about this via irc just email me.
Thanks,
Zak
@Prospect1010
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
> Does anyone have objections to modernizing the web console a bit,
> using AngularJS and Bootstrap?
>