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Posted to users@cxf.apache.org by robert <ro...@gliesian.com> on 2011/02/01 18:32:52 UTC
WSIF and CXF
Is Apache WSIF dead (in the sense of no longer being supported and
sparsely used)? http://ws.apache.org/wsif/
Reference:
http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42658
If not, does CXF currently support it or has plans to support it?
Thanks!
Re: WSIF and CXF
Posted by Glen Mazza <gm...@talend.com>.
That, or graduate WSIF to a TLP before giving it the heave-ho... :)
Glen
On 01.02.2011 19:42, Benson Margulies wrote:
> That wasn't a binding veto. The real problem is that the attic does
> not accept subprojects, only TLPs. So we kind of ran aground. We need
> to build our own attic, and the amount of volunteer labor available at
> WS is very small.
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Dennis Sosnoski<dm...@sosnoski.com> wrote:
>> I take it back - either this was an invalid veto, or it was missed:
>> http://marc.info/?l=wsif-dev&m=128198507114001&w=2 So it looks like
>> there should have been a resolution to retire WSIF back in August. I
>> haven't seen anything more on this since, but hopefully it's in progress.
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>>
>> On 02/02/2011 01:15 PM, Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
>>> There was an attempt to do this just a few months ago, but it apparently
>>> was vetoed:
>>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.webservices.wsif.devel/550
>>> I don't know the reason behind the veto, nor was there any follow-up
>>> that I've seen.
>>>
>>> - Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/02/2011 12:17 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, it may be time for placing it in Apache Attic.
>>>>
>>>> On 01.02.2011 18:00, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sound like this project page should be better annotated or the
>>>>> project moved to some dormant area of the site...
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary Gregory
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>>>> Rocket Software
>>>>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 • Atlanta, GA 30326 • USA
>>>>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560
>>>>> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com
>>>>> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:dms@sosnoski.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 16:05
>>>>>> To: users@cxf.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: WSIF and CXF
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WSIF was an early attempt to generalize access to web services, at a
>>>>>> time when the standard APIs were working at the DOM level. The web
>>>>>> services world has moved on, though, and WSIF fell by the wayside -
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> been>7 years since the last release, so your chances of doing much
>>>>>> that's useful with it at this point is probably close to nil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis M. Sosnoski
>>>>>> Java SOA and Web Services
>>>>>> Consulting<http://www.sosnoski.com/consult.html>
>>>>>> Axis2/CXF/Metro SOA and Web Services Training
>>>>>> <http://www.sosnoski.com/training.html>
>>>>>> Web Services Jump-Start<http://www.sosnoski.com/jumpstart.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/02/2011 06:32 AM, robert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is Apache WSIF dead (in the sense of no longer being supported and
>>>>>>> sparsely used)? http://ws.apache.org/wsif/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reference:
>>>>>>> http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42658
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If not, does CXF currently support it or has plans to support it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
--
Glen Mazza
Software Engineer, Talend (http://www.talend.com)
blog: http://www.jroller.com/gmazza
Re: WSIF and CXF
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
That wasn't a binding veto. The real problem is that the attic does
not accept subprojects, only TLPs. So we kind of ran aground. We need
to build our own attic, and the amount of volunteer labor available at
WS is very small.
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Dennis Sosnoski <dm...@sosnoski.com> wrote:
> I take it back - either this was an invalid veto, or it was missed:
> http://marc.info/?l=wsif-dev&m=128198507114001&w=2 So it looks like
> there should have been a resolution to retire WSIF back in August. I
> haven't seen anything more on this since, but hopefully it's in progress.
>
> - Dennis
>
>
> On 02/02/2011 01:15 PM, Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
>> There was an attempt to do this just a few months ago, but it apparently
>> was vetoed:
>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.webservices.wsif.devel/550
>> I don't know the reason behind the veto, nor was there any follow-up
>> that I've seen.
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>>
>> On 02/02/2011 12:17 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it may be time for placing it in Apache Attic.
>>>
>>> On 01.02.2011 18:00, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sound like this project page should be better annotated or the
>>>> project moved to some dormant area of the site...
>>>>
>>>> Gary Gregory
>>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>>> Rocket Software
>>>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 • Atlanta, GA 30326 • USA
>>>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560
>>>> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com
>>>> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:dms@sosnoski.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 16:05
>>>>> To: users@cxf.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: WSIF and CXF
>>>>>
>>>>> WSIF was an early attempt to generalize access to web services, at a
>>>>> time when the standard APIs were working at the DOM level. The web
>>>>> services world has moved on, though, and WSIF fell by the wayside -
>>>>> it's
>>>>> been>7 years since the last release, so your chances of doing much
>>>>> that's useful with it at this point is probably close to nil.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis M. Sosnoski
>>>>> Java SOA and Web Services
>>>>> Consulting<http://www.sosnoski.com/consult.html>
>>>>> Axis2/CXF/Metro SOA and Web Services Training
>>>>> <http://www.sosnoski.com/training.html>
>>>>> Web Services Jump-Start<http://www.sosnoski.com/jumpstart.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/02/2011 06:32 AM, robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Apache WSIF dead (in the sense of no longer being supported and
>>>>>> sparsely used)? http://ws.apache.org/wsif/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reference:
>>>>>> http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42658
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If not, does CXF currently support it or has plans to support it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: WSIF and CXF
Posted by Dennis Sosnoski <dm...@sosnoski.com>.
I take it back - either this was an invalid veto, or it was missed:
http://marc.info/?l=wsif-dev&m=128198507114001&w=2 So it looks like
there should have been a resolution to retire WSIF back in August. I
haven't seen anything more on this since, but hopefully it's in progress.
- Dennis
On 02/02/2011 01:15 PM, Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
> There was an attempt to do this just a few months ago, but it apparently
> was vetoed:
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.webservices.wsif.devel/550
> I don't know the reason behind the veto, nor was there any follow-up
> that I've seen.
>
> - Dennis
>
>
> On 02/02/2011 12:17 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>
>> Yes, it may be time for placing it in Apache Attic.
>>
>> On 01.02.2011 18:00, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>
>>> Sound like this project page should be better annotated or the
>>> project moved to some dormant area of the site...
>>>
>>> Gary Gregory
>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>> Rocket Software
>>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 • Atlanta, GA 30326 • USA
>>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560
>>> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com
>>> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:dms@sosnoski.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 16:05
>>>> To: users@cxf.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: WSIF and CXF
>>>>
>>>> WSIF was an early attempt to generalize access to web services, at a
>>>> time when the standard APIs were working at the DOM level. The web
>>>> services world has moved on, though, and WSIF fell by the wayside -
>>>> it's
>>>> been>7 years since the last release, so your chances of doing much
>>>> that's useful with it at this point is probably close to nil.
>>>>
>>>> - Dennis
>>>>
>>>> Dennis M. Sosnoski
>>>> Java SOA and Web Services
>>>> Consulting<http://www.sosnoski.com/consult.html>
>>>> Axis2/CXF/Metro SOA and Web Services Training
>>>> <http://www.sosnoski.com/training.html>
>>>> Web Services Jump-Start<http://www.sosnoski.com/jumpstart.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/02/2011 06:32 AM, robert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is Apache WSIF dead (in the sense of no longer being supported and
>>>>> sparsely used)? http://ws.apache.org/wsif/
>>>>>
>>>>> Reference:
>>>>> http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42658
>>>>>
>>>>> If not, does CXF currently support it or has plans to support it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: WSIF and CXF
Posted by Dennis Sosnoski <dm...@sosnoski.com>.
There was an attempt to do this just a few months ago, but it apparently
was vetoed:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.webservices.wsif.devel/550
I don't know the reason behind the veto, nor was there any follow-up
that I've seen.
- Dennis
On 02/02/2011 12:17 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
> Yes, it may be time for placing it in Apache Attic.
>
> On 01.02.2011 18:00, Gary Gregory wrote:
>> Sound like this project page should be better annotated or the
>> project moved to some dormant area of the site...
>>
>> Gary Gregory
>> Senior Software Engineer
>> Rocket Software
>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 • Atlanta, GA 30326 • USA
>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560
>> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com
>> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:dms@sosnoski.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 16:05
>>> To: users@cxf.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: WSIF and CXF
>>>
>>> WSIF was an early attempt to generalize access to web services, at a
>>> time when the standard APIs were working at the DOM level. The web
>>> services world has moved on, though, and WSIF fell by the wayside -
>>> it's
>>> been>7 years since the last release, so your chances of doing much
>>> that's useful with it at this point is probably close to nil.
>>>
>>> - Dennis
>>>
>>> Dennis M. Sosnoski
>>> Java SOA and Web Services
>>> Consulting<http://www.sosnoski.com/consult.html>
>>> Axis2/CXF/Metro SOA and Web Services Training
>>> <http://www.sosnoski.com/training.html>
>>> Web Services Jump-Start<http://www.sosnoski.com/jumpstart.html>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/02/2011 06:32 AM, robert wrote:
>>>> Is Apache WSIF dead (in the sense of no longer being supported and
>>>> sparsely used)? http://ws.apache.org/wsif/
>>>>
>>>> Reference:
>>>> http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42658
>>>>
>>>> If not, does CXF currently support it or has plans to support it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>
>
Re: WSIF and CXF
Posted by Glen Mazza <gm...@talend.com>.
Yes, it may be time for placing it in Apache Attic.
On 01.02.2011 18:00, Gary Gregory wrote:
> Sound like this project page should be better annotated or the project moved to some dormant area of the site...
>
> Gary Gregory
> Senior Software Engineer
> Rocket Software
> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 • Atlanta, GA 30326 • USA
> Tel: +1.404.760.1560
> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com
> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:dms@sosnoski.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 16:05
>> To: users@cxf.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: WSIF and CXF
>>
>> WSIF was an early attempt to generalize access to web services, at a
>> time when the standard APIs were working at the DOM level. The web
>> services world has moved on, though, and WSIF fell by the wayside - it's
>> been>7 years since the last release, so your chances of doing much
>> that's useful with it at this point is probably close to nil.
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>> Dennis M. Sosnoski
>> Java SOA and Web Services Consulting<http://www.sosnoski.com/consult.html>
>> Axis2/CXF/Metro SOA and Web Services Training
>> <http://www.sosnoski.com/training.html>
>> Web Services Jump-Start<http://www.sosnoski.com/jumpstart.html>
>>
>>
>> On 02/02/2011 06:32 AM, robert wrote:
>>> Is Apache WSIF dead (in the sense of no longer being supported and
>>> sparsely used)? http://ws.apache.org/wsif/
>>>
>>> Reference:
>>> http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42658
>>>
>>> If not, does CXF currently support it or has plans to support it?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
--
Glen Mazza
Software Engineer, Talend (http://www.talend.com)
blog: http://www.jroller.com/gmazza
RE: WSIF and CXF
Posted by Gary Gregory <GG...@seagullsoftware.com>.
Sound like this project page should be better annotated or the project moved to some dormant area of the site...
Gary Gregory
Senior Software Engineer
Rocket Software
3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 • Atlanta, GA 30326 • USA
Tel: +1.404.760.1560
Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com
Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:dms@sosnoski.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 16:05
> To: users@cxf.apache.org
> Subject: Re: WSIF and CXF
>
> WSIF was an early attempt to generalize access to web services, at a
> time when the standard APIs were working at the DOM level. The web
> services world has moved on, though, and WSIF fell by the wayside - it's
> been >7 years since the last release, so your chances of doing much
> that's useful with it at this point is probably close to nil.
>
> - Dennis
>
> Dennis M. Sosnoski
> Java SOA and Web Services Consulting <http://www.sosnoski.com/consult.html>
> Axis2/CXF/Metro SOA and Web Services Training
> <http://www.sosnoski.com/training.html>
> Web Services Jump-Start <http://www.sosnoski.com/jumpstart.html>
>
>
> On 02/02/2011 06:32 AM, robert wrote:
> > Is Apache WSIF dead (in the sense of no longer being supported and
> > sparsely used)? http://ws.apache.org/wsif/
> >
> > Reference:
> > http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42658
> >
> > If not, does CXF currently support it or has plans to support it?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
Re: WSIF and CXF
Posted by Dennis Sosnoski <dm...@sosnoski.com>.
WSIF was an early attempt to generalize access to web services, at a
time when the standard APIs were working at the DOM level. The web
services world has moved on, though, and WSIF fell by the wayside - it's
been >7 years since the last release, so your chances of doing much
that's useful with it at this point is probably close to nil.
- Dennis
Dennis M. Sosnoski
Java SOA and Web Services Consulting <http://www.sosnoski.com/consult.html>
Axis2/CXF/Metro SOA and Web Services Training
<http://www.sosnoski.com/training.html>
Web Services Jump-Start <http://www.sosnoski.com/jumpstart.html>
On 02/02/2011 06:32 AM, robert wrote:
> Is Apache WSIF dead (in the sense of no longer being supported and
> sparsely used)? http://ws.apache.org/wsif/
>
> Reference:
> http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42658
>
> If not, does CXF currently support it or has plans to support it?
>
> Thanks!
>