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Cluster Membership not picking up ttl setting

Hello All,

I actually sent this yesterday, but never saw it show up in the archive or 
in my inbox so trying again.  Sorry if y'all are getting this twice.

I'm having a problem setting up clustering in Tomcat 6.0 on RedHat ES 4. 
I'm hoping someone can help me with this.  I'm using a very vanilla 
multicast clustering implementation.  The problem is that the 2 machines I 
want to cluster are on different subnets with 4 hops between them. Because 
of this I need to up the Membership multicast ttl.  Unfortunately for some 
reason it doesn't appear that setting the ttl is having any effect for me. 
 I have verified that I can change the multicast address, port, and 
frequency and those settings seem to work.  It is only the ttl that 
doesn't seem to change. (I've reverted all of those changes back to 
default now).

Here is my clustering set up from server.xml

      <Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"
               channelSendOptions="8">

        <Manager className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.DeltaManager"
                 expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
                 notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>

        <Channel 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.GroupChannel">
          <Membership 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastService"
                      address="228.0.0.4"
                      port="45564"
                      ttl="15"
                      frequency="500"
                      dropTime="3000"/>
          <Sender 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitter">
            <Transport 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.PooledParallelSender"/>
          </Sender>
          <Receiver 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
                    address="auto"
                    port="4000"
                    autoBind="100"
                    selectorTimeout="5000"
                    maxThreads="6"/>

          <Interceptor 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector"/>
          <Interceptor 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.MessageDispatch15Interceptor"/>
        </Channel>

        <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.ReplicationValve"
               filter=""/>
        <Valve 
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteBinderValve"/>

        <ClusterListener 
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteSessionIDBinderListener"/>
        <ClusterListener 
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.ClusterSessionListener"/>
      </Cluster>

As you can see I've changed the Membership ttl to 15.  However, when I 
start up apache and run a tcpdump it appears that the TTL is still set to 
1.  Our network admins have also verified from their end that it appears 
the ttl on the multicast traffic is 1.

[ root on godofwar ] tcpdump host 228.0.0.4 -v
tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 
bytes
17:32:45.852847 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl   1, id 63038, offset 0, flags [none], 
proto 2, length: 28) mp3-1n14-c1-e-gw-vlan-1329.natinst.com > 
reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com: igmp query v2 [max 
resp time 10] [gaddr reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com]
17:32:50.560751 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
2, length: 32, optlength: 4 ( RA )) godofwar.natinst.com > 
reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com: igmp v2 report 
reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com
17:32:51.583260 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
17:32:51.585935 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
17:32:52.087227 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
17:32:52.589311 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
17:32:53.091522 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69

 Does anybody have any ideas on why this is? 

Thanks in advance

~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
Mark Osborne
Web Systems Engineer
mark.osborne@ni.com
(512) 683-5019
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Re: Cluster Membership not picking up ttl setting

Posted by Mark Osborne <Ma...@ni.com>.
Filip . . . you are most definitely the man.  That solved my problem.  I 
Added -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to the start options in catalina.sh 
and now my servers are communicating beautifully.  Thanks a million.

~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
Mark Osborne
Web Systems Engineer
mark.osborne@ni.com
(512) 683-5019
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~



Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com> 
02/08/2008 11:47 AM
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running your config, the print out is

Feb 8, 2008 10:13:51 AM 
org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl setupSocket
INFO: Setting cluster mcast TTL to 15

and that executes the code
        if ( mcastTTL >= 0 ) {
            if(log.isInfoEnabled())
                log.info("Setting cluster mcast TTL to " + mcastTTL);
            socket.setTimeToLive(mcastTTL);
        }

which is this method
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/net/MulticastSocket.html#setTimeToLive(int)


then I capture this in wireshark (two systems running

WINDOWS
Frame 1 (111 bytes on wire, 111 bytes captured)
Ethernet II, Src: Dell_08:6c:61 (00:15:c5:08:6c:61), Dst: 
01:00:5e:00:00:04 (01:00:5e:00:00:04)
Internet Protocol, Src: 192.168.3.102 (192.168.3.102), Dst: 228.0.0.4 
(228.0.0.4)
    Version: 4
    Header length: 20 bytes
    Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00)
    Total Length: 97
    Identification: 0x6662 (26210)
    Flags: 0x00
    Fragment offset: 0
    Time to live: 15
    Protocol: UDP (0x11)
    Header checksum: 0x9d17 [correct]
    Source: 192.168.3.102 (192.168.3.102)
    Destination: 228.0.0.4 (228.0.0.4)

all good, TTL is 15

LINUX-FEDORA 6
No.     Time        Source                Destination           Protocol 
Info
      2 0.229936    192.168.3.111         228.0.0.4             UDP 
Source port: 45564  Destination port: 45564
Frame 2 (111 bytes on wire, 111 bytes captured)
Ethernet II, Src: IntelCor_73:41:5a (00:13:20:73:41:5a), Dst: 
01:00:5e:00:00:04 (01:00:5e:00:00:04)
Internet Protocol, Src: 192.168.3.111 (192.168.3.111), Dst: 228.0.0.4 
(228.0.0.4)
    Version: 4
    Header length: 20 bytes
    Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00)
    Total Length: 97
    Identification: 0x0000 (0)
    Flags: 0x04 (Don't Fragment)
    Fragment offset: 0
    Time to live: 1
    Protocol: UDP (0x11)
    Header checksum: 0xd170 [correct]
    Source: 192.168.3.111 (192.168.3.111)
    Destination: 228.0.0.4 (228.0.0.4)

not good at all, TTL is 1 here, even though the Java code set it to 15

so I googled a little bit, the bug is either in the JVM or on linux, 
most likely linux.
to solve this problem add

-Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true

to your startup script. and when I did that I got

Frame 1 (111 bytes on wire, 111 bytes captured)
Ethernet II, Src: IntelCor_73:41:5a (00:13:20:73:41:5a), Dst: 
01:00:5e:00:00:04 (01:00:5e:00:00:04)
Internet Protocol, Src: 192.168.3.111 (192.168.3.111), Dst: 228.0.0.4 
(228.0.0.4)
    Version: 4
    Header length: 20 bytes
    Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00)
    Total Length: 97
    Identification: 0x0000 (0)
    Flags: 0x04 (Don't Fragment)
    Fragment offset: 0
    Time to live: 15
    Protocol: UDP (0x11)
    Header checksum: 0xc370 [correct]
    Source: 192.168.3.111 (192.168.3.111)
    Destination: 228.0.0.4 (228.0.0.4)

and all is good

Filip

Mark Osborne wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I actually sent this yesterday, but never saw it show up in the archive 
or 
> in my inbox so trying again.  Sorry if y'all are getting this twice.
>
> I'm having a problem setting up clustering in Tomcat 6.0 on RedHat ES 4. 

> I'm hoping someone can help me with this.  I'm using a very vanilla 
> multicast clustering implementation.  The problem is that the 2 machines 
I 
> want to cluster are on different subnets with 4 hops between them. 
Because 
> of this I need to up the Membership multicast ttl.  Unfortunately for 
some 
> reason it doesn't appear that setting the ttl is having any effect for 
me. 
>  I have verified that I can change the multicast address, port, and 
> frequency and those settings seem to work.  It is only the ttl that 
> doesn't seem to change. (I've reverted all of those changes back to 
> default now).
>
> Here is my clustering set up from server.xml
>
>       <Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"
>                channelSendOptions="8">
>
>         <Manager className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.DeltaManager"
>                  expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
>                  notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>
>
>         <Channel 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.GroupChannel">
>           <Membership 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastService"
>                       address="228.0.0.4"
>                       port="45564"
>                       ttl="15"
>                       frequency="500"
>                       dropTime="3000"/>
>           <Sender 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitter">
>             <Transport 
> 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.PooledParallelSender"/>
>           </Sender>
>           <Receiver 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
>                     address="auto"
>                     port="4000"
>                     autoBind="100"
>                     selectorTimeout="5000"
>                     maxThreads="6"/>
>
>           <Interceptor 
> 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector"/>
>           <Interceptor 
> 
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.MessageDispatch15Interceptor"/>
>         </Channel>
>
>         <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.ReplicationValve"
>                filter=""/>
>         <Valve 
> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteBinderValve"/>
>
>         <ClusterListener 
> 
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteSessionIDBinderListener"/>
>         <ClusterListener 
> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.ClusterSessionListener"/>
>       </Cluster>
>
> As you can see I've changed the Membership ttl to 15.  However, when I 
> start up apache and run a tcpdump it appears that the TTL is still set 
to 
> 1.  Our network admins have also verified from their end that it appears 

> the ttl on the multicast traffic is 1.
>
> [ root on godofwar ] tcpdump host 228.0.0.4 -v
> tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 

> bytes
> 17:32:45.852847 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl   1, id 63038, offset 0, flags [none], 

> proto 2, length: 28) mp3-1n14-c1-e-gw-vlan-1329.natinst.com > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com: igmp query v2 [max 
> resp time 10] [gaddr reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com]
> 17:32:50.560751 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 

> 2, length: 32, optlength: 4 ( RA )) godofwar.natinst.com > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com: igmp v2 report 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com
> 17:32:51.583260 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
> 17:32:51.585935 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
> 17:32:52.087227 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
> 17:32:52.589311 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
> 17:32:53.091522 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
>
>  Does anybody have any ideas on why this is? 
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
> Mark Osborne
> Web Systems Engineer
> mark.osborne@ni.com
> (512) 683-5019
> ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1263 - Release Date: 
2/6/2008 8:14 PM
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Re: Cluster Membership not picking up ttl setting

Posted by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com>.
running your config, the print out is

Feb 8, 2008 10:13:51 AM 
org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl setupSocket
INFO: Setting cluster mcast TTL to 15

and that executes the code
        if ( mcastTTL >= 0 ) {
            if(log.isInfoEnabled())
                log.info("Setting cluster mcast TTL to " + mcastTTL);
            socket.setTimeToLive(mcastTTL);
        }

which is this method
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/net/MulticastSocket.html#setTimeToLive(int)

then I capture this in wireshark (two systems running

WINDOWS
Frame 1 (111 bytes on wire, 111 bytes captured)
Ethernet II, Src: Dell_08:6c:61 (00:15:c5:08:6c:61), Dst: 
01:00:5e:00:00:04 (01:00:5e:00:00:04)
Internet Protocol, Src: 192.168.3.102 (192.168.3.102), Dst: 228.0.0.4 
(228.0.0.4)
    Version: 4
    Header length: 20 bytes
    Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00)
    Total Length: 97
    Identification: 0x6662 (26210)
    Flags: 0x00
    Fragment offset: 0
    Time to live: 15
    Protocol: UDP (0x11)
    Header checksum: 0x9d17 [correct]
    Source: 192.168.3.102 (192.168.3.102)
    Destination: 228.0.0.4 (228.0.0.4)

all good, TTL is 15

LINUX-FEDORA 6
No.     Time        Source                Destination           Protocol 
Info
      2 0.229936    192.168.3.111         228.0.0.4             UDP      
Source port: 45564  Destination port: 45564
Frame 2 (111 bytes on wire, 111 bytes captured)
Ethernet II, Src: IntelCor_73:41:5a (00:13:20:73:41:5a), Dst: 
01:00:5e:00:00:04 (01:00:5e:00:00:04)
Internet Protocol, Src: 192.168.3.111 (192.168.3.111), Dst: 228.0.0.4 
(228.0.0.4)
    Version: 4
    Header length: 20 bytes
    Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00)
    Total Length: 97
    Identification: 0x0000 (0)
    Flags: 0x04 (Don't Fragment)
    Fragment offset: 0
    Time to live: 1
    Protocol: UDP (0x11)
    Header checksum: 0xd170 [correct]
    Source: 192.168.3.111 (192.168.3.111)
    Destination: 228.0.0.4 (228.0.0.4)

not good at all, TTL is 1 here, even though the Java code set it to 15

so I googled a little bit, the bug is either in the JVM or on linux, 
most likely linux.
to solve this problem add

-Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true

to your startup script. and when I did that I got

Frame 1 (111 bytes on wire, 111 bytes captured)
Ethernet II, Src: IntelCor_73:41:5a (00:13:20:73:41:5a), Dst: 
01:00:5e:00:00:04 (01:00:5e:00:00:04)
Internet Protocol, Src: 192.168.3.111 (192.168.3.111), Dst: 228.0.0.4 
(228.0.0.4)
    Version: 4
    Header length: 20 bytes
    Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00)
    Total Length: 97
    Identification: 0x0000 (0)
    Flags: 0x04 (Don't Fragment)
    Fragment offset: 0
    Time to live: 15
    Protocol: UDP (0x11)
    Header checksum: 0xc370 [correct]
    Source: 192.168.3.111 (192.168.3.111)
    Destination: 228.0.0.4 (228.0.0.4)

and all is good

Filip

Mark Osborne wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I actually sent this yesterday, but never saw it show up in the archive or 
> in my inbox so trying again.  Sorry if y'all are getting this twice.
>
> I'm having a problem setting up clustering in Tomcat 6.0 on RedHat ES 4. 
> I'm hoping someone can help me with this.  I'm using a very vanilla 
> multicast clustering implementation.  The problem is that the 2 machines I 
> want to cluster are on different subnets with 4 hops between them. Because 
> of this I need to up the Membership multicast ttl.  Unfortunately for some 
> reason it doesn't appear that setting the ttl is having any effect for me. 
>  I have verified that I can change the multicast address, port, and 
> frequency and those settings seem to work.  It is only the ttl that 
> doesn't seem to change. (I've reverted all of those changes back to 
> default now).
>
> Here is my clustering set up from server.xml
>
>       <Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"
>                channelSendOptions="8">
>
>         <Manager className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.DeltaManager"
>                  expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
>                  notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>
>
>         <Channel 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.GroupChannel">
>           <Membership 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastService"
>                       address="228.0.0.4"
>                       port="45564"
>                       ttl="15"
>                       frequency="500"
>                       dropTime="3000"/>
>           <Sender 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitter">
>             <Transport 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.PooledParallelSender"/>
>           </Sender>
>           <Receiver 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
>                     address="auto"
>                     port="4000"
>                     autoBind="100"
>                     selectorTimeout="5000"
>                     maxThreads="6"/>
>
>           <Interceptor 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector"/>
>           <Interceptor 
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.MessageDispatch15Interceptor"/>
>         </Channel>
>
>         <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.ReplicationValve"
>                filter=""/>
>         <Valve 
> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteBinderValve"/>
>
>         <ClusterListener 
> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteSessionIDBinderListener"/>
>         <ClusterListener 
> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.ClusterSessionListener"/>
>       </Cluster>
>
> As you can see I've changed the Membership ttl to 15.  However, when I 
> start up apache and run a tcpdump it appears that the TTL is still set to 
> 1.  Our network admins have also verified from their end that it appears 
> the ttl on the multicast traffic is 1.
>
> [ root on godofwar ] tcpdump host 228.0.0.4 -v
> tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 
> bytes
> 17:32:45.852847 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl   1, id 63038, offset 0, flags [none], 
> proto 2, length: 28) mp3-1n14-c1-e-gw-vlan-1329.natinst.com > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com: igmp query v2 [max 
> resp time 10] [gaddr reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com]
> 17:32:50.560751 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 2, length: 32, optlength: 4 ( RA )) godofwar.natinst.com > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com: igmp v2 report 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com
> 17:32:51.583260 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
> 17:32:51.585935 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
> 17:32:52.087227 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
> 17:32:52.589311 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
> 17:32:53.091522 IP (tos 0x0, ttl   1, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto 
> 17, length: 97) godofwar.natinst.com.45564 > 
> reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com.45564: UDP, length 69
>
>  Does anybody have any ideas on why this is? 
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
> Mark Osborne
> Web Systems Engineer
> mark.osborne@ni.com
> (512) 683-5019
> ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1263 - Release Date: 2/6/2008 8:14 PM
>   


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