RE: [Vote/Action plan/Feedback] Cactus2

[Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Lenz [mailto:cmlenz@gmx.de]
> Sent: 27 December 2003 13:47
> To: Cactus Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Vote/Action plan/Feedback] Cactus2
> 
> Hi Vincent!
> 
> Am 24.12.2003 um 12:21 schrieb Vincent Massol:
> > Hi cactus committers,
> >
> > As every day goes by, I am more and more excited about Cactus v2
(see
> > http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/vmassol/archives/
> > 000520_cactus_v2_archi
> > tecture_proposal.html). I'd like to start pumping some cactus v2
code.
> >
> > Before going on, I'd like to know what you think about Cactus v2 and
to
> > decide on how we progress. I believe we have several options:
> >
> > 1/ create a jakarta-cactus/sandbox/cactus2 directory and write
cactus
> > v2
> > code in there
> > 2/ request the creation of a jakarta-cactus2 CVS module (It will
still
> > be under the umbrella of the Cactus project - it's not the creation
of
> > a
> > new project).
> >
> > I personally much prefer solution 2/ as it is cleaner (and it works
> > better with Eclipse projects too).
> 
> I don't see the advantage of a separate CVS module at this stage. I'd
> much prefer the code being bootstrapped in a scratchpad area of our
> current CVS module. When the code is working and we (the Cactus
> community) agree that the proposed architecture is the way to go for
> V2, a fresh CVS module would be nice.
> 
> -1 to a jakarta-cactus2 CVS module at this point in time.
> +1 to jakarta-cactus/scratchpad/cactus2

ok done
(http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-cactus/scratchpad/cactus2/)

> 
> When the new code is ready to be promoted out of the scratchpad, we
> might also want to consider starting the new repository in SVN.
>   <http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/?root=Apache-SVN>

good idea. I'd love to try SVN...

> 
> > We have also the option to request the creation of a
> > cactus2-dev@jakarta.apache.org mailing list. If not, then all
traffic
> > will go to the existing cactus-dev ML. I also prefer to request the
> > creation of such a list.
> 
> Strong -1 against a new mailing list. Really, our current dev list is
> rather low-traffic, we can definitely handle any extra traffic caused
> by the new aspect-based cactus. On the negative side, a new mailing
> list effectively splits the community, and may raise oversight
> concerns.
> 
> Just keep everything on this mailing-list, I'm sure everyone is
> interested (I am, at least) :-)

cool. I hope that we'll get some feedback now that the architecture and
code are open to everyone!

Please have architecture discussions on the list and/or on wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-cactus/Cactus2Proposal

> 
> > I'm also curious to know how many of you are interested in
> > participating
> > to Cactus 2 (or is it too early at this stage for you to know)? I've
> > been talking to Jonas Boner (AspectWerkz author) and Chad Woolley
> > (VirtualMock author) and I'd like to invite them to participate to
the
> > Cactus2 project if they're interested (it will be easier to do if we
> > have separate jakarta-cactus2 CVS module I think).
> >
> > Anyway, I'm interested in any feedback you have!
> >
> > Please provide feedback on the proposed Cactus2 architecture. I'd
like
> > to put this doc in the new cactus2 CVS location so that everyone can
> > help and it'll be easier to follow changes to it.
> 
> I'm very interested, but not sure I can be of much help. Besides time
> constraints, I'm also (still!) new to aspect-oriented programming. The
> document you wrote up definitely sounds cool, though.
> 
> For documentation, I'd suggest we start in the Wiki (wiki.apache.org,
> the new, moin-moin based one). A Wiki is probably a better fit for
> documenting ideas that are still in a rather early stage.

Done: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-cactus/Cactus2Proposal

Thanks
-Vincent


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