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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> on 2007/10/03 19:36:37 UTC
RAT^H^H^H Proposal
i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i
thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the
way: the name.
i quite like the name RAT since it's a play on words a Release Audit
Tool which rats on releases. (i was also born in the year of the rat.)
so, i expect people to find a thousand good reasons why it shouldn't
be used.
to get you all started, here are some links:
http://www.cv.tu-berlin.de/rat/license.php
http://www.blackrat.biz/
http://www.frtr.gov/decisionsupport/DST_Tools/RAT.htm
http://epa.instepsoftware.com/rat/
http://wiki.wwiionline.com/index.php/Cornered_Rat_Software
http://neonrat.com/
yes, lots of people use rat in relation to software
since RAT is so widely used, the name of the google project is arat.
i'm not sure why but the project is #3 at google and #2 at yahoo. so
aRAT is more plausable. there seems to be a place called arat in the
US and it seems to be a sur- and first-name. these probably weight
against this option.
opinions?
- robert
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Nothing wrong with a Rat as an apache project.
Craig
On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i
> thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the
> way: the name.
>
> i quite like the name RAT since it's a play on words a Release Audit
> Tool which rats on releases. (i was also born in the year of the rat.)
> so, i expect people to find a thousand good reasons why it shouldn't
> be used.
>
> to get you all started, here are some links:
>
> http://www.cv.tu-berlin.de/rat/license.php
> http://www.blackrat.biz/
> http://www.frtr.gov/decisionsupport/DST_Tools/RAT.htm
> http://epa.instepsoftware.com/rat/
> http://wiki.wwiionline.com/index.php/Cornered_Rat_Software
> http://neonrat.com/
>
> yes, lots of people use rat in relation to software
>
> since RAT is so widely used, the name of the google project is arat.
> i'm not sure why but the project is #3 at google and #2 at yahoo. so
> aRAT is more plausable. there seems to be a place called arat in the
> US and it seems to be a sur- and first-name. these probably weight
> against this option.
>
> opinions?
>
> - robert
>
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>.
On Thursday 04 October 2007 05:55, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On 10/3/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...i quite like the name RAT...
>
> +1, RAT rocks!
Rob and the Rocking Rats
+1
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On 10/3/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...i quite like the name RAT...
+1, RAT rocks!
-Bertrand
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
On 10/3/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i
> thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the
> way: the name.
>
> i quite like the name RAT since it's a play on words a Release Audit
> Tool which rats on releases. (i was also born in the year of the rat.)
> so, i expect people to find a thousand good reasons why it shouldn't
> be used.
Au contraire. I like "RAT". I read it as short for "ratification".
And we are having a software zoo here already anyway.
Bernd
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>.
Am Mittwoch, den 03.10.2007, 18:36 +0100 schrieb Robert Burrell Donkin:
> i quite like the name RAT since it's a play on words a Release Audit
> Tool which rats on releases. (i was also born in the year of the rat.)
> so, i expect people to find a thousand good reasons why it shouldn't
> be used.
I kind of like the name as it is. And yes, there might be collisions,
and then I sort of get a connotation to RAD.
Coming from aRAT the name "Ararat" comes to mind. This is the name of
the mountain where according to the scripture Noah landed after the
flood...
BTW: This is a great tool ! Thanks for it.
Regards
Felix
>
> to get you all started, here are some links:
>
> http://www.cv.tu-berlin.de/rat/license.php
> http://www.blackrat.biz/
> http://www.frtr.gov/decisionsupport/DST_Tools/RAT.htm
> http://epa.instepsoftware.com/rat/
> http://wiki.wwiionline.com/index.php/Cornered_Rat_Software
> http://neonrat.com/
>
> yes, lots of people use rat in relation to software
>
> since RAT is so widely used, the name of the google project is arat.
> i'm not sure why but the project is #3 at google and #2 at yahoo. so
> aRAT is more plausable. there seems to be a place called arat in the
> US and it seems to be a sur- and first-name. these probably weight
> against this option.
>
> opinions?
>
> - robert
>
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
I like the fact that a rat smells disaster a mile away (it is usually
the first to jump ship).
+1 for incubating the rat.
Martijn
On 10/3/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i
> thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the
> way: the name.
>
> i quite like the name RAT since it's a play on words a Release Audit
> Tool which rats on releases. (i was also born in the year of the rat.)
> so, i expect people to find a thousand good reasons why it shouldn't
> be used.
>
> to get you all started, here are some links:
>
> http://www.cv.tu-berlin.de/rat/license.php
> http://www.blackrat.biz/
> http://www.frtr.gov/decisionsupport/DST_Tools/RAT.htm
> http://epa.instepsoftware.com/rat/
> http://wiki.wwiionline.com/index.php/Cornered_Rat_Software
> http://neonrat.com/
>
> yes, lots of people use rat in relation to software
>
> since RAT is so widely used, the name of the google project is arat.
> i'm not sure why but the project is #3 at google and #2 at yahoo. so
> aRAT is more plausable. there seems to be a place called arat in the
> US and it seems to be a sur- and first-name. these probably weight
> against this option.
>
> opinions?
>
> - robert
>
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On 10/3/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> Yoav Shapira wrote:
> > On 10/3/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i
> >> thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the
> >> way: the name.
> >
> > I think RAT's a great name, keep it.
>
+1 to keep the RAT name. and Thanks for making such a helpful tool.
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Apache Tuscany Committer
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http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Yoav Shapira wrote:
> On 10/3/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i
>> thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the
>> way: the name.
>
> I think RAT's a great name, keep it.
And you are all set when O'Reilly publishes your book!
Yes - keep it :)
Bill
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Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal
Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
On 10/3/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i
> thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the
> way: the name.
I think RAT's a great name, keep it.
Yoav
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