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Posted to community@apache.org by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org> on 2003/01/09 22:51:54 UTC

wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 01:22:02PM -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > Because wiki's tend to fill with content rapdily, once you
> > > use them for a little while you are pretty much locked in.
> 
> > Counterpoint?
> 
> Personally, I'm getting mileage out of UseModWiki, despite its issues.  I
> wouldn't want to have to move every page in the Wiki, but I could cut &
> paste the content for our section if I didn't have a migration tool.  At the
> moment, the content volume might not warrant a tool, and if the content
> volume did, it could certainly be written.

Migrating the latest pages will be easy. I know enough Perl to do that.
Migrating history would be tougher, but should still be doable. (I'd dump it
all out and write a Python script to load it into SVN via the language
bindings to the svn repository)

So, no... *if* we migrate to SubWiki or some other Wiki, then we can get the
data out of UseModWiki.

Cheers,
-g

-- 
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Martin van den Bemt wrote:

>>ROFLMAO!!!  :-D
>>
> 
> 
> I cannot make anything of this.. Please help me :)

Rolling On the Floor Laughing My *** Off.

</Steven>
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RE: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Martin van den Bemt wrote:

> 
> > 
> > ROFLMAO!!!  :-D
> > 
> 
> I cannot make anything of this.. Please help me :)
> Nice for a wiki page or something :)

AcronymFinder is our friend:

http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=ROFLMAO&Find=Find


Re: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <je...@apache.org>.
--On Friday, January 10, 2003 6:44 AM -0800 Aaron Bannert 
<aa...@clove.org> wrote:

> I got it from fink, which gets it from this URL (part of netbsd?)
> http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/basesrc/games/wtf/
> wtf?rev=%v&content-type=text/plain

I tried to install it last night from fink and figured out that that
URL is wrong.  It should be:

http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/games/wtf/wtf?rev=
HEAD

You also need the acronyms file from:

http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/share/misc/acronym
s?rev=HEAD

NetBSD's CVSWeb is *really* slow.  -- justin

Re: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by Aaron Bannert <aa...@clove.org>.
I got it from fink, which gets it from this URL (part of netbsd?)
http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/basesrc/games/wtf/ 
wtf?rev=%v&content-type=text/plain

-aaron


On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 04:15  AM, Ben Laurie wrote:

> Aaron Bannert wrote:
>> aaron@gandalf% wtf roflmao
>> ROFLMAO: rolling on floor laughing my ass off
>> (wtf is a cool utility)
>
> I like - where does it come from?


Re: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>.
Aaron Bannert wrote:
> aaron@gandalf% wtf roflmao
> ROFLMAO: rolling on floor laughing my ass off
> 
> (wtf is a cool utility)

I like - where does it come from?

Cheers,

Ben.

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Re: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by Aaron Bannert <aa...@clove.org>.
aaron@gandalf% wtf roflmao
ROFLMAO: rolling on floor laughing my ass off

(wtf is a cool utility)

-aaron


On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 02:58  PM, Martin van den Bemt wrote:

>
>>
>> ROFLMAO!!!  :-D
>>
>
> I cannot make anything of this.. Please help me :)
> Nice for a wiki page or something :)


RE: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ma...@mvdb.net>.
> 
> ROFLMAO!!!  :-D
> 

I cannot make anything of this.. Please help me :)
Nice for a wiki page or something :)

Mvgr,
Martin

RE: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> If SubWiki is used any time soon, dumping the history seems reasonable.  
> Finally, my chance to rewrite history .... ;)

ROFLMAO!!!  :-D

	--- Noel

RE: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> Greg Stein wrote (technical details omitted):
> > *if* we migrate to SubWiki or some other Wiki, then we can get the
> > data out of UseModWiki.
> 
> Sounds like your approach follows the truism that in the worst case any open
> source code that can read its own data can be instrumented to become its own
> migration tool.
> 
> What would you guess is the relative effort to preserve the history?  I'm
> just wondering if the history value at the cut-over point will be worth the
> incremental effort, unless you want to do it anyway as a proof-of-concept
> for similar migrations.

If SubWiki is used any time soon, dumping the history seems reasonable.  
Finally, my chance to rewrite history .... ;)



RE: wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Greg Stein wrote (technical details omitted):
> *if* we migrate to SubWiki or some other Wiki, then we can get the
> data out of UseModWiki.

Sounds like your approach follows the truism that in the worst case any open
source code that can read its own data can be instrumented to become its own
migration tool.

What would you guess is the relative effort to preserve the history?  I'm
just wondering if the history value at the cut-over point will be worth the
incremental effort, unless you want to do it anyway as a proof-of-concept
for similar migrations.

	--- Noel