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[jira] Created: (FOR-1177) where does forrest use Rhino
where does forrest use Rhino
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Key: FOR-1177
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
Project: Forrest
Issue Type: Task
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Reporter: David Crossley
Priority: Blocker
Fix For: 0.9-dev
While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
See:
lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
and prior to that
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[jira] Commented: (FOR-1177) where does forrest use Rhino
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David Crossley commented on FOR-1177:
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To try to clarify ... Please see comments above at 12/Nov/09 ... i have a feeling that we still have the old NPL-licensed Rhino. Our svn log shows that lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar was added on 2005-12-09 while the referenced "Rhino now MPL/GPL" thread indicates that that happened around 2006-11-10.
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
> Project: Forrest
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> Reporter: David Crossley
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> Fix For: 0.9-dev
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
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David Crossley commented on FOR-1177:
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Thanks. I had a look too. The way the jar is packaged is fine. I agree with the NOTICE section.
One thing: Do we really need to mention the version number in there? A maintenance issue. The jar file has the version number. Still, i am happy to leave it there if it needs emphasis.
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
> Project: Forrest
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> Reporter: David Crossley
> Assignee: Tim Williams
> Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 0.9-dev
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
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David Crossley commented on FOR-1177:
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That was SVN revision 417027 on 2006-06-25. Perhaps there is some discussion on the dev list leading up to that commit.
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
> Project: Forrest
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> Reporter: David Crossley
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> Fix For: 0.9-dev
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
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[jira] Commented: (FOR-1177) where does forrest use Rhino
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Tim Williams commented on FOR-1177:
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Indeed, it looks[1] like 1.6R5 was the first release under the new license. I think there are a couple things working in our favor here. We have version 1.6R2 and it is, apparently, working. 1.6R3 was a maintenance release claiming to be binary compatible with the previous release. 1.6R4 fixed a specific issue. And 1.6R5 was simply the license changing release. Given this, to reduce risk of breaking people by totally upgrading to 1.7Rx, I'd recommend we upgrade to 1.6R5 for now to clear up the license discrepancy and move on. Thoughts?
--tim
[1] - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Rhino_downloads_archive
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
> Project: Forrest
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: Other
> Reporter: David Crossley
> Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 0.9-dev
>
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R1.jar
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Tim Williams commented on FOR-1177:
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Ok, I've parsed those license sections the best I can and tried to adhere to their intent. I'd appreciate a review from someone else though before we close this [again].
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R1.jar
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[jira] Closed: (FOR-1177) where does forrest use Rhino
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Tim Williams closed FOR-1177.
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Resolution: Fixed
I feel pretty good that this latest update to the Notices file complies with the MPL license.
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
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> Fix For: 0.9-dev
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
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Tim Williams commented on FOR-1177:
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I'm not aware of the use of flowscript anywhere. But google turned up this:
http://marc.info/?l=forrest-svn&m=118525454408427&w=2
Of course, that makes it possible to use it, doesn't indicate that we *are* using it. Maybe grep javascript on the sitemap and plugin dirs would help turn up anything?
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
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David Crossley commented on FOR-1177:
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The trouble is that Rhino licensing is very obscure.
A general wide search might help, as there are various ASF projects using Rhino.
This search at "legal-discuss" helps:
http://markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.apache.legal-discuss+rhino
Especially this:
Subject: Rhino now MPL/GPL
Date: 2006-11-14
http://markmail.org/message/aeuint32kcuhpgqo
which links to a "mozilla.dev.tech" thread about "Relicensing of Rhino to MPL"
which links back to some other ASF discussion threads.
So we might need to update our version of Rhino.
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R1.jar
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David Crossley commented on FOR-1177:
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Here is one discussion thread:
Subject: cocoon flow and forrest
Date: 2006-06-24
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.forrest.devel/21474/focus=21486
Using find|grep located mentions of Flow in ...
whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.output.solr/resources/flow/
whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.output.solr/output.xmap
but it is commented out, saying "OLD flow approach".
plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.wiki/resources/chaperon/sitemap.xmap
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
> Project: Forrest
> Issue Type: Task
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> Reporter: David Crossley
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> Fix For: 0.9-dev
>
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R1.jar
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Tim Williams commented on FOR-1177:
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Shucks, thanks David, I'll add to the NOTICE.txt file this weekend if someone doesn't beat me to it.
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R1.jar
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[jira] Resolved: (FOR-1177) where does forrest use Rhino
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Tim Williams resolved FOR-1177.
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Assignee: Tim Williams
Resolution: Fixed
For now, I ran with my latest proposal to update to 1.6R5 which brings us up to an MPL license version which, I gather, is acceptable. I think even if someone were to be using continuations it shouldn't break them as there are only a single issue and license change between the old version and this.
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R1.jar
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David Crossley commented on FOR-1177:
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Also ASF Legal docs about using MPL
http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
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> Key: FOR-1177
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
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David Crossley commented on FOR-1177:
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Using svnsearch.org (thanks) led me to Cocoon's old listing of what jars are used for. Unfortunately that document is busted. The source
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/lib/jars.xml
indicates that Rhino "Continuations-based JavaScript engine" is used by Cocoon "Control flow".
So where in Forrest do we use Flow?
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
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Razan Abbass commented on FOR-1177:
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> Key: FOR-1177
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1177
> Project: Forrest
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> Reporter: David Crossley
> Assignee: Tim Williams
> Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 0.9-dev
>
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
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Tim Williams commented on FOR-1177:
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Thanks David, I just changed it to "this version" instead. It doesn't change the intent of that sentence at all - good catch.
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> Key: FOR-1177
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
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[jira] Reopened: (FOR-1177) where does forrest use Rhino
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David Crossley reopened FOR-1177:
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Thanks for doing that part of the task.
We also need to follow the license requirements:
e.g.
http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/MPL-1.1.html#section-3.6
... which i gather means adding to our NOTICE.txt
> where does forrest use Rhino
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> While assessing the license situation for FOR-855 and FOR-857 ... one of the difficult cases is "Rhino".
> Does someone know why we use Rhino and which part of Forrest? Did it just come along by accident with our addition of Cocoon, or is it actually being used?
> See:
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R2.jar
> and prior to that
> lib/core/rhino-1.6R1.jar
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