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Posted to dev@ode.apache.org by Matthieu Riou <ma...@offthelip.org> on 2008/06/07 03:16:29 UTC

ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Hi,

I've just cut our first release candidate for ODE 1.2. The idea is to have
people test it for a little while and if it doesn't break anybody's process,
it will eventually become the final release. It's *not* an official release
for now.

Please find the webapp and jbi binaries as well as the source packages here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sources/1.2RC1/

The full repository is here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1

And the full changelog:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel

Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak up!

Thanks,
Matthieu

Re: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Nowakowski, Mateusz <
Mateusz.Nowakowski@sabre-holdings.com> wrote:

> - Does external variables would support other than database data source?
> Is this possible to provide own data source for external variables? Is
> this possible to correlate this data source with input(s) messages? My
> first idea is to use request JBI NormalizedMessage properties as data
> source...


1st part of the question:  Will external variables support other types of
datasources beside JDBC?  Yes, the mechanism is abstract enough to support
other datasources.  We plan on adding REST resources in the future as
another type of external variable.

Regarding JBI NormalizedMessage properies, we've been working on a spec
proposal for "context" that could hold this kind of information in the
process data and carry it between the process and the integration layer
(Axis2/JBI/SCA/...).  We'll publish something on the wiki very soon to
kickstart the discussion.  This being said, the best practice for data that
needs to be accessed and manipulated within business processes is still to
place this information in the message payload, not in message headers or
properties.

alex

Re: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by Alexis Midon <mi...@intalio.com>.
64 issues in the release, (12 new features, 11 improvements, 43 bugs)
see the jira for details: http://tinyurl.com/5hczp7

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Nowakowski, Mateusz <
Mateusz.Nowakowski@sabre-holdings.com> wrote:

> I have some questions regarding new version:
> - Do you expect any performance improvement?
> - Is this version would support ExtensionActivity? I cannot find any
> documentation for it.
> - Does external variables would support other than database data source?
> Is this possible to provide own data source for external variables? Is
> this possible to correlate this data source with input(s) messages? My
> first idea is to use request JBI NormalizedMessage properties as data
> source...
> - I didn't notice any other than these two big improvements. What are
> other functional improvements?
>
> --
> Regards
> Mateusz Nowakowski
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: matthieu.riou@gmail.com [mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Matthieu Riou
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:16 AM
> To: user@ode.apache.org; dev@ode.apache.org
> Subject: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just cut our first release candidate for ODE 1.2. The idea is to
> have
> people test it for a little while and if it doesn't break anybody's
> process,
> it will eventually become the final release. It's *not* an official
> release
> for now.
>
> Please find the webapp and jbi binaries as well as the source packages
> here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war>
> /1.2RC1/
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi>
> /1.2RC1/
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sou
> rces/1.2RC1/<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sources/1.2RC1/>
>
> The full repository is here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1>
>
> And the full changelog:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plug
> in.system.project:roadmap-panel
>
> Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak up!
>
> Thanks,
> Matthieu
>

Re: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@offthelip.org>
wrote:

> >
> > - I didn't notice any other than these two big improvements. What are
> > other functional improvements?
> >
>
> Another big one is the HTTP binding for WSDL which allows the invocation of
> some RESTful web services. And then there are all the small bug fixes that
> I
> hope will, overall, provide a much improved experience.


... and Endpoint Configuration which allows you to pass properties to the
integration layer to configure minute transport details such as timeout,
encoding, etc.

alex

Re: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@offthelip.org>
wrote:

> >
> > - I didn't notice any other than these two big improvements. What are
> > other functional improvements?
> >
>
> Another big one is the HTTP binding for WSDL which allows the invocation of
> some RESTful web services. And then there are all the small bug fixes that
> I
> hope will, overall, provide a much improved experience.


... and Endpoint Configuration which allows you to pass properties to the
integration layer to configure minute transport details such as timeout,
encoding, etc.

alex

Re: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@offthelip.org>.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Nowakowski, Mateusz <
Mateusz.Nowakowski@sabre-holdings.com> wrote:

> I have some questions regarding new version:
> - Do you expect any performance improvement?


Depends a bit of how you're using ODE. For example if you're using the
OpenJPA persistence you should see some performance improvement. For the
processes in memory, it should be roughly equivalent.

>
> - Is this version would support ExtensionActivity? I cannot find any
> documentation for it.


No, as I mentioned we're still releasing the stable branch and not the trunk
yet (unfortunately). We're hoping to be able to release the trunk
soon(backward compatibility issues) and that should include extensions.


>
> - Does external variables would support other than database data source?
> Is this possible to provide own data source for external variables? Is
> this possible to correlate this data source with input(s) messages? My
> first idea is to use request JBI NormalizedMessage properties as data
> source...


Theoretically yes, the backend implementation is pluggable. But I don't
think it's configurable ATM. And correlating with input messages would be
really head I think...


>
> - I didn't notice any other than these two big improvements. What are
> other functional improvements?
>

Another big one is the HTTP binding for WSDL which allows the invocation of
some RESTful web services. And then there are all the small bug fixes that I
hope will, overall, provide a much improved experience.

Cheers,
Matthieu



> --
> Regards
> Mateusz Nowakowski
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: matthieu.riou@gmail.com [mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Matthieu Riou
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:16 AM
> To: user@ode.apache.org; dev@ode.apache.org
> Subject: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just cut our first release candidate for ODE 1.2. The idea is to
> have
> people test it for a little while and if it doesn't break anybody's
> process,
> it will eventually become the final release. It's *not* an official
> release
> for now.
>
> Please find the webapp and jbi binaries as well as the source packages
> here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war>
> /1.2RC1/
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi>
> /1.2RC1/
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sou
> rces/1.2RC1/<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sources/1.2RC1/>
>
> The full repository is here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1>
>
> And the full changelog:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plug
> in.system.project:roadmap-panel
>
> Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak up!
>
> Thanks,
> Matthieu
>

Re: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@offthelip.org>.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Nowakowski, Mateusz <
Mateusz.Nowakowski@sabre-holdings.com> wrote:

> I have some questions regarding new version:
> - Do you expect any performance improvement?


Depends a bit of how you're using ODE. For example if you're using the
OpenJPA persistence you should see some performance improvement. For the
processes in memory, it should be roughly equivalent.

>
> - Is this version would support ExtensionActivity? I cannot find any
> documentation for it.


No, as I mentioned we're still releasing the stable branch and not the trunk
yet (unfortunately). We're hoping to be able to release the trunk
soon(backward compatibility issues) and that should include extensions.


>
> - Does external variables would support other than database data source?
> Is this possible to provide own data source for external variables? Is
> this possible to correlate this data source with input(s) messages? My
> first idea is to use request JBI NormalizedMessage properties as data
> source...


Theoretically yes, the backend implementation is pluggable. But I don't
think it's configurable ATM. And correlating with input messages would be
really head I think...


>
> - I didn't notice any other than these two big improvements. What are
> other functional improvements?
>

Another big one is the HTTP binding for WSDL which allows the invocation of
some RESTful web services. And then there are all the small bug fixes that I
hope will, overall, provide a much improved experience.

Cheers,
Matthieu



> --
> Regards
> Mateusz Nowakowski
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: matthieu.riou@gmail.com [mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Matthieu Riou
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:16 AM
> To: user@ode.apache.org; dev@ode.apache.org
> Subject: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just cut our first release candidate for ODE 1.2. The idea is to
> have
> people test it for a little while and if it doesn't break anybody's
> process,
> it will eventually become the final release. It's *not* an official
> release
> for now.
>
> Please find the webapp and jbi binaries as well as the source packages
> here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war>
> /1.2RC1/
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi>
> /1.2RC1/
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sou
> rces/1.2RC1/<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sources/1.2RC1/>
>
> The full repository is here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1<http://people.apache.org/%7Emriou/ode-1.2RC1>
>
> And the full changelog:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plug
> in.system.project:roadmap-panel
>
> Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak up!
>
> Thanks,
> Matthieu
>

Re: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Nowakowski, Mateusz <
Mateusz.Nowakowski@sabre-holdings.com> wrote:

> - Does external variables would support other than database data source?
> Is this possible to provide own data source for external variables? Is
> this possible to correlate this data source with input(s) messages? My
> first idea is to use request JBI NormalizedMessage properties as data
> source...


1st part of the question:  Will external variables support other types of
datasources beside JDBC?  Yes, the mechanism is abstract enough to support
other datasources.  We plan on adding REST resources in the future as
another type of external variable.

Regarding JBI NormalizedMessage properies, we've been working on a spec
proposal for "context" that could hold this kind of information in the
process data and carry it between the process and the integration layer
(Axis2/JBI/SCA/...).  We'll publish something on the wiki very soon to
kickstart the discussion.  This being said, the best practice for data that
needs to be accessed and manipulated within business processes is still to
place this information in the message payload, not in message headers or
properties.

alex

RE: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by "Nowakowski, Mateusz" <Ma...@sabre-holdings.com>.
I have some questions regarding new version:
- Do you expect any performance improvement?
- Is this version would support ExtensionActivity? I cannot find any
documentation for it.
- Does external variables would support other than database data source?
Is this possible to provide own data source for external variables? Is
this possible to correlate this data source with input(s) messages? My
first idea is to use request JBI NormalizedMessage properties as data
source...
- I didn't notice any other than these two big improvements. What are
other functional improvements?

-- 
Regards
Mateusz Nowakowski

-----Original Message-----
From: matthieu.riou@gmail.com [mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Matthieu Riou
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:16 AM
To: user@ode.apache.org; dev@ode.apache.org
Subject: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Hi,

I've just cut our first release candidate for ODE 1.2. The idea is to
have
people test it for a little while and if it doesn't break anybody's
process,
it will eventually become the final release. It's *not* an official
release
for now.

Please find the webapp and jbi binaries as well as the source packages
here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war
/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi
/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sou
rces/1.2RC1/

The full repository is here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1

And the full changelog:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plug
in.system.project:roadmap-panel

Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak up!

Thanks,
Matthieu

RE: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by "Nowakowski, Mateusz" <Ma...@sabre-holdings.com>.
I have some questions regarding new version:
- Do you expect any performance improvement?
- Is this version would support ExtensionActivity? I cannot find any
documentation for it.
- Does external variables would support other than database data source?
Is this possible to provide own data source for external variables? Is
this possible to correlate this data source with input(s) messages? My
first idea is to use request JBI NormalizedMessage properties as data
source...
- I didn't notice any other than these two big improvements. What are
other functional improvements?

-- 
Regards
Mateusz Nowakowski

-----Original Message-----
From: matthieu.riou@gmail.com [mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Matthieu Riou
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:16 AM
To: user@ode.apache.org; dev@ode.apache.org
Subject: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Hi,

I've just cut our first release candidate for ODE 1.2. The idea is to
have
people test it for a little while and if it doesn't break anybody's
process,
it will eventually become the final release. It's *not* an official
release
for now.

Please find the webapp and jbi binaries as well as the source packages
here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war
/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi
/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sou
rces/1.2RC1/

The full repository is here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1

And the full changelog:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plug
in.system.project:roadmap-panel

Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak up!

Thanks,
Matthieu

RE: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by "Nowakowski, Mateusz" <Ma...@sabre-holdings.com>.
> Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak
up!


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-263

:)

As I see it is considered to be fixed in 1.2 version. It would simplify
a lot our timeout functionality.

-- 
Regards
Mateusz Nowakowski

-----Original Message-----
From: matthieu.riou@gmail.com [mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Matthieu Riou
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:16 AM
To: user@ode.apache.org; dev@ode.apache.org
Subject: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Hi,

I've just cut our first release candidate for ODE 1.2. The idea is to
have
people test it for a little while and if it doesn't break anybody's
process,
it will eventually become the final release. It's *not* an official
release
for now.

Please find the webapp and jbi binaries as well as the source packages
here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war
/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi
/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sou
rces/1.2RC1/

The full repository is here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1

And the full changelog:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plug
in.system.project:roadmap-panel

Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak up!

Thanks,
Matthieu

RE: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Posted by "Nowakowski, Mateusz" <Ma...@sabre-holdings.com>.
> Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak
up!


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-263

:)

As I see it is considered to be fixed in 1.2 version. It would simplify
a lot our timeout functionality.

-- 
Regards
Mateusz Nowakowski

-----Original Message-----
From: matthieu.riou@gmail.com [mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Matthieu Riou
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:16 AM
To: user@ode.apache.org; dev@ode.apache.org
Subject: ODE 1.2 Release Candidate 1

Hi,

I've just cut our first release candidate for ODE 1.2. The idea is to
have
people test it for a little while and if it doesn't break anybody's
process,
it will eventually become the final release. It's *not* an official
release
for now.

Please find the webapp and jbi binaries as well as the source packages
here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-war
/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-jbi
/1.2RC1/
http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1/org/apache/ode/apache-ode-sou
rces/1.2RC1/

The full repository is here:

http://people.apache.org/~mriou/ode-1.2RC1

And the full changelog:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plug
in.system.project:roadmap-panel

Now is your chance to influence what needs fixing for ODE 1.2, speak up!

Thanks,
Matthieu