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Posted to dev@wicket.apache.org by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> on 2007/05/22 14:41:35 UTC
Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
All,
In order to get a positive vote on our graduation we need to get a
good description and specify the scope of the Apache Wicket project.
Currently the draft contains the following snippet:
"Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and maintenance
of open-source software for component oriented web development
Which is vague, too broad and requires some tuning. I'd like to get
some input from the community (that includes *you* too!) for improving
this.
The full (email address sensored) resolution can be found below.
Oh, and I need it ASAP!
Martijn
## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
Establish the Apache Wicket project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known as
"Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and maintenance
of open-source software for component oriented web
development for distribution at no charge to the public.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC) is hereby established pursuant to Bylaws
of the Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Wicket PMC be and hereby is
charged with the creation and maintenance of "Apache Wicket";
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Wicket" be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
Apache Wicket PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
of the Apache Wicket PMC; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Wicket PMC:
* Upayavira
* Alex Karasulu
* Sylvain Wallez
* Martijn Dashorst
* Ate Douma
* Eelco Hillenius
* Gwyn Evans
* Jonathan Locke
* Johan Compagner
* Juergen Donnerstag
* Igor Vaynberg
* Matej Knopp
* Janne Hietamäki
* Frank Bille Jensen
* Al Maw
* Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Jan Blok
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Martijn Dashorst
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Wicket, to serve
in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Wicket Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Wicket podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Wicket podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
PMC are hereafter discharged.
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Thank you all for your input. It has been very valuable. Even though
we didn't copy a verbatim description available in this thread, we
took the meaning of what you said and applied the legal lingo
necessary for a board resolution establishing the Apache Wicket
project.
[...] to establish a Project, to be known as
"Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and maintenance
of open source software, grounded in object oriented programming
principles, for creating highly dynamic, component oriented web
applications for distribution at no charge to the public.
You can see the proposal in its full glory here:
http://www.nabble.com/-VOTE--Graduate-Apache-Wicket-from-the-incubator-tf3811378.html
The proposals in this thread will certainly be incorporated into the
website and release notes. I thank you all for participating in this
effort, and I hope that you will continue trying to come up with a
great introductory paragraph for the Apache Wicket project.
Best regards,
Martijn
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Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Frank Bille <fr...@gmail.com>.
No matter what comes out of this I have bookmarked this thread, because
there is quite a few good descriptions of Wicket, which can be used in other
connections :)
Frank
On 5/22/07, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> In order to get a positive vote on our graduation we need to get a
> good description and specify the scope of the Apache Wicket project.
> Currently the draft contains the following snippet:
>
> "Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software for component oriented web development
>
> Which is vague, too broad and requires some tuning. I'd like to get
> some input from the community (that includes *you* too!) for improving
> this.
>
> The full (email address sensored) resolution can be found below.
>
> Oh, and I need it ASAP!
>
> Martijn
>
>
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>
> Establish the Apache Wicket project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known as
> "Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software for component oriented web
> development for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC) is hereby established pursuant to Bylaws
> of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Wicket PMC be and hereby is
> charged with the creation and maintenance of "Apache Wicket";
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Wicket" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> Apache Wicket PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> of the Apache Wicket PMC; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Wicket PMC:
>
> * Upayavira
> * Alex Karasulu
> * Sylvain Wallez
> * Martijn Dashorst
> * Ate Douma
> * Eelco Hillenius
> * Gwyn Evans
> * Jonathan Locke
> * Johan Compagner
> * Juergen Donnerstag
> * Igor Vaynberg
> * Matej Knopp
> * Janne Hietamäki
> * Frank Bille Jensen
> * Al Maw
> * Jean-Baptiste Quenot
> * Jan Blok
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Martijn Dashorst
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Wicket, to
> serve
> in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
> Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Wicket Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Wicket podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Wicket podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> PMC are hereafter discharged.
>
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Johannes Fahrenkrug <jf...@gebeco.de>.
Ok, here's my take (I like some humor in project descriptions):
Apache Wicket is an Open-Source framework for creating component
oriented web applications that don't look and feel like 1996:
Developers can simply develop powerful state-of-the-art web applications
while harnessing the full potential of OOP but without the burden of
template languages and XML files; designers can create eye-candy with
plain old non-obfuscated HTML. Apache puts the "web" and the
"application" back in web application.
I know, the last sentence is pretty cheesy...
- Johannes
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> All,
>
> In order to get a positive vote on our graduation we need to get a
> good description and specify the scope of the Apache Wicket project.
> Currently the draft contains the following snippet:
>
> "Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software for component oriented web development
>
> Which is vague, too broad and requires some tuning. I'd like to get
> some input from the community (that includes *you* too!) for improving
> this.
>
> The full (email address sensored) resolution can be found below.
>
> Oh, and I need it ASAP!
>
> Martijn
>
>
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>
> Establish the Apache Wicket project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known as
> "Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software for component oriented web
> development for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC) is hereby established pursuant to Bylaws
> of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Wicket PMC be and hereby is
> charged with the creation and maintenance of "Apache Wicket";
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Wicket" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> Apache Wicket PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> of the Apache Wicket PMC; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Wicket PMC:
>
> * Upayavira
> * Alex Karasulu
> * Sylvain Wallez
> * Martijn Dashorst
> * Ate Douma
> * Eelco Hillenius
> * Gwyn Evans
> * Jonathan Locke
> * Johan Compagner
> * Juergen Donnerstag
> * Igor Vaynberg
> * Matej Knopp
> * Janne Hietamäki
> * Frank Bille Jensen
> * Al Maw
> * Jean-Baptiste Quenot
> * Jan Blok
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Martijn Dashorst
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Wicket, to
> serve
> in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
> Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Wicket Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Wicket podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Wicket podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> PMC are hereafter discharged.
>
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Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by John Krasnay <jo...@krasnay.ca>.
Small edit:
...and are refreshingly free of the XML configuration files and
templating languages of other frameworks.
jk
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 03:12:41PM -0400, John Krasnay wrote:
> Here are my attempts, one just a little longer than the other:
>
> Apache Wicket is a framework for component-based assembly of complex, dynamic
> web applications. Wicket applications are built using inheritance and
> composition of plain Java classes and objects and have a refreshing lack of XML
> configuration files and templating languages.
>
> Apache Wicket is a framework for component-based assembly of complex,
> dynamic web applications. Wicket applications are built using
> inheritance and composition of plain Java classes and objects,
> leveraging a Java developer's existing knowledge and tools, and have a
> refreshing lack of the XML configuration files and templating languages
> used by other such frameworks.
>
> jk
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 12:35:53PM -0500, James McLaughlin wrote:
> > All good stuff! I think here are the essential points if someone could
> > just wrap some words around them:
> >
> > * Open Source
> > * Fresh take on Web App frameworks
> > * Harnesses the full power of OO, realizes all of its promise
> > * Specializes in dynamic, component oriented web applications
> > * Component oriented nature and separation of concerns scales well for
> > large development teams
> > * Baked in support for core technologies: Ajax, dependency injection
> > (spring), orm (hibernate)
> > * Fun!!
> >
> > I wouldn't worry too much what the suits say, but the word "radical"
> > really isn't appropriate. Its just that other frameworks are so brain
> > damaged that wicket seems radical. In reality, it is only letting us
> > do what we've been able to on the desktop for decades
> >
> > On 5/23/07, Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de> wrote:
> > >sounds nice - i would change it that way:
> > >
> > >"Apache Wicket is an Open Source project that brings you a new, bright and
> > >fast way of webapplication development. Designed from the ground up to
> > >allow
> > >developers to exploit the full power of Object-Oriented-Design, Wicket
> > >excels at component development, reusability and makes developing even in
> > >bigger teams a breeze."
> > >
> > >
> > >would be shorter and sounds not too "radical" (usually is a showstopper
> > >word
> > >for the "Suitsfraction" that often stops new technologies for business
> > >reasons).
> > >
> > >Any comments?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >> Von: James McLaughlin [mailto:jomclaughlin@gmail.com]
> > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007 17:43
> > >> An: wicket-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> Betreff: Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket
> > >> project for graduation
> > >>
> > >> I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
> > >>
> > >> "Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical
> > >> rethinking of web app development frameworks. Designed from
> > >> the ground up to allow the developer to exploit the full
> > >> expressive power of OOP, Wicket excels at component
> > >> development and reuse. Wicket is the first truly modern
> > >> framework for web application development to fully realize
> > >> the promise of object oriented development."
> > >>
> > >
> > >
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by John Krasnay <jo...@krasnay.ca>.
Here are my attempts, one just a little longer than the other:
Apache Wicket is a framework for component-based assembly of complex, dynamic
web applications. Wicket applications are built using inheritance and
composition of plain Java classes and objects and have a refreshing lack of XML
configuration files and templating languages.
Apache Wicket is a framework for component-based assembly of complex,
dynamic web applications. Wicket applications are built using
inheritance and composition of plain Java classes and objects,
leveraging a Java developer's existing knowledge and tools, and have a
refreshing lack of the XML configuration files and templating languages
used by other such frameworks.
jk
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 12:35:53PM -0500, James McLaughlin wrote:
> All good stuff! I think here are the essential points if someone could
> just wrap some words around them:
>
> * Open Source
> * Fresh take on Web App frameworks
> * Harnesses the full power of OO, realizes all of its promise
> * Specializes in dynamic, component oriented web applications
> * Component oriented nature and separation of concerns scales well for
> large development teams
> * Baked in support for core technologies: Ajax, dependency injection
> (spring), orm (hibernate)
> * Fun!!
>
> I wouldn't worry too much what the suits say, but the word "radical"
> really isn't appropriate. Its just that other frameworks are so brain
> damaged that wicket seems radical. In reality, it is only letting us
> do what we've been able to on the desktop for decades
>
> On 5/23/07, Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de> wrote:
> >sounds nice - i would change it that way:
> >
> >"Apache Wicket is an Open Source project that brings you a new, bright and
> >fast way of webapplication development. Designed from the ground up to
> >allow
> >developers to exploit the full power of Object-Oriented-Design, Wicket
> >excels at component development, reusability and makes developing even in
> >bigger teams a breeze."
> >
> >
> >would be shorter and sounds not too "radical" (usually is a showstopper
> >word
> >for the "Suitsfraction" that often stops new technologies for business
> >reasons).
> >
> >Any comments?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: James McLaughlin [mailto:jomclaughlin@gmail.com]
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007 17:43
> >> An: wicket-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Betreff: Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket
> >> project for graduation
> >>
> >> I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
> >>
> >> "Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical
> >> rethinking of web app development frameworks. Designed from
> >> the ground up to allow the developer to exploit the full
> >> expressive power of OOP, Wicket excels at component
> >> development and reuse. Wicket is the first truly modern
> >> framework for web application development to fully realize
> >> the promise of object oriented development."
> >>
> >
> >
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com>.
All good stuff! I think here are the essential points if someone could
just wrap some words around them:
* Open Source
* Fresh take on Web App frameworks
* Harnesses the full power of OO, realizes all of its promise
* Specializes in dynamic, component oriented web applications
* Component oriented nature and separation of concerns scales well for
large development teams
* Baked in support for core technologies: Ajax, dependency injection
(spring), orm (hibernate)
* Fun!!
I wouldn't worry too much what the suits say, but the word "radical"
really isn't appropriate. Its just that other frameworks are so brain
damaged that wicket seems radical. In reality, it is only letting us
do what we've been able to on the desktop for decades
On 5/23/07, Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de> wrote:
> sounds nice - i would change it that way:
>
> "Apache Wicket is an Open Source project that brings you a new, bright and
> fast way of webapplication development. Designed from the ground up to allow
> developers to exploit the full power of Object-Oriented-Design, Wicket
> excels at component development, reusability and makes developing even in
> bigger teams a breeze."
>
>
> would be shorter and sounds not too "radical" (usually is a showstopper word
> for the "Suitsfraction" that often stops new technologies for business
> reasons).
>
> Any comments?
>
>
>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: James McLaughlin [mailto:jomclaughlin@gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007 17:43
> > An: wicket-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket
> > project for graduation
> >
> > I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
> >
> > "Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical
> > rethinking of web app development frameworks. Designed from
> > the ground up to allow the developer to exploit the full
> > expressive power of OOP, Wicket excels at component
> > development and reuse. Wicket is the first truly modern
> > framework for web application development to fully realize
> > the promise of object oriented development."
> >
>
>
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Bruno Borges <br...@gmail.com>.
Wicket is designed to be easily extensible as a component-based open-source
web framework, decoupled interface and dynamic code, easily integrated with
products like Spring and Hibernate and easily programmable with pure
Object-oriented design in the Java language. The core framework takes all
responsibility for URLs, bindings between data inputs and Models, Javascript
contributions from different components added to a single page, persistent
state of web pages, validation, localization and error reporting. Wicket's
main feature is: fun while coding.
PS: I took the structure from Tapestry's description :)...
--
Bruno Borges
Summa Technologies Inc.
www.summa-tech.com
(48) 8404-1300
(11) 3055-2060
On 5/23/07, Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail <fr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Excelent Quote.
>
> Should be on the Site.
>
> f(t)
>
> On 5/23/07, James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
> >
> > "Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical rethinking
> > of web app development frameworks. Designed from the ground up to
> > allow the developer to exploit the full expressive power of OOP,
> > Wicket excels at component development and reuse. Wicket is the first
> > truly modern framework for web application development to fully
> > realize the promise of object oriented development."
> >
>
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail <fr...@gmail.com>.
Excelent Quote.
Should be on the Site.
f(t)
On 5/23/07, James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
>
> "Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical rethinking
> of web app development frameworks. Designed from the ground up to
> allow the developer to exploit the full expressive power of OOP,
> Wicket excels at component development and reuse. Wicket is the first
> truly modern framework for web application development to fully
> realize the promise of object oriented development."
>
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thanks. Please edit away with abandoned. I think what is important is
that wicket is the only framework that is completely OO, and that is
why so many people are excited about it.
On 5/23/07, Nick Heudecker <nh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ya know, that's not bad. Might need a couple edits, but I think it's a
> great start.
>
> On 5/23/07, James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
> >
> > "Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical rethinking
> > of web app development frameworks. Designed from the ground up to
> > allow the developer to exploit the full expressive power of OOP,
> > Wicket excels at component development and reuse. Wicket is the first
> > truly modern framework for web application development to fully
> > realize the promise of object oriented development."
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Nick Heudecker
> Professional Wicket Training & Consulting
> http://www.systemmobile.com
>
> Eventful - Intelligent Event Management
> http://www.eventfulhq.com
>
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Nick Heudecker <nh...@gmail.com>.
Ya know, that's not bad. Might need a couple edits, but I think it's a
great start.
On 5/23/07, James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
>
> "Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical rethinking
> of web app development frameworks. Designed from the ground up to
> allow the developer to exploit the full expressive power of OOP,
> Wicket excels at component development and reuse. Wicket is the first
> truly modern framework for web application development to fully
> realize the promise of object oriented development."
>
--
Nick Heudecker
Professional Wicket Training & Consulting
http://www.systemmobile.com
Eventful - Intelligent Event Management
http://www.eventfulhq.com
AW: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de>.
sounds nice - i would change it that way:
"Apache Wicket is an Open Source project that brings you a new, bright and
fast way of webapplication development. Designed from the ground up to allow
developers to exploit the full power of Object-Oriented-Design, Wicket
excels at component development, reusability and makes developing even in
bigger teams a breeze."
would be shorter and sounds not too "radical" (usually is a showstopper word
for the "Suitsfraction" that often stops new technologies for business
reasons).
Any comments?
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: James McLaughlin [mailto:jomclaughlin@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007 17:43
> An: wicket-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket
> project for graduation
>
> I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
>
> "Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical
> rethinking of web app development frameworks. Designed from
> the ground up to allow the developer to exploit the full
> expressive power of OOP, Wicket excels at component
> development and reuse. Wicket is the first truly modern
> framework for web application development to fully realize
> the promise of object oriented development."
>
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com>.
I'm a wicket fanboy, so no apologies if this seems over the top :) :
"Wicket is an Open Source project that represents a radical rethinking
of web app development frameworks. Designed from the ground up to
allow the developer to exploit the full expressive power of OOP,
Wicket excels at component development and reuse. Wicket is the first
truly modern framework for web application development to fully
realize the promise of object oriented development."
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Nick Heudecker <nh...@gmail.com>.
I honestly didn't even read the Tapestry site. Oh well...
On 5/22/07, Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de> wrote:
>
> I had about 5 different tries, but none short and elegant ... will think
> about it tomorrow. If anyone finds a shorter or more elegant way to
> describe
> it, I would be glad. The trouble is, that if you cut it too short then you
> can just put *any* webframework into it and it still fits... (comes close
> to
> b******t-bingo)
>
> Korbinian
AW: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de>.
if you put "robust" and "highly scalable" in it, you get this:
http://tapestry.apache.org/ (first sentence) :P
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Nick Heudecker [mailto:nheudecker@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007 21:47
> An: wicket-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket
> project for graduation
>
> Here's my swipe at it:
>
> "Apache Wicket is an Open-Source framework for easily
> creating dynamic, component-oriented web applications."
>
> On 5/22/07, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Korbinian!
> >
> > Thanks for chipping in! I appreciate your comment. Just one
> thing: it
> > is a bit on the long side :)
> >
> > Can we trim this down into one or two sentences with enough
> adjectives
> > that define Wicket (and its current and future subprojects) with
> > enough leverage for future directions, but distinguishing
> us from for
> > instance Tapestry or MyFaces?
> >
> > I like the first part:
> >
> > "Apache Wicket is an Open-Source framework for creating highly
> > dynamic, component oriented webapplications with ease as well as
> > seperation of concerns in mind."
> >
> > It could use a little tender loving care though, but it is
> certainly
> > in the good direction.
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> > --
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> Wicket 1.2.6
> > contains a very important fix. Download Wicket now!
> > http://wicketframework.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Nick Heudecker
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Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Nick Heudecker <nh...@gmail.com>.
Here's my swipe at it:
"Apache Wicket is an Open-Source framework for easily creating dynamic,
component-oriented web applications."
On 5/22/07, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Korbinian!
>
> Thanks for chipping in! I appreciate your comment. Just one thing: it
> is a bit on the long side :)
>
> Can we trim this down into one or two sentences with enough adjectives
> that define Wicket (and its current and future subprojects) with
> enough leverage for future directions, but distinguishing us from for
> instance Tapestry or MyFaces?
>
> I like the first part:
>
> "Apache Wicket is an Open-Source framework for creating highly dynamic,
> component oriented webapplications with ease as well as seperation of
> concerns in mind."
>
> It could use a little tender loving care though, but it is certainly
> in the good direction.
>
> Martijn
>
> --
> Join the wicket community at irc.freenode.net: ##wicket
> Wicket 1.2.6 contains a very important fix. Download Wicket now!
> http://wicketframework.org
>
--
Nick Heudecker
Professional Wicket Training & Consulting
http://www.systemmobile.com
Eventful - Intelligent Event Management
http://www.eventfulhq.com
AW: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de>.
I had about 5 different tries, but none short and elegant ... will think
about it tomorrow. If anyone finds a shorter or more elegant way to describe
it, I would be glad. The trouble is, that if you cut it too short then you
can just put *any* webframework into it and it still fits... (comes close to
b******t-bingo)
Korbinian
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Martijn Dashorst [mailto:martijn.dashorst@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007 18:51
> An: wicket-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket
> project for graduation
>
> Hi Korbinian!
>
> Thanks for chipping in! I appreciate your comment. Just one
> thing: it is a bit on the long side :)
>
> Can we trim this down into one or two sentences with enough
> adjectives that define Wicket (and its current and future
> subprojects) with enough leverage for future directions, but
> distinguishing us from for instance Tapestry or MyFaces?
>
> I like the first part:
>
> "Apache Wicket is an Open-Source framework for creating
> highly dynamic, component oriented webapplications with ease
> as well as seperation of concerns in mind."
>
> It could use a little tender loving care though, but it is
> certainly in the good direction.
>
> Martijn
>
> --
> Join the wicket community at irc.freenode.net: ##wicket
> Wicket 1.2.6 contains a very important fix. Download Wicket now!
> http://wicketframework.org
>
Re: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Korbinian!
Thanks for chipping in! I appreciate your comment. Just one thing: it
is a bit on the long side :)
Can we trim this down into one or two sentences with enough adjectives
that define Wicket (and its current and future subprojects) with
enough leverage for future directions, but distinguishing us from for
instance Tapestry or MyFaces?
I like the first part:
"Apache Wicket is an Open-Source framework for creating highly dynamic,
component oriented webapplications with ease as well as seperation of
concerns in mind."
It could use a little tender loving care though, but it is certainly
in the good direction.
Martijn
--
Join the wicket community at irc.freenode.net: ##wicket
Wicket 1.2.6 contains a very important fix. Download Wicket now!
http://wicketframework.org
AW: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project for graduation
Posted by Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de>.
>(that includes *you*
> too!) for improving this.
"Apache Wicket is an Open-Source framework for creating highly dynamic,
component oriented webapplications with ease as well as seperation of
concerns in mind.
Every Wicket component contains the HTML Markup (in an nearly unmodified
HTML File), potentially needed resources (CSS and or JavaScript) as well as
the logic in a POJO object - wich makes developing even in bigger teams a
breeze.
Therefore its based on basic Servlet technology and can be run in any Java
1.4 compliant webcontainer like Tomcat or Jetty.
The big plus on wicket is its very OO oriented way of doing things which
helps anyone with SWING background and gives a good learning curve compared
to other Frameworks."
this would be my 2 cent for a short intro (you didnt specify how long it
should be - if it should be longer then maybe put in: wicket cares for URLs,
AJAX is quite easy and can be achived without a single line of JS written by
yourself, very modular -> wicketstuff + wicketextension provide already a
nice base to start with)
Regards
Korbinian
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Martijn Dashorst [mailto:martijn.dashorst@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007 14:42
> An: Wicket Development
> Betreff: Need description and scope of Apache Wicket project
> for graduation
>
> All,
>
> In order to get a positive vote on our graduation we need to
> get a good description and specify the scope of the Apache
> Wicket project.
> Currently the draft contains the following snippet:
>
> "Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and
> maintenance of open-source software for component oriented
> web development
>
> Which is vague, too broad and requires some tuning. I'd like
> to get some input from the community (that includes *you*
> too!) for improving this.
>
> The full (email address sensored) resolution can be found below.
>
> Oh, and I need it ASAP!
>
> Martijn
>
>
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>
> Establish the Apache Wicket project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known as
> "Apache Wicket Project", related to the creation and
> maintenance
> of open-source software for component oriented web
> development for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC) is hereby established pursuant to Bylaws
> of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Wicket PMC be and hereby is
> charged with the creation and maintenance of "Apache Wicket";
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache
> Wicket" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> Apache Wicket PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> of the Apache Wicket PMC; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Wicket PMC:
>
> * Upayavira
> * Alex Karasulu
> * Sylvain Wallez
> * Martijn Dashorst
> * Ate Douma
> * Eelco Hillenius
> * Gwyn Evans
> * Jonathan Locke
> * Johan Compagner
> * Juergen Donnerstag
> * Igor Vaynberg
> * Matej Knopp
> * Janne Hietamäki
> * Frank Bille Jensen
> * Al Maw
> * Jean-Baptiste Quenot
> * Jan Blok
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Martijn Dashorst
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
> Wicket, to serve
> in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
> Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Wicket Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Wicket podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Wicket podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> PMC are hereafter discharged.
>