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[axis2] locked="false"
Anyone mind if we remove the explicit locked="false" attributes from
most of the parameters in the default axis2.xml?
--Glen
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Paul Fremantle wrote:
> By the way I forgot to say --- I'm am completely +1 on removing
> locked=false.
>
> Paul
>
> PS Did you hear about the Dalai Lama at the hotdog stall.
> He said: Make me one with everything.
;-).
Sanjiva.
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
By the way I forgot to say --- I'm am completely +1 on removing locked=false.
Paul
PS Did you hear about the Dalai Lama at the hotdog stall.
He said: Make me one with everything.
On 3/23/07, Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Glen, Sanjiva
>
> If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it
> make a sound?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest
>
> If you remove all sign of it from axis2.xml, I don't think it matters
> whether its there or not. Most users will never see any more than
> that.
>
> Paul
>
> On 3/23/07, Sanjaya Karunasena <sa...@wso2.com> wrote:
> > On Friday 23 March 2007 10:35, Deepal Jayasinghe wrote:
> > > > Not only do I not mind it but can you please also remove the entire
> > > > concept? AFAIK we have *never* found a need for the "locked" vs.
> > > > "unlocked" concept .. so let's just dink it. YAGNI and all that.
> > >
> > > I am -1 on removing locked attribute , it has many usecases though we
> > > are not suing that inside Axis2 codebase. External parties will find it
> > > very useful , I remember at the last apacheCon I heard from one of user
> > > that he is using locked attribute in his applications.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Deepal
> > >
> > >
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> > If I have correctly understood the rational here, locked attribute will allow
> > me to have a setting across the server which cannot be changed by the users.
> > Meaning, by the services.xml.
> >
> > Yes, that will have valid use cases. But what are the real use cases for
> > having that attribute available in services.xml?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sanjaya
> >
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>
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Glen, Sanjiva
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it
make a sound?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest
If you remove all sign of it from axis2.xml, I don't think it matters
whether its there or not. Most users will never see any more than
that.
Paul
On 3/23/07, Sanjaya Karunasena <sa...@wso2.com> wrote:
> On Friday 23 March 2007 10:35, Deepal Jayasinghe wrote:
> > > Not only do I not mind it but can you please also remove the entire
> > > concept? AFAIK we have *never* found a need for the "locked" vs.
> > > "unlocked" concept .. so let's just dink it. YAGNI and all that.
> >
> > I am -1 on removing locked attribute , it has many usecases though we
> > are not suing that inside Axis2 codebase. External parties will find it
> > very useful , I remember at the last apacheCon I heard from one of user
> > that he is using locked attribute in his applications.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Deepal
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: axis-dev-help@ws.apache.org
>
> If I have correctly understood the rational here, locked attribute will allow
> me to have a setting across the server which cannot be changed by the users.
> Meaning, by the services.xml.
>
> Yes, that will have valid use cases. But what are the real use cases for
> having that attribute available in services.xml?
>
> Thanks
> Sanjaya
>
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>
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http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
paul@wso2.com
"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Sanjaya Karunasena <sa...@wso2.com>.
On Friday 23 March 2007 10:35, Deepal Jayasinghe wrote:
> > Not only do I not mind it but can you please also remove the entire
> > concept? AFAIK we have *never* found a need for the "locked" vs.
> > "unlocked" concept .. so let's just dink it. YAGNI and all that.
>
> I am -1 on removing locked attribute , it has many usecases though we
> are not suing that inside Axis2 codebase. External parties will find it
> very useful , I remember at the last apacheCon I heard from one of user
> that he is using locked attribute in his applications.
>
> Thanks
> Deepal
>
>
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If I have correctly understood the rational here, locked attribute will allow
me to have a setting across the server which cannot be changed by the users.
Meaning, by the services.xml.
Yes, that will have valid use cases. But what are the real use cases for
having that attribute available in services.xml?
Thanks
Sanjaya
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Deepal Jayasinghe <de...@opensource.lk>.
> Not only do I not mind it but can you please also remove the entire
> concept? AFAIK we have *never* found a need for the "locked" vs.
> "unlocked" concept .. so let's just dink it. YAGNI and all that.
I am -1 on removing locked attribute , it has many usecases though we
are not suing that inside Axis2 codebase. External parties will find it
very useful , I remember at the last apacheCon I heard from one of user
that he is using locked attribute in his applications.
Thanks
Deepal
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
While I'm +1 for removing the explicit locked="false" attributes It
may not be right to trash the concept right away. IMHO I see that this
may become useful if Axis2 is in a hosting environment and the host
would not want any of his users to override his settings.
So I would say interpret the absence of the attribute as a 'false'
but keep the concept
Ajith
On 3/22/07, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Not only do I not mind it but can you please also remove the entire
> concept? AFAIK we have *never* found a need for the "locked" vs.
> "unlocked" concept .. so let's just dink it. YAGNI and all that.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> Glen Daniels wrote:
> > Anyone mind if we remove the explicit locked="false" attributes from
> > most of the parameters in the default axis2.xml?
> >
> > --Glen
> >
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> >
> >
>
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> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
> Director; Open Source Initiative; http://www.opensource.org/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
Hi Sanjiva:
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> Not only do I not mind it but can you please also remove the entire
> concept? AFAIK we have *never* found a need for the "locked" vs.
> "unlocked" concept .. so let's just dink it. YAGNI and all that.
:)
Well, this I have to -1. Consider this case - a company wants to ensure
that ALL services in a particular shared Axis instance (a departmental
server, say) have particular settings for certain attributes. Locking
allows that to happen and immediately catches any problems where
subordinate services/modules attempt to change the locked settings. I'd
like us to continue to be able to support that kind of thing.
--Glen
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Not only do I not mind it but can you please also remove the entire
concept? AFAIK we have *never* found a need for the "locked" vs.
"unlocked" concept .. so let's just dink it. YAGNI and all that.
Sanjiva.
Glen Daniels wrote:
> Anyone mind if we remove the explicit locked="false" attributes from
> most of the parameters in the default axis2.xml?
>
> --Glen
>
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Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
Director; Open Source Initiative; http://www.opensource.org/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
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Re: [axis2] locked="false"
Posted by Deepal Jayasinghe <de...@opensource.lk>.
+1 for doing so .
Thanks
Deepal
Glen Daniels wrote:
> Anyone mind if we remove the explicit locked="false" attributes from
> most of the parameters in the default axis2.xml?
>
> --Glen
>
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>
>
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Thanks,
Deepal
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