Quickstart development environment

[Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>]

I finally got around to downloading the sources for Wookie. My
conclusion is that it is too difficult to create a simple testing
environment. That is, we don't realy want potential developers to have
to jump through so many hoops to just try it out. I've not actually
got it running for this reason - not that it is hard, but because I
don't want to install mysql and tomcat, I just want to download and
run "ant run".

Since MySQL needs to be removed anyway I propose:

a) replace MySQL with Apache Derby in the default setup
b) bundle Jetty in the download
c) create new ant tasks for setting up a simple demo/development/test
environment

Any problems with this approach?

Ross

-- 
Ross Gardler

OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
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Re: Quickstart development environment

[Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu>]

Ross Gardler wrote:
> I finally got around to downloading the sources for Wookie. My
> conclusion is that it is too difficult to create a simple testing
> environment. That is, we don't realy want potential developers to have
> to jump through so many hoops to just try it out. I've not actually
> got it running for this reason - not that it is hard, but because I
> don't want to install mysql and tomcat, I just want to download and
> run "ant run".
> 
> Since MySQL needs to be removed anyway I propose:
> 
> a) replace MySQL with Apache Derby in the default setup
> b) bundle Jetty in the download
> c) create new ant tasks for setting up a simple demo/development/test
> environment

+1

Ate

> 
> Any problems with this approach?
> 
> Ross
> 

Re: Quickstart development environment

[Kris Popat <kj...@googlemail.com>]

I`ve used Jetty before and found it to work well both to create a standalone
server and as a servlet container.  I don`t know much about Derby though.

Kris

2009/8/20 Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>

> On Thursday, August 20, 2009, Scott Wilson
> <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I haven't any particular experience with Derby and Jetty - I suggest
> giving it a try to see how it copes with the demands Wookie places on them.
>
> I can assure you that both will handle anything Wookie can throw at
> them in a test environment. They'd be perfectly fine in most
> production environments too, but I'm not proposing them for that in
> this case.
>
> Ross
>
> >
> > S
> >
> > On 19 Aug 2009, at 23:13, Ross Gardler wrote:
> >
> >
> > I finally got around to downloading the sources for Wookie. My
> > conclusion is that it is too difficult to create a simple testing
> > environment. That is, we don't realy want potential developers to have
> > to jump through so many hoops to just try it out. I've not actually
> > got it running for this reason - not that it is hard, but because I
> > don't want to install mysql and tomcat, I just want to download and
> > run "ant run".
> >
> > Since MySQL needs to be removed anyway I propose:
> >
> > a) replace MySQL with Apache Derby in the default setup
> > b) bundle Jetty in the download
> > c) create new ant tasks for setting up a simple demo/development/test
> > environment
> >
> > Any problems with this approach?
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > --
> > Ross Gardler
> >
> > OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
> > http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Ross Gardler
>
> OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
>

Re: Quickstart development environment

[Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>]

On Thursday, August 20, 2009, Scott Wilson
<sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I haven't any particular experience with Derby and Jetty - I suggest giving it a try to see how it copes with the demands Wookie places on them.

I can assure you that both will handle anything Wookie can throw at
them in a test environment. They'd be perfectly fine in most
production environments too, but I'm not proposing them for that in
this case.

Ross

>
> S
>
> On 19 Aug 2009, at 23:13, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
>
> I finally got around to downloading the sources for Wookie. My
> conclusion is that it is too difficult to create a simple testing
> environment. That is, we don't realy want potential developers to have
> to jump through so many hoops to just try it out. I've not actually
> got it running for this reason - not that it is hard, but because I
> don't want to install mysql and tomcat, I just want to download and
> run "ant run".
>
> Since MySQL needs to be removed anyway I propose:
>
> a) replace MySQL with Apache Derby in the default setup
> b) bundle Jetty in the download
> c) create new ant tasks for setting up a simple demo/development/test
> environment
>
> Any problems with this approach?
>
> Ross
>
> --
> Ross Gardler
>
> OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
>
>
>

-- 
Ross Gardler

OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk

Re: Quickstart development environment

[Scott Wilson <sc...@gmail.com>]

I haven't any particular experience with Derby and Jetty - I suggest  
giving it a try to see how it copes with the demands Wookie places on  
them.

S

On 19 Aug 2009, at 23:13, Ross Gardler wrote:

> I finally got around to downloading the sources for Wookie. My
> conclusion is that it is too difficult to create a simple testing
> environment. That is, we don't realy want potential developers to have
> to jump through so many hoops to just try it out. I've not actually
> got it running for this reason - not that it is hard, but because I
> don't want to install mysql and tomcat, I just want to download and
> run "ant run".
>
> Since MySQL needs to be removed anyway I propose:
>
> a) replace MySQL with Apache Derby in the default setup
> b) bundle Jetty in the download
> c) create new ant tasks for setting up a simple demo/development/test
> environment
>
> Any problems with this approach?
>
> Ross
>
> -- 
> Ross Gardler
>
> OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research
> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk