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embedded fonts an subsets

hi,
i would like to use a pdf as a template in which certain variables will be replaced.
If I create a template pdf via powerpoint or word and export it, it
only exports a pdf file with an embedded subset font.
This subset seems to contain only the characters already in the document and not all characters. How to fix that ? is it possible to reload the font and embed it fully , but how to know which font name correlates to which font file ? In ms office there seems to be no option to force to embed full fonts.

Any idea ?

best regards,
 david



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Re: embedded fonts an subsets

Posted by Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>.
Am 03.08.2016 um 09:03 schrieb Croe.David:
> thank you for fast reply,
>
>> This won't work due to different length / positions. PDF isn't HTML where positioning is done depending on the browser size and where you can easily insert a text into a paragraph.
> yes I know. I've to collect all Tj and TJ calculate positions and so on, of course not easy at all.
> but how to load the same font ? for example text would be rendered with font F1 .
> to load a font I need the corresponding filename. All I can extract is a font name (and family?) which doesn't have any informations which font file should be loaded again.
> How to fill the gap between font name and concrete font file names ? even if it should work on windows and unix/linux (Ubuntu) , or did i miss something?

But you told that you are creating the files yourself, so you'd know in 
advance what fonts this is about. If not, then you'd need to make 
yourself a table with names and os font file names.

Tilman


> best regards,
>   david
>
>
>
> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tilman Hausherr [mailto:THausherr@t-online.de]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. August 2016 18:44
> An: users@pdfbox.apache.org
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>
> Am 02.08.2016 um 12:02 schrieb Croe.David:
>> I've placed some text let's call it variables in the document
>>    for example: %NAME%
>> now I want to replace %NAME% with Mr.Realname
> This won't work due to different length / positions. PDF isn't HTML where positioning is done depending on the browser size and where you can easily insert a text into a paragraph.
>
>> this doesn't work because of the missing characters in the subset font, thus i had the idea to reload the complete font
>> and use that instead.
>>> Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a specific place.
>> the problem is, how to load the same font as used in the given text ?
> The new font would get another name, e.g. F4 instead of F3, so this
> wouldn't be a problem. A problem would be if you want to change / set a
> word into an existing paragraph.
>
>
>
> Tilman
>
>
>> best regards,
>> david
>>
>> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Tilman Hausherr [mailto:THausherr@t-online.de]
>> Gesendet: Montag, 1. August 2016 18:27
>> An: users@pdfbox.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: embedded fonts an subsets
>>
>> Am 01.08.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Croe.David:
>>> hi,
>>> i would like to use a pdf as a template in which certain variables will be replaced.
>>> If I create a template pdf via powerpoint or word and export it, it
>>> only exports a pdf file with an embedded subset font.
>>> This subset seems to contain only the characters already in the document and not all characters. How to fix that ? is it possible to reload the font and embed it fully , but how to know which font name correlates to which font file ? In ms office there seems to be no option to force to embed full fonts.
>> You'll get another problem: the codes for the characters will usually not be the ones you'd expect. I.e. it could be that a = 1, t = 2, x = 3.
>>
>> The better solution is to use acroform for that. But I don't know if word can generate acroforms.
>>
>> Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a specific place.
>>
>> Tilman
>>
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AW: embedded fonts an subsets

Posted by "Croe.David" <cr...@inside-online.de>.
thank you for fast reply,

> This won't work due to different length / positions. PDF isn't HTML where positioning is done depending on the browser size and where you can easily insert a text into a paragraph.

yes I know. I've to collect all Tj and TJ calculate positions and so on, of course not easy at all.
but how to load the same font ? for example text would be rendered with font F1 . 
to load a font I need the corresponding filename. All I can extract is a font name (and family?) which doesn't have any informations which font file should be loaded again.
How to fill the gap between font name and concrete font file names ? even if it should work on windows and unix/linux (Ubuntu) , or did i miss something?

best regards,
 david



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Tilman Hausherr [mailto:THausherr@t-online.de] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. August 2016 18:44
An: users@pdfbox.apache.org
Betreff: Re: embedded fonts an subsets

Am 02.08.2016 um 12:02 schrieb Croe.David:
> I've placed some text let's call it variables in the document
>   for example: %NAME%
> now I want to replace %NAME% with Mr.Realname

This won't work due to different length / positions. PDF isn't HTML where positioning is done depending on the browser size and where you can easily insert a text into a paragraph.

>
> this doesn't work because of the missing characters in the subset font, thus i had the idea to reload the complete font
> and use that instead.
>> Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a specific place.
> the problem is, how to load the same font as used in the given text ?

The new font would get another name, e.g. F4 instead of F3, so this 
wouldn't be a problem. A problem would be if you want to change / set a 
word into an existing paragraph.



Tilman


>
> best regards,
> david
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tilman Hausherr [mailto:THausherr@t-online.de]
> Gesendet: Montag, 1. August 2016 18:27
> An: users@pdfbox.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: embedded fonts an subsets
>
> Am 01.08.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Croe.David:
>> hi,
>> i would like to use a pdf as a template in which certain variables will be replaced.
>> If I create a template pdf via powerpoint or word and export it, it
>> only exports a pdf file with an embedded subset font.
>> This subset seems to contain only the characters already in the document and not all characters. How to fix that ? is it possible to reload the font and embed it fully , but how to know which font name correlates to which font file ? In ms office there seems to be no option to force to embed full fonts.
> You'll get another problem: the codes for the characters will usually not be the ones you'd expect. I.e. it could be that a = 1, t = 2, x = 3.
>
> The better solution is to use acroform for that. But I don't know if word can generate acroforms.
>
> Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a specific place.
>
> Tilman
>
>
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Re: embedded fonts an subsets

Posted by Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>.
Am 02.08.2016 um 12:02 schrieb Croe.David:
> I've placed some text let's call it variables in the document
>   for example: %NAME%
> now I want to replace %NAME% with Mr.Realname

This won't work due to different length / positions. PDF isn't HTML 
where positioning is done depending on the browser size and where you 
can easily insert a text into a paragraph.

>
> this doesn't work because of the missing characters in the subset font, thus i had the idea to reload the complete font
> and use that instead.
>> Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a specific place.
> the problem is, how to load the same font as used in the given text ?

The new font would get another name, e.g. F4 instead of F3, so this 
wouldn't be a problem. A problem would be if you want to change / set a 
word into an existing paragraph.



Tilman


>
> best regards,
> david
>
> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tilman Hausherr [mailto:THausherr@t-online.de]
> Gesendet: Montag, 1. August 2016 18:27
> An: users@pdfbox.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: embedded fonts an subsets
>
> Am 01.08.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Croe.David:
>> hi,
>> i would like to use a pdf as a template in which certain variables will be replaced.
>> If I create a template pdf via powerpoint or word and export it, it
>> only exports a pdf file with an embedded subset font.
>> This subset seems to contain only the characters already in the document and not all characters. How to fix that ? is it possible to reload the font and embed it fully , but how to know which font name correlates to which font file ? In ms office there seems to be no option to force to embed full fonts.
> You'll get another problem: the codes for the characters will usually not be the ones you'd expect. I.e. it could be that a = 1, t = 2, x = 3.
>
> The better solution is to use acroform for that. But I don't know if word can generate acroforms.
>
> Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a specific place.
>
> Tilman
>
>
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AW: embedded fonts an subsets

Posted by "Croe.David" <cr...@inside-online.de>.
I've placed some text let's call it variables in the document
 for example: %NAME%
now I want to replace %NAME% with Mr.Realname

this doesn't work because of the missing characters in the subset font, thus i had the idea to reload the complete font
and use that instead.
>Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a specific place.
the problem is, how to load the same font as used in the given text ?

best regards,
david

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Tilman Hausherr [mailto:THausherr@t-online.de]
Gesendet: Montag, 1. August 2016 18:27
An: users@pdfbox.apache.org
Betreff: Re: embedded fonts an subsets

Am 01.08.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Croe.David:
> hi,
> i would like to use a pdf as a template in which certain variables will be replaced.
> If I create a template pdf via powerpoint or word and export it, it
> only exports a pdf file with an embedded subset font.
> This subset seems to contain only the characters already in the document and not all characters. How to fix that ? is it possible to reload the font and embed it fully , but how to know which font name correlates to which font file ? In ms office there seems to be no option to force to embed full fonts.

You'll get another problem: the codes for the characters will usually not be the ones you'd expect. I.e. it could be that a = 1, t = 2, x = 3.

The better solution is to use acroform for that. But I don't know if word can generate acroforms.

Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a specific place.

Tilman


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Re: embedded fonts an subsets

Posted by Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>.
Am 01.08.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Croe.David:
> hi,
> i would like to use a pdf as a template in which certain variables will be replaced.
> If I create a template pdf via powerpoint or word and export it, it
> only exports a pdf file with an embedded subset font.
> This subset seems to contain only the characters already in the document and not all characters. How to fix that ? is it possible to reload the font and embed it fully , but how to know which font name correlates to which font file ? In ms office there seems to be no option to force to embed full fonts.

You'll get another problem: the codes for the characters will usually 
not be the ones you'd expect. I.e. it could be that a = 1, t = 2, x = 3.

The better solution is to use acroform for that. But I don't know if 
word can generate acroforms.

Alternatively, just append a content stream that puts what you need at a 
specific place.

Tilman


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Re: embedded fonts an subsets

Posted by John Hewson <jo...@jahewson.com>.
> On 1 Aug 2016, at 03:39, Croe.David <cr...@inside-online.de> wrote:
> 
> hi,
> i would like to use a pdf as a template in which certain variables will be replaced.
> If I create a template pdf via powerpoint or word and export it, it
> only exports a pdf file with an embedded subset font.
> This subset seems to contain only the characters already in the document and not all characters. How to fix that ? is it possible to reload the font and embed it fully , but how to know which font name correlates to which font file ? In ms office there seems to be no option to force to embed full fonts.

There’s a setting in MS Word called "Embed only the characters used in the document”, which is used to enable subsetting of fonts. I assume it’s turned on for you. Here’s a guide which mentions in (see page 2):

http://www.sheridan.com/sites/default/files/generating_pdf_from_ms_word_041713.pdf

— John

> Any idea ?
> 
> best regards,
> david
> 
> 
> 
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