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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Vinoth Chandar <vi...@uber.com.INVALID> on 2019/01/03 14:41:31 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Hudi Incubation Proposal
Thanks Pierre!
I think we are ready to move forward with the VOTE, given there are no
additional concerns/comments for the past week or so.
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:38 PM Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi Vinoth,
>
> There is no typical timeline. Each proposal to incubate is unique and each
> timeline depends on the interactions of interested parties.
>
> You can use your own judgement to determine whether everything has been
> said and to take the next step.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
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> Chair*
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>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 2:13 AM Vinoth Chandar <vi...@uber.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback and comments.
> >
> > Its been over a week. Whats the typical timeline/due process for starting
> > the vote?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Vinoth
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM Mohammad Asif Siddiqui <
> > mohammad.asif.siddiqui1@huawei.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like an interesting project.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Asif
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Luciano Resende [mailto:luckbr1975@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: 22 December 2018 PM 05:06
> > > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Hudi Incubation Proposal
> > >
> > > Very nice, looks like you guys might need one more mentor, feel free to
> > > include myself.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 20:29 Vinoth Chandar <vi...@uber.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Justin,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the questions. I will try to answer them below .
> > > >
> > > > >>- Use of slack for communication. [1] Has the project thought about
> > > > >>how
> > > > moving conversations and decision making to a mailing list will
> affect
> > > > the community?
> > > > Good point. We use Slack for interactive debugging, critical
> decisions
> > > > (approaches, designs, PR) still happens over github issues (which
> will
> > > > remain the same anyway).
> > > > I can try running a poll if you are really interested. But moving to
> > > > mailing list should be fine.
> > > >
> > > > >>- Relatively high bar for committership [1]
> > > > So far we used a tweaked version of the chromium project's
> guidelines.
> > > > Open to advice on this going forward inside ASF
> > > >
> > > > >>No mention of non-code contributions at [1],
> > > > Yes, [1] did not recognize that. But we as a project value it
> > > > definitely, In fact, the last two committers are the list are
> included
> > > > with incubation precisely for non-code contributions. They helped get
> > > > Hudi running on cloud systems.
> > > >
> > > > >>- Why the low number (6) of initial committers?
> > > > No specific reason. We have included folks who have contributed
> > > > significantly so far to the project, based on the guidelines we set
> > out.
> > > > Once we have neutral/standardized governance in place from ASF, might
> > > > be easier to absorb more committers.
> > > >
> > > > >>- Of the initial committers mentioned it’s not obvious that all
> have
> > > > >>made
> > > > contributions to the project. You mind listing their GitHub names or
> > > > listing their previous contribution to the project.
> > > > The first four committers would jump out, if you look at the
> > > > contributions here <https://github.com/uber/hudi/graphs/contributors
> >.
> > > > (vinothchandar, n3nash, bvaradar, prazanna). prazanna actually has a
> > > > lot more code ownership, but github is not showing his commits for
> > > > some reason. You can find it in the raw git log. Already covered the
> > > > last two committers in the previous answer.
> > > >
> > > > >>- Under relationships with other Apache Products “there are no
> > > > >>direct
> > > > competing projects with Hudi” is not a concern. The ASF allows
> > > > directly competing projects.
> > > > Sure. we were just describing positioning of the project in the
> > > > ecosystem
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Vinoth
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:42 PM Justin Mclean
> > > > <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice proposal and sounds like an interesting project.
> > > > >
> > > > > A couple of things I noticed that may need some further thought or
> > > > > discussion:
> > > > > - Use of slack for communication. [1] Has the project thought about
> > > > > how moving conversations and decision making to a mailing list will
> > > > > affect
> > > > the
> > > > > community?
> > > > > - Relatively high bar for committership [1]. While it's up to every
> > > > (P)PMC
> > > > > to set the bar, having a high bar hinders project growth and limits
> > > > people
> > > > > who are unable to work full time of the project.
> > > > > - No mention of non-code contributions at [1], as teh ASF we
> welcome
> > > > > all forms of contribution.
> > > > > - Why the low number (6) of initial committers?
> > > > > - Of the initial committers mentioned it’s not obvious that all
> have
> > > > > made contributions to the project. You mind listing their GitHub
> > > > > names or listing their previous contribution to the project.
> > > > > - Under relationships with other Apache Products “there are no
> > > > > direct competing projects with Hudi” is not a concern. The ASF
> > > > > allows directly competing projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. https://uber.github.io/hudi/community.html#becoming-a-committer
> > > > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Hudi Incubation Proposal
Posted by Gosling Von <fe...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I just looked through the proposal for the Hudi and very interested in this project, and also willing to be a Hudi mentor.
Best Regards,
Von Gosling
> 在 2019年1月4日，上午6:10，Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> 写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> There's one issue I think needs to be addressed, if the proposed mentors could follow up on my email sent a few weeks back on private@ that would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Hudi Incubation Proposal
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
There's one issue I think needs to be addressed, if the proposed mentors could follow up on my email sent a few weeks back on private@ that would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Hudi Incubation Proposal
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>.
You’re welcome.
Looking forward to see the vote thread started and cast my ballot.
Happy new year to you and the team, and
Best regards,
Pierre
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 15:41 Vinoth Chandar <vi...@uber.com.invalid> wrote:
> Thanks Pierre!
> I think we are ready to move forward with the VOTE, given there are no
> additional concerns/comments for the past week or so.
>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:38 PM Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Vinoth,
> >
> > There is no typical timeline. Each proposal to incubate is unique and
> each
> > timeline depends on the interactions of interested parties.
> >
> > You can use your own judgement to determine whether everything has been
> > said and to take the next step.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President & PMC
> > Chair*
> > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> privileges)
> > since 2008*
> > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 2:13 AM Vinoth Chandar <vi...@uber.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the feedback and comments.
> > >
> > > Its been over a week. Whats the typical timeline/due process for
> starting
> > > the vote?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Vinoth
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM Mohammad Asif Siddiqui <
> > > mohammad.asif.siddiqui1@huawei.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like an interesting project.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Asif
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Luciano Resende [mailto:luckbr1975@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: 22 December 2018 PM 05:06
> > > > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Hudi Incubation Proposal
> > > >
> > > > Very nice, looks like you guys might need one more mentor, feel free
> to
> > > > include myself.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 20:29 Vinoth Chandar <vinoth@uber.com.invalid
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Justin,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the questions. I will try to answer them below .
> > > > >
> > > > > >>- Use of slack for communication. [1] Has the project thought
> about
> > > > > >>how
> > > > > moving conversations and decision making to a mailing list will
> > affect
> > > > > the community?
> > > > > Good point. We use Slack for interactive debugging, critical
> > decisions
> > > > > (approaches, designs, PR) still happens over github issues (which
> > will
> > > > > remain the same anyway).
> > > > > I can try running a poll if you are really interested. But moving
> to
> > > > > mailing list should be fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > >>- Relatively high bar for committership [1]
> > > > > So far we used a tweaked version of the chromium project's
> > guidelines.
> > > > > Open to advice on this going forward inside ASF
> > > > >
> > > > > >>No mention of non-code contributions at [1],
> > > > > Yes, [1] did not recognize that. But we as a project value it
> > > > > definitely, In fact, the last two committers are the list are
> > included
> > > > > with incubation precisely for non-code contributions. They helped
> get
> > > > > Hudi running on cloud systems.
> > > > >
> > > > > >>- Why the low number (6) of initial committers?
> > > > > No specific reason. We have included folks who have contributed
> > > > > significantly so far to the project, based on the guidelines we set
> > > out.
> > > > > Once we have neutral/standardized governance in place from ASF,
> might
> > > > > be easier to absorb more committers.
> > > > >
> > > > > >>- Of the initial committers mentioned it’s not obvious that all
> > have
> > > > > >>made
> > > > > contributions to the project. You mind listing their GitHub names
> or
> > > > > listing their previous contribution to the project.
> > > > > The first four committers would jump out, if you look at the
> > > > > contributions here <
> https://github.com/uber/hudi/graphs/contributors
> > >.
> > > > > (vinothchandar, n3nash, bvaradar, prazanna). prazanna actually has
> a
> > > > > lot more code ownership, but github is not showing his commits for
> > > > > some reason. You can find it in the raw git log. Already covered
> the
> > > > > last two committers in the previous answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > >>- Under relationships with other Apache Products “there are no
> > > > > >>direct
> > > > > competing projects with Hudi” is not a concern. The ASF allows
> > > > > directly competing projects.
> > > > > Sure. we were just describing positioning of the project in the
> > > > > ecosystem
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Vinoth
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:42 PM Justin Mclean
> > > > > <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice proposal and sounds like an interesting project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A couple of things I noticed that may need some further thought
> or
> > > > > > discussion:
> > > > > > - Use of slack for communication. [1] Has the project thought
> about
> > > > > > how moving conversations and decision making to a mailing list
> will
> > > > > > affect
> > > > > the
> > > > > > community?
> > > > > > - Relatively high bar for committership [1]. While it's up to
> every
> > > > > (P)PMC
> > > > > > to set the bar, having a high bar hinders project growth and
> limits
> > > > > people
> > > > > > who are unable to work full time of the project.
> > > > > > - No mention of non-code contributions at [1], as teh ASF we
> > welcome
> > > > > > all forms of contribution.
> > > > > > - Why the low number (6) of initial committers?
> > > > > > - Of the initial committers mentioned it’s not obvious that all
> > have
> > > > > > made contributions to the project. You mind listing their GitHub
> > > > > > names or listing their previous contribution to the project.
> > > > > > - Under relationships with other Apache Products “there are no
> > > > > > direct competing projects with Hudi” is not a concern. The ASF
> > > > > > allows directly competing projects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Justin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.
> https://uber.github.io/hudi/community.html#becoming-a-committer
> > > > > >
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