New GUI for Apache

[Umberto Nicoletti <un...@arpa.veneto.it>]

Hello everybody,
I'm writing a GUI for apache.
Right now I 'only' have a working parser (in python).
I need people to submit their configuration files so that I can see if
the parser really works or not.

As soon as I am quite confident that the parser works I'll move on the
GUI.
Please note that the parser as is does not support include directives.
I'll add them asap.

If you are so kind to contribute your httpd.conf file please note that
it'll be made publicly available.

You can check out the project at apacheconsole.sourceforge.net.

Bye and thanks,

P.S.: please bear with me if I'm posting to the wrong place...
 
Umberto Nicoletti - unicoletti@arpa.veneto.it | sysmaster@arpa.veneto.it
Tel. 049-8239380 (assistenza)

"We'll try to make different mistakes this time." - Larry Wall

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Re: New GUI for Apache

[Andrew Hawkes <ah...@unicon.net>]

Yeah, I would probably still hand-edit the file too - but I know there are
a lot of people who pop up on this list who would love such a tool.

I'll send him a couple of config files to test it with.

-Andy

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:03:12 -0400
Josh Glover <jm...@incogen.com> wrote:

> Umberto Nicoletti wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > I'm writing a GUI for apache.
> > Right now I 'only' have a working parser (in python).
> > I need people to submit their configuration files so that I can see if
> > the parser really works or not.
> 
> Not to cast a damper on the project, but you may be in for a rough ride.
> 
> Unix daemons tend to be designed for control by config files--text 
> files. Your standard httpd.conf has tons of options, some heavily 
> version-dependent. The problems that GUI config tools for Unix tend to 
> run into are based on this situation. Your GUI tool needs to know about 
> quite a few versions of Apache, and furthermore, needs to be able to 
> detect the version and handle things correctly.
> 
> In general, Unix sysadmins tend to ignore things such as this because of
> their innate complexity and propensity to sod things up pretty badly. In
> my own experience, it is faster to RTFM and edit the config file by hand
> then try to use a GUI configurator, have it blow my configs all to hell,
> and then try to fix things.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Josh Glover <jm...@incogen.com>
> 
> Associate Systems Administrator
> INCOGEN, Inc.
> 
> 
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Re: New GUI for Apache

[Josh Glover <jm...@incogen.com>]

Umberto Nicoletti wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I'm writing a GUI for apache.
> Right now I 'only' have a working parser (in python).
> I need people to submit their configuration files so that I can see if
> the parser really works or not.

Not to cast a damper on the project, but you may be in for a rough ride.

Unix daemons tend to be designed for control by config files--text 
files. Your standard httpd.conf has tons of options, some heavily 
version-dependent. The problems that GUI config tools for Unix tend to 
run into are based on this situation. Your GUI tool needs to know about 
quite a few versions of Apache, and furthermore, needs to be able to 
detect the version and handle things correctly.

In general, Unix sysadmins tend to ignore things such as this because of 
their innate complexity and propensity to sod things up pretty badly. In 
my own experience, it is faster to RTFM and edit the config file by hand 
then try to use a GUI configurator, have it blow my configs all to hell, 
and then try to fix things.


-- 
Josh Glover <jm...@incogen.com>

Associate Systems Administrator
INCOGEN, Inc.


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