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Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Hi
I'm looking for the string "~New..." used in Styles and Formatting(F11) dialog.
I only found one that matches from pootle, which is
cnttab.src#TP_TOX_SELECT.MB_AUTOMARK.MN_AUTOMARK_NEW.menuitem.text
(i.e. string 14005348 ).
https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/translate/sw/source/ui/index.po#unit=14005348
Considering the string "New" is very generic, is there any one can
help me to confirm that I've found the right target?
Thanks.
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Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 08/07/2014 Hung Mark wrote:
> I felt maybe some kind of overview on that page is missing.
> I'm willing to help, but I'm not a native English speaker. I don't
> have confidence that I can express clearly.
> I also worry about people plagued with my bad grammar usage. ;-D
Nothing in https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide was
written by native English speakers, so don't worry about that! If it is
understandable it is surely good, and language details can be fixed later.
> One extra thing to share here:
> HELP_DEBUG=true should be HELP_DEBUG=[trueWord] ( depend on your
> locale. ), where I set HELP_DEBUG=真 in my Windows 7 (ZH-TW).
Sure. Feel free to include that too.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 08:02:24AM +0800, Hung Mark wrote:
> Ariel,
>
> Thanks!
>
> Actually I'm looking for 'more' button. ( another new target! ) I
> observed that in pivot table (calc), the translation of the more
> button changed when I click it.
> It shows one of the two translations when the options below are
> hidden, and shows the other when the options below are shown.
On the en-US version I see the same string, "~More", which looks like
a bug, it should switch between "More" and "Less", but
SV_BUTTONTEXT_MORE and SV_BUTTONTEXT_LESS have the same value in
vcl/source/src/btntext.src
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Hung Mark <ma...@gmail.com>.
Ariel,
Thanks!
Actually I'm looking for 'more' button. ( another new target! ) I
observed that in pivot table (calc), the translation of the more
button changed when I click it.
It shows one of the two translations when the options below are
hidden, and shows the other when the options below are shown.
2014-07-12 3:09 GMT+08:00 Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>:
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 02:06:30AM +0800, Hung Mark wrote:
>> Hmm,
>>
>> Maybe it's too early to say that I understand how to find a target
>> through helpid.
>> For example, when I looked for RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT BTN_MORE, I
>> can't find corresponding code.
>
> This one is peculiar. Do you want to find the dialog with id
> RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT, or the button?
>
> The dialog can be found very easy on Pootle searching only by Locations:
> https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate/#search=RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT&sfields=locations
> but among these strings you won't find the one belonging to BTN_MORE.
>
> pivot.src#RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT.FT_COL.fixedtext.text inside
> sc/source/ui/dbgui.po belong to sc/source/ui/dbgui/pivot.src in the
> source:
>
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/sc/source/ui/dbgui/pivot.src#184
>
> BTN_MORE has no "Text [ en-US ] = ..." (the to-be-localized string),
> because it is a special button, the string is always the same on all
> "More" buttons, so that there is no need to translate it in every
> dialog (the same applies to other common buttons, like "Help" and
> "Cancel").
>
> If you are looking for that "More" string, the location is
> vcl/source/src/btntext.src with id SV_BUTTONTEXT_MORE
>
> https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate/#search=SV_BUTTONTEXT_MORE&sfields=locations
>
>
>> And neither do I know how to search a uno command.
>
> An example with the command ".uno:ExportToPDF" from "File" - "Export as
> PDF":
>
> - To locate the file where the command is: in the UI, UNO command are
> usually in configuration files inside
> officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=%22.uno%3AExportToPDF%22&defs=&refs=&path=xcu&hist=&project=aoo-trunk
> in this example in GenericCommands.xcu
>
> - UNO commands have the form ".uno:CommandName", in Pootle you find them
> with the form uno_CommandName for the UI strings; in the example,
> search for uno_ExportToPDF
> https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate/#search=uno_ExportToPDF&sfields=locations
> For Help strings, the commands are usually inside a bookmark, see
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=%22.uno%3AExportToPDF%22&defs=&refs=&path=helpcontent2&hist=&project=aoo-trunk
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
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Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 02:06:30AM +0800, Hung Mark wrote:
> Hmm,
>
> Maybe it's too early to say that I understand how to find a target
> through helpid.
> For example, when I looked for RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT BTN_MORE, I
> can't find corresponding code.
This one is peculiar. Do you want to find the dialog with id
RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT, or the button?
The dialog can be found very easy on Pootle searching only by Locations:
https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate/#search=RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT&sfields=locations
but among these strings you won't find the one belonging to BTN_MORE.
pivot.src#RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT.FT_COL.fixedtext.text inside
sc/source/ui/dbgui.po belong to sc/source/ui/dbgui/pivot.src in the
source:
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/sc/source/ui/dbgui/pivot.src#184
BTN_MORE has no "Text [ en-US ] = ..." (the to-be-localized string),
because it is a special button, the string is always the same on all
"More" buttons, so that there is no need to translate it in every
dialog (the same applies to other common buttons, like "Help" and
"Cancel").
If you are looking for that "More" string, the location is
vcl/source/src/btntext.src with id SV_BUTTONTEXT_MORE
https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate/#search=SV_BUTTONTEXT_MORE&sfields=locations
> And neither do I know how to search a uno command.
An example with the command ".uno:ExportToPDF" from "File" - "Export as
PDF":
- To locate the file where the command is: in the UI, UNO command are
usually in configuration files inside
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=%22.uno%3AExportToPDF%22&defs=&refs=&path=xcu&hist=&project=aoo-trunk
in this example in GenericCommands.xcu
- UNO commands have the form ".uno:CommandName", in Pootle you find them
with the form uno_CommandName for the UI strings; in the example,
search for uno_ExportToPDF
https://translate.apache.org/es/aoo40/translate/#search=uno_ExportToPDF&sfields=locations
For Help strings, the commands are usually inside a bookmark, see
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=%22.uno%3AExportToPDF%22&defs=&refs=&path=helpcontent2&hist=&project=aoo-trunk
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Hung Mark <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hmm,
Maybe it's too early to say that I understand how to find a target
through helpid.
For example, when I looked for RID_SCDLG_PIVOT_LAYOUT BTN_MORE, I
can't find corresponding code.
And neither do I know how to search a uno command.
2014-07-09 3:06 GMT+08:00 Hung Mark <ma...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Andrea,
>
> I didn't connect my purpose with "Extended Tips" until Ariel
> illustrated the way.
> Before, I thought it will be useful only if I'm going to translate the
> help manual or the tool tips.
> I thought I need a KeyID build. I ask help from the mailing list to
> confirm the target instead since there is only one word I need to
> find.
> I felt maybe some kind of overview on that page is missing.
>
> I'm willing to help, but I'm not a native English speaker. I don't
> have confidence that I can express clearly.
> I also worry about people plagued with my bad grammar usage. ;-D
>
> One extra thing to share here:
> HELP_DEBUG=true should be HELP_DEBUG=[trueWord] ( depend on your
> locale. ), where I set HELP_DEBUG=真 in my Windows 7 (ZH-TW).
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-07-09 2:11 GMT+08:00 Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>:
>> Hung Mark wrote:
>>>
>>> That's awesome! I know how to do it now.
>>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>> If this is not clear enough in our Pootle User Guide
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
>> please copy this example there, to help others; it seems that a worked
>> example as Ariel sent is much better than what we already have.
>>
>> You should already have an account to for editing the MWiki. If you need
>> further help, just ask.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
>>
>>
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Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Hung Mark <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrea,
I didn't connect my purpose with "Extended Tips" until Ariel
illustrated the way.
Before, I thought it will be useful only if I'm going to translate the
help manual or the tool tips.
I thought I need a KeyID build. I ask help from the mailing list to
confirm the target instead since there is only one word I need to
find.
I felt maybe some kind of overview on that page is missing.
I'm willing to help, but I'm not a native English speaker. I don't
have confidence that I can express clearly.
I also worry about people plagued with my bad grammar usage. ;-D
One extra thing to share here:
HELP_DEBUG=true should be HELP_DEBUG=[trueWord] ( depend on your
locale. ), where I set HELP_DEBUG=真 in my Windows 7 (ZH-TW).
2014-07-09 2:11 GMT+08:00 Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>:
> Hung Mark wrote:
>>
>> That's awesome! I know how to do it now.
>> Thank you!
>
>
> If this is not clear enough in our Pootle User Guide
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
> please copy this example there, to help others; it seems that a worked
> example as Ariel sent is much better than what we already have.
>
> You should already have an account to for editing the MWiki. If you need
> further help, just ask.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
>
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Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Hung Mark wrote:
> That's awesome! I know how to do it now.
> Thank you!
If this is not clear enough in our Pootle User Guide
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
please copy this example there, to help others; it seems that a worked
example as Ariel sent is much better than what we already have.
You should already have an account to for editing the MWiki. If you need
further help, just ask.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Hung Mark <ma...@gmail.com>.
That's awesome! I know how to do it now.
Thank you!
2014-07-08 21:34 GMT+08:00 Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>:
> Hi Hung Mark,
>
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 08:28:03PM +0800, Hung Mark wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm looking for the string "~New..." used in Styles and Formatting(F11) dialog.
>
> Do you mean the context menu that pops up when you right-click on
> a style? It has a menu entry "~New...".
>
> If so, these are the long steps:
>
> You can use this tip from the Pootle User Guide
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide/Technical_Helpers#Extended_Tips
> It will show you that the help id is SFX2_HID_STYLIST_NEW
>
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=SFX2_HID_STYLIST_NEW&defs=&refs=&path=&hist=&project=aoo-trunk
> shows it's HID_STYLIST_NEW in the source
>
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=HID_STYLIST_NEW&defs=&refs=&path=src&hist=&project=aoo-trunk
> points to
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/sfx2/source/dialog/dialog.src#80
>
> The menu is
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/sfx2/source/dialog/dialog.src#72
> with id MN_CONTEXT_TEMPLDLG
>
> You can find that ID on Pootle
> https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/translate/#search=MN_CONTEXT_TEMPLDLG&sfields=locations&soptions=exact
>
> or just the PO file: sfx2/source/dialog/dialog.src is included in
> sfx2/source/dialog.po
>
>
> In short: dialog.src#MN_CONTEXT_TEMPLDLG.ID_NEW.menuitem.text
> https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/translate/sfx2/source/dialog.po#unit=13998813
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
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Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Hung Mark,
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 08:28:03PM +0800, Hung Mark wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm looking for the string "~New..." used in Styles and Formatting(F11) dialog.
Do you mean the context menu that pops up when you right-click on
a style? It has a menu entry "~New...".
If so, these are the long steps:
You can use this tip from the Pootle User Guide
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide/Technical_Helpers#Extended_Tips
It will show you that the help id is SFX2_HID_STYLIST_NEW
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=SFX2_HID_STYLIST_NEW&defs=&refs=&path=&hist=&project=aoo-trunk
shows it's HID_STYLIST_NEW in the source
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=HID_STYLIST_NEW&defs=&refs=&path=src&hist=&project=aoo-trunk
points to
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/sfx2/source/dialog/dialog.src#80
The menu is
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/sfx2/source/dialog/dialog.src#72
with id MN_CONTEXT_TEMPLDLG
You can find that ID on Pootle
https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/translate/#search=MN_CONTEXT_TEMPLDLG&sfields=locations&soptions=exact
or just the PO file: sfx2/source/dialog/dialog.src is included in
sfx2/source/dialog.po
In short: dialog.src#MN_CONTEXT_TEMPLDLG.ID_NEW.menuitem.text
https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/translate/sfx2/source/dialog.po#unit=13998813
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: Please help to confirm if I found the right string
Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
The closest match I was able to identify quickly (it's educated, but
still a guess) was:
#: templdlg.src#RID_STYLECATALOG.BT_NEW.pushbutton.text
msgid "~New..."
Located at: \...\sfx2\source\dialog.po.
Regards,
Aivaras
2014.07.08 15:28, Hung Mark rašė:
> Hi
>
> I'm looking for the string "~New..." used in Styles and Formatting(F11) dialog.
>
> I only found one that matches from pootle, which is
>
> cnttab.src#TP_TOX_SELECT.MB_AUTOMARK.MN_AUTOMARK_NEW.menuitem.text
>
> (i.e. string 14005348 ).
>
> https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/translate/sw/source/ui/index.po#unit=14005348
>
> Considering the string "New" is very generic, is there any one can
> help me to confirm that I've found the right target?
>
> Thanks.
>
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