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[Bug 6325] New: FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score.

https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6325

           Summary: FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score.
           Product: Spamassassin
           Version: 3.3.0
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P5
         Component: Rules
        AssignedTo: dev@spamassassin.apache.org
        ReportedBy: christian.kuehn@mcs.de
                CC: mkettler_sa@verizon.net, christian.kuehn@mcs.de


+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #5501 +++

FH_HAS_XID got a S/O of 0.786 in the 3.2 mass-checks but the perceptron wound
up
assigning it a score of aproximately 2.40

Is it still policy that spam rules with a S/O of under 0.80 get dropped from
the
ruleset? If so, we should consider dropping or revising this rule as it's not
living up to the standards but is causing problems.


In #5501 this rule was downscored to zero, but in 3.3.0 back to a high score:

score FH_HAS_XID 3.299 3.215 3.003 1.782 # n=2

in
# UPDATE version 903765




Why???

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[Bug 6325] FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score.

Posted by bu...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org.
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Henrik Krohns <he...@hege.li> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
                 CC|                            |hege@hege.li
         Resolution|                            |FIXED

--- Comment #12 from Henrik Krohns <he...@hege.li> 2011-05-01 20:39:36 UTC ---
Change was propagated ok, probably long time ago. :-)

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[Bug 6325] FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score.

Posted by bu...@issues.apache.org.
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--- Comment #11 from Mark Martinec <Ma...@ijs.si> 2010-05-30 08:53:40 EDT ---
Bug 6325: FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score - zeroing it out
Sending rules/50_scores.cf
Committed revision 949512.

I hope this is the right way to do it.
When it propagates to sa-update this can be closed.

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[Bug 6325] FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score.

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--- Comment #7 from Warren Togami <wt...@redhat.com> 2010-02-12 20:45:56 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> 
> I don't think anyone is yet publishing updates for 3.3.x...

Huh?  Isn't this a bit of a problem?

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[Bug 6325] FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score.

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--- Comment #3 from Warren Togami <wt...@redhat.com> 2010-02-09 14:54:04 UTC ---
+1 to zeroing out or removing the rule from 3.3 and trunk

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[Bug 6325] FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score.

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Karsten Bräckelmann <gu...@rudersport.de> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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          Component|Libraries                   |Rules

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[Bug 6325] FH_HAS_XID Poor S/O, strong score.

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--- Comment #2 from Karsten Bräckelmann <gu...@rudersport.de> 2010-02-09 11:22:15 UTC ---
According to these mass-check results and bug 5501...

+1 on zeroing out the score or even plain dropping the rule entirely. For both,
the 3.3 branch and trunk.

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Mark Martinec <Ma...@ijs.si> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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   Target Milestone|Undefined                   |3.3.1

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Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org> 2010-02-11 15:39:04 UTC ---
+1 to zero score in 3.3.1, removing entirely in trunk.

I don't think anyone is yet publishing updates for 3.3.x...

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--- Comment #4 from Warren Togami <wt...@redhat.com> 2010-02-11 14:50:04 UTC ---
Will this be pushed to sa-update soon, long before 3.3.1?

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Adam Katz <an...@khopis.com> changed:

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                 CC|                            |antispam@khopis.com

--- Comment #1 from Adam Katz <an...@khopis.com> 2010-02-09 11:14:38 UTC ---
Probably one of the faults of using a genetic algorithm; too many generations
will produce a little inbreeding and some unexpected results on a few children,
too few generations will produce something immature.  I think it makes perfect
sense that something like this, which hits almost no messages, fell through the
cracks.

http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20100208-r907584-n/FH_HAS_XID/detail

  MSECS    SPAM%     HAM%     S/O    RANK   SCORE  NAME
      0   0.0060   0.0042   0.586    0.50    3.30  FH_HAS_XID

As to how the automated processes even keep it in the published ruleset (let
alone evade the hand-set score), that's a different puzzle.

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Karsten Bräckelmann <gu...@rudersport.de> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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              Group|security                    |
          Component|Security                    |Libraries
         AssignedTo|security@spamassassin.apach |dev@spamassassin.apache.org
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--- Comment #9 from Karsten Bräckelmann <gu...@rudersport.de> 2010-03-23 17:42:26 UTC ---
Moving back off of Security, which got changed by accident during the mass
Target Milestone move.

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Kevin A. McGrail <km...@pccc.com> changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Kevin A. McGrail <km...@pccc.com> 2010-02-11 16:24:43 UTC ---
+1 to Comment 3

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Dr. Tilmann Bubeck <t....@reinform.de> changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Dr. Tilmann Bubeck <t....@reinform.de> 2010-04-26 03:38:50 EDT ---
This rule is critical, because every mail send through T-Online has a X-ID mail
header. As T-Online is the largest german ISP this has a big influence. A lot
of mails get a score of 3.2999 just because they come from T-Online.

More information (in german) at http://th-h.de/faq/headerfaq.php

Please either delete the rule or lower the score significantly.

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