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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Debbie D <we...@beautytech.com> on 2006/10/25 04:49:36 UTC

score=0.0 tests=none -- how can that be???

I'm just not getting it.. I have a whole list of custom rules, I use 
RulesDuJour, I have custom scores to mark stuff higher.. I have reasonable 
limits set.. the users do not adjust tings here, I do..  I use lint when I 
add scores and rules..

So tell me.. how in the past week or so I have 11 mails in *my* box that 
show:

X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=none

Of these 3 are very valid mails, one from a user on my system but sent thru 
the companies DSL connection and should have caught something.. AWL or 
something. The second valid mail is a payment from paypal.. again.. should 
have hit BAYES_00 at a minimum, third was a valid mail to me from a business 
contact, again, looking at other mails from her it should have hit AWL at a 
minimum.

In the past 12 hours I have receive 6 like this - 2 are valid mails of the 3 
mentioned above..

Am I missing something deep here??

thanks





Re: score=0.0 tests=none -- how can that be???

Posted by Debbie Doerrlamm <we...@beautytech.com>.
 >> Exim 4.52 with SA and ClamAV I use spamc
 >>
 >Oh, one other condition that can cause a "tests=none".. if the size of
 >the message is greater than the -s parameter to spamc.. (default 250k )

Well that theory definitely does not hold water in this case :) the paypal 
one is 4k and most of the others are 3-8k.. but my Eudora does not show the 
size WITH the attachment if there is one.. but the paypal and the one from 
my client do not have attachments or inline images
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Re: score=0.0 tests=none -- how can that be???

Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@verizon.net>.
Debbie D wrote:
> "Matt Kettler" <mk...@verizon.net> wrote in message 
> news:453ED4C8.9030407@verizon.net...
>   
>> Debbie D wrote:
>>     
>>> I'm just not getting it.. I have a whole list of custom rules, I use
>>> RulesDuJour, I have custom scores to mark stuff higher.. I have 
>>> reasonable
>>> limits set.. the users do not adjust tings here, I do..  I use lint when 
>>> I
>>> add scores and rules..
>>>
>>> So tell me.. how in the past week or so I have 11 mails in *my* box that
>>> show:
>>>
>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=none
>>>
>>>       
>> Usually that means a timeout, or your milter was configured to skip SA
>> for the message.
>>
>> How do you call SA? mimedefang? spamc call in procmail.rc?
>>
>>     
>
> Exim 4.52 with SA and ClamAV I use spamc
>   
Oh, one other condition that can cause a "tests=none".. if the size of
the message is greater than the -s parameter to spamc.. (default 250k )

> I will also say that I have been getting slammed with mails that are sending 
> the loads out to Venus.. I added an ACL rule to Exim last week and that 
> helped loads.. yahoo was delaying mails from my server last week also, but 
> that has stopped, their excuse high traffic - yep I believe that
>
> I had the maxchild set to 5, I think we blew it up to 15 with the problems 
> last week before I added the ACL.. and maybe I am just way too tired I can 
> not for the life of me figure out where that setting is to check it now..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   


Re: score=0.0 tests=none -- how can that be???

Posted by Andy Jezierski <aj...@stepan.com>.
news <ne...@sea.gmane.org> wrote on 10/25/2006 08:36:11 AM:

> Thanks Chris I'll do that.. can someone please remind me where I set the 

> max_child limit?? Like I said I could not find it last night I want to 
see 
> what it is set to now and adjust accordingly.
> 

It's the -m parameter you specify when you start spamd. In my case on 
FreeBSD, it's in etc/rc.conf

Andy

Re: score=0.0 tests=none -- how can that be???

Posted by Debbie D <we...@beautytech.com>.
"Chris Lear" <ch...@laculine.com> wrote in message 
news:453F5711.3010209@laculine.com...
>* Debbie D wrote (25/10/06 04:48):
>> "Matt Kettler" <mk...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:453ED4C8.9030407@verizon.net...
>>> Debbie D wrote:
>>>> I'm just not getting it.. I have a whole list of custom rules, I use
>>>> RulesDuJour, I have custom scores to mark stuff higher.. I have
>>>> reasonable
>>>> limits set.. the users do not adjust tings here, I do..  I use lint 
>>>> when
>>>> I
>>>> add scores and rules..
>>>>
>>>> So tell me.. how in the past week or so I have 11 mails in *my* box 
>>>> that
>>>> show:
>>>>
>>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=none
>>>>
>>> Usually that means a timeout, or your milter was configured to skip SA
>>> for the message.
>>>
>>> How do you call SA? mimedefang? spamc call in procmail.rc?
>>>
>>
>> Exim 4.52 with SA and ClamAV I use spamc
>
> In that case, the header is (I'm fairly sure) not added by SA, but by
> exim. Try stopping spamd. Does exim still add the headers? If so, then
> the occasional occurrence is because spamd is overloaded.
> Look in the exim mail log for the mail in question. It might give the
> answer.
>
> Chris

Thanks Chris I'll do that.. can someone please remind me where I set the 
max_child limit?? Like I said I could not find it last night I want to see 
what it is set to now and adjust accordingly.





Re: score=0.0 tests=none -- how can that be???

Posted by Chris Lear <ch...@laculine.com>.
* Debbie D wrote (25/10/06 04:48):
> "Matt Kettler" <mk...@verizon.net> wrote in message 
> news:453ED4C8.9030407@verizon.net...
>> Debbie D wrote:
>>> I'm just not getting it.. I have a whole list of custom rules, I use
>>> RulesDuJour, I have custom scores to mark stuff higher.. I have 
>>> reasonable
>>> limits set.. the users do not adjust tings here, I do..  I use lint when 
>>> I
>>> add scores and rules..
>>>
>>> So tell me.. how in the past week or so I have 11 mails in *my* box that
>>> show:
>>>
>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=none
>>>
>> Usually that means a timeout, or your milter was configured to skip SA
>> for the message.
>>
>> How do you call SA? mimedefang? spamc call in procmail.rc?
>>
> 
> Exim 4.52 with SA and ClamAV I use spamc

In that case, the header is (I'm fairly sure) not added by SA, but by
exim. Try stopping spamd. Does exim still add the headers? If so, then
the occasional occurrence is because spamd is overloaded.
Look in the exim mail log for the mail in question. It might give the
answer.

Chris

Re: score=0.0 tests=none -- how can that be???

Posted by Debbie D <we...@beautytech.com>.
"Matt Kettler" <mk...@verizon.net> wrote in message 
news:453ED4C8.9030407@verizon.net...
> Debbie D wrote:
>> I'm just not getting it.. I have a whole list of custom rules, I use
>> RulesDuJour, I have custom scores to mark stuff higher.. I have 
>> reasonable
>> limits set.. the users do not adjust tings here, I do..  I use lint when 
>> I
>> add scores and rules..
>>
>> So tell me.. how in the past week or so I have 11 mails in *my* box that
>> show:
>>
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=none
>>
> Usually that means a timeout, or your milter was configured to skip SA
> for the message.
>
> How do you call SA? mimedefang? spamc call in procmail.rc?
>

Exim 4.52 with SA and ClamAV I use spamc

I will also say that I have been getting slammed with mails that are sending 
the loads out to Venus.. I added an ACL rule to Exim last week and that 
helped loads.. yahoo was delaying mails from my server last week also, but 
that has stopped, their excuse high traffic - yep I believe that

I had the maxchild set to 5, I think we blew it up to 15 with the problems 
last week before I added the ACL.. and maybe I am just way too tired I can 
not for the life of me figure out where that setting is to check it now..







Re: score=0.0 tests=none -- how can that be???

Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@verizon.net>.
Debbie D wrote:
> I'm just not getting it.. I have a whole list of custom rules, I use 
> RulesDuJour, I have custom scores to mark stuff higher.. I have reasonable 
> limits set.. the users do not adjust tings here, I do..  I use lint when I 
> add scores and rules..
>
> So tell me.. how in the past week or so I have 11 mails in *my* box that 
> show:
>
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=none
>   
Usually that means a timeout, or your milter was configured to skip SA
for the message.

How do you call SA? mimedefang? spamc call in procmail.rc?