Retrieving WSDL and management API,was: Using scenarios, was: Proposed approach for M2

[Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com>]

Hi Clemens,

I changed the subject since your question may have more general  
interest than the thread on scenarios...

An entry point (now renamed "service") would be discoverable through  
a management API. There has been some talk about providing a Tuscany  
management API so if you are interested in jumping in with ideas as  
one doesn't exist yet. Also, it would serve as good feedback to the  
spec group as this functionality also does not currently exist in SCA.

One minor point is that in the .9 spec, WSDL was not the service  
definition lingua franca. We have recently revised this to require  
that remotable services be *expressable* in WSDL. In other words,  
WSDL itself is not mandated by the spec but it does define  
constraints for remotable services. Local services (those within the  
same composite) are not required to be "expressable" in WSDL.

I think it would be  good idea if we had a management API where WSDLs  
could be retrieved for services bound to a protocol that used WSDL.  
We could even provide some type of RESTful explorer core extension  
that used the API...Go ahead and add some things to the Wiki around  
this and we can iterate through it.

Jim


On Jul 2, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Clemens Utschig - Utschig (Oracle) wrote:

> Jim
> how would I discover an exposed entry point? end of day - it's a  
> wsdl ... (looking into the API, some kind of entrypoint explorer  
> functionality would be cool ...)
>
> /clemens
>
> Jim Marino wrote:
>
>> Cool!  When you have questions, ask away.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Clemens Utschig - Utschig (Oracle) wrote:
>>
>>> at least I added a tag to the wiki page on it :-)
>>> more to follow ..
>>>
>>> Jim Marino wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be good if I replied before sending :-) Sure, you can   
>>>> add  the scenario - you just need to create a wiki account if  
>>>> you  don't  already have one. If you are interested in helping  
>>>> to  create a JSF  integration, that would be fantastic.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 2, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Jim Marino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 2, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Clemens Utschig - Utschig (Oracle)   
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yup,
>>>>>> this is the reason why I ask :-) can someone add that (me?)
>>>>>> /clemens
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/2/06, Clemens Utschig - Utschig (Oracle)
>>>>>>> <cl...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I completly miss an end-to-end scenario .. like accessing a   
>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>> through tuscany ... say from a website (preferrably JSF)..
>>>>>>>> helloworld via tuscany ... am I missing something?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a bunch of helloworld-esque samples in the M1 distro   
>>>>>>> but it
>>>>>>> seems like they are not clearly spelt out. I don't think  
>>>>>>> there   are any
>>>>>>> like that on the wiki right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love to see a JSF scenario (and hopefully some hints   
>>>>>>> on  how to
>>>>>>> integrate with it in a manner native to JSF users).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Jeremy
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