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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org> on 2011/06/19 19:14:50 UTC
Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
I am not certain this is identified as something to deal with.
Along with the openoffice.org domain and whatever happens with that, there is also the openoffice.org affinity e-mail forwarding operation.
Is there anything in place to sustain that?
Might it be interrupted or even retired at some point?
(Not proposing, just want to ensure that someone has their eye on this.)
- Dennis
OOo Kenai Migration Notes [Was Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too]
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Dave Fisher wrote:
>> We certainly need a plan that does not simply stop openoffice.org
>> email.
>
> Actually, as others said I would just keep the @openoffice.org addresses
> running; to address a concern, I've used mine for many thousands of
> OOo-related actions and nobody ever questioned if I was speaking on
> behalf of OpenOffice.org or personally.
That is the concern. It is obvious when you see how many signed up for the project with openoffice.org email addresses.
>
>> How many individual forwards do we have?
>
> They used to be really many (in the thousands for sure) but they have
> been reduced in March 2011 with the Kenai migration to only the users
> who had been active (i.e., logged in on the OOo website) in the last (at
> the time) 18 months.
This is good to know. Last 18 months doesn't seem so terrible.
I tracked down the following http://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/Home
This looks like a treasure chest of information about what is there and how it is organized.
Here is an important piece:
> The move is going to include services like publishing of web content, mailing lists, bugtracking,
> ... and the existing content of those.
> Satellite sites like OpenOffice.org forums, extensions and templates sites, ... will not be affected.
> A better integration might be considered later but is not part of the initial effort.
Kenai to Apache Migration Topics are:
- bugtracking
- mailing lists and forwarders.
- web content
Satellite to Apache Migration topics include:
- user forums
- extensions
- templates
Much has been written about all these and other topics in the last week.
I started a community wiki page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Transition+Planning
Please feel free to expand! I have surely missed a lot.
>
>> So, ANYONE could get an openoffice.org email alias for their real
>> email address?
>
> Yes. Even squat it. But I don't think this has ever happened.
>
>> And there must be infrastructure to be able to change that email
>> address and cancel it as well.
>
> No! Changing is probably possible and done in your personal profile, but
> removing used to be impossible as far as I know (not that I ever tried).
>
>> Messy, the bugzilla transition is therefore entangled with how we deal
>> with openoffice.org.
>
> Yes, because here it's hardcoded, as others wrote.
And quite a bit - about 20 or so emails to find and summarize.
>
>> Does this personal openoffice.org email forwarding also entangle with
>> the user forum transitions?
>
> Not in general, but I registered to the forum with my @openoffice.org
> address, so in corner cases this could affect it.
And a reason for trying to keep them.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@openoffice.org>.
Dave Fisher wrote:
> We certainly need a plan that does not simply stop openoffice.org
> email.
Actually, as others said I would just keep the @openoffice.org addresses
running; to address a concern, I've used mine for many thousands of
OOo-related actions and nobody ever questioned if I was speaking on
behalf of OpenOffice.org or personally.
> How many individual forwards do we have?
They used to be really many (in the thousands for sure) but they have
been reduced in March 2011 with the Kenai migration to only the users
who had been active (i.e., logged in on the OOo website) in the last (at
the time) 18 months.
> So, ANYONE could get an openoffice.org email alias for their real
> email address?
Yes. Even squat it. But I don't think this has ever happened.
> And there must be infrastructure to be able to change that email
> address and cancel it as well.
No! Changing is probably possible and done in your personal profile, but
removing used to be impossible as far as I know (not that I ever tried).
> Messy, the bugzilla transition is therefore entangled with how we deal
> with openoffice.org.
Yes, because here it's hardcoded, as others wrote.
> Does this personal openoffice.org email forwarding also entangle with
> the user forum transitions?
Not in general, but I registered to the forum with my @openoffice.org
address, so in corner cases this could affect it.
Regards,
Andrea.
RE: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
I'd say, generally, that this is partly a vanity/affinity e-mail domain, just as The Documentation Foundation is preparing to do for libreoffice.org (although I think you'll have to be a TDF Member to get one, not sure how high that bar will be). It's like my @acm.org, @computer.org (when I had it), or my college alumnus .org. Except about as easy as @facebook.com, @gmail.com, etc.
I hadn't thought about all of the places that people may have provided their openoffice.org email addresses in their profiles, forum sigs, etc. I just logged on to the site and I notice it asks for either an Username OR email address along with the password I had assigned myself.
The wiki has a different username and password (and no click-through agreement that I recall seeing when I registered the other day).
The English user forum does have a terms of use, not mentioning the overall site terms though.
Although I can choose an Username, it looks like the email address is the biggie. Hah, I have to indicate which version of OO.o I am running on what system before I am allowed to complete the registration. The Signature entry is scanned to ensure I've done that. It is filtered and becomes part of my signature on Forum posts. They are doing an e-mail confirmation too.
So more about what is on forums, what people are currently clicked-through, and the use of email addresses tied to accounts and possibly visible in profiles.
- Dennis
AND A BIT MORE ABOUT PROPERTY OF FORUM POSTS:
At the user forum (where I just started a signup) *all* it says I am agreeing to with regard to my contribution is this:
"As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent, neither “OpenOffice.org Community Forum” nor phpBB shall be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised."
There is no license mention other than to point out that phpBB is made available under the GPL. The URI is http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ucp.php?mode=register and its title is "Register * User Control Panel"
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 14:00
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
> On 20.06.2011 14:33, Rob Weir wrote:
>> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
>> service with how Apache projects work.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
>> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
>> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
>> addresses.
>>
>> So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding.
>
> This would be very bad for e.g. issue tracking. I'm not sure how the bugtracker database will get imported though. I think it would be useful if the issue reporters, owners or people who put themselves on the CC list of an issue could see the progress of their favourite tasks. The openoffice.org addresses were used e.g. for notifications or for attributing an issue comment to a user.
We certainly need a plan that does not simply stop openoffice.org email.
We certainly need to make decisions based on all the email lists that currently exist - which apache.org or other mailing list is the replacement.
For notifications about issues both JIRA and Bugzilla can be set to notify the proper apache.org mailing list.
Does anyone have a handle on the numbers?
How many mailing lists are there at openoffice.org?
How many individual forwards do we have?
It would help to have some data before discussing with Infrastructure what they are willing to support and when.
>> The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the
>> question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address
>> means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such
>> an address?
>
> In the old project everybody who wanted to e.g. add a detail to an issue could get such an address within a few minutes. This is similar to how many other projects work, e.g. KDE.
So, ANYONE could get an openoffice.org email alias for their real email address?
And there must be infrastructure to be able to change that email address and cancel it as well.
Messy, the bugzilla transition is therefore entangled with how we deal with openoffice.org.
Does this personal openoffice.org email forwarding also entangle with the user forum transitions?
Regards,
Dave
>
> Best regards,
> Herbert Duerr
RE: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
To add to what Drew says,
The Forum software also provides a cloaked e-mail interface on the profile pages of members. That is, there is a link to create an e-mail and the forum sends it to the registered e-mail address.
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: drew [mailto:drew@baseanswers.com]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 14:33
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
[ ... ]
There is the need for the phpBB system to have access to an SMTP server
and a single administrative email account. I can give details about that
on the intra ML if needed, but it's fairly plane jane stuff.
Otherwise when folks register they supply a real email address and the
forum software needs to notify them of an action, for example when a
response comes to a topic they opened, this real email is used.
//drew
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 14:00 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
> On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>
> > On 20.06.2011 14:33, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
> >> service with how Apache projects work.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
> >> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
> >> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
> >> addresses.
> >>
> >> So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding.
> >
> > This would be very bad for e.g. issue tracking. I'm not sure how the bugtracker database will get imported though. I think it would be useful if the issue reporters, owners or people who put themselves on the CC list of an issue could see the progress of their favourite tasks. The openoffice.org addresses were used e.g. for notifications or for attributing an issue comment to a user.
>
> We certainly need a plan that does not simply stop openoffice.org email.
>
> We certainly need to make decisions based on all the email lists that currently exist - which apache.org or other mailing list is the replacement.
>
> For notifications about issues both JIRA and Bugzilla can be set to notify the proper apache.org mailing list.
>
> Does anyone have a handle on the numbers?
>
> How many mailing lists are there at openoffice.org?
>
> How many individual forwards do we have?
>
> It would help to have some data before discussing with Infrastructure what they are willing to support and when.
>
> >> The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the
> >> question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address
> >> means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such
> >> an address?
> >
> > In the old project everybody who wanted to e.g. add a detail to an issue could get such an address within a few minutes. This is similar to how many other projects work, e.g. KDE.
>
> So, ANYONE could get an openoffice.org email alias for their real email address?
>
> And there must be infrastructure to be able to change that email address and cancel it as well.
>
> Messy, the bugzilla transition is therefore entangled with how we deal with openoffice.org.
>
> Does this personal openoffice.org email forwarding also entangle with the user forum transitions?
Hi
I don't think so.
The registration database is totally separate.
There is the need for the phpBB system to have access to an SMTP server
and a single administrative email account. I can give details about that
on the intra ML if needed, but it's fairly plane jane stuff.
Otherwise when folks register they supply a real email address and the
forum software needs to notify them of an action, for example when a
response comes to a topic they opened, this real email is used.
//drew
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
> On 20.06.2011 14:33, Rob Weir wrote:
>> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
>> service with how Apache projects work.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
>> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
>> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
>> addresses.
>>
>> So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding.
>
> This would be very bad for e.g. issue tracking. I'm not sure how the bugtracker database will get imported though. I think it would be useful if the issue reporters, owners or people who put themselves on the CC list of an issue could see the progress of their favourite tasks. The openoffice.org addresses were used e.g. for notifications or for attributing an issue comment to a user.
We certainly need a plan that does not simply stop openoffice.org email.
We certainly need to make decisions based on all the email lists that currently exist - which apache.org or other mailing list is the replacement.
For notifications about issues both JIRA and Bugzilla can be set to notify the proper apache.org mailing list.
Does anyone have a handle on the numbers?
How many mailing lists are there at openoffice.org?
How many individual forwards do we have?
It would help to have some data before discussing with Infrastructure what they are willing to support and when.
>> The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the
>> question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address
>> means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such
>> an address?
>
> In the old project everybody who wanted to e.g. add a detail to an issue could get such an address within a few minutes. This is similar to how many other projects work, e.g. KDE.
So, ANYONE could get an openoffice.org email alias for their real email address?
And there must be infrastructure to be able to change that email address and cancel it as well.
Messy, the bugzilla transition is therefore entangled with how we deal with openoffice.org.
Does this personal openoffice.org email forwarding also entangle with the user forum transitions?
Regards,
Dave
>
> Best regards,
> Herbert Duerr
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@openoffice.org>.
On 20.06.2011 14:33, Rob Weir wrote:
> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
> service with how Apache projects work.
>
> [...]
>
> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
> addresses.
>
> So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding.
This would be very bad for e.g. issue tracking. I'm not sure how the
bugtracker database will get imported though. I think it would be useful
if the issue reporters, owners or people who put themselves on the CC
list of an issue could see the progress of their favourite tasks. The
openoffice.org addresses were used e.g. for notifications or for
attributing an issue comment to a user.
> The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the
> question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address
> means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such
> an address?
In the old project everybody who wanted to e.g. add a detail to an issue
could get such an address within a few minutes. This is similar to how
many other projects work, e.g. KDE.
Best regards,
Herbert Duerr
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@openoffice.org>.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Dick Groskamp <th...@quicknet.nl>wrote:
> Op 20-6-2011 14:33, Rob Weir schreef:
>
> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
>> service with how Apache projects work.
>>
>> Having such an address appears to suggest that the person is
>> representing the project,or at the very least is a member of the
>> project. But we speak as individuals, both in the project and
>> externally. If we're suggesting that we represent the project, then
>> that is incorrect. There are exceptions, as outlined in the "multiple
>> hats" description [1] , where a PMC Chair or other Apache officers
>> might need to speak authoritatively on policy matters. But that is
>> not the typical case.
>>
>> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
>> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
>> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
>> addresses.
>>
>> +1 I agree. If the same service can be delivered with a.o-email, why
> hang on to OOo-email.
> That might complicate matters unnessisarily
>
> DiGro@openoffice.org
>
>
-1 I think making the switch will complicate things even more.
> --
> DiGro
>
> Windows 7 and OpenOffice.org 3.3
> Scanned with Ziggo uitgebreide Internetbeveiliging (F-Secure)
>
>
--
*Alexandro Colorado*
*OpenOffice.org* Español
http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Dick Groskamp <th...@quicknet.nl>.
Op 20-6-2011 14:33, Rob Weir schreef:
> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
> service with how Apache projects work.
>
> Having such an address appears to suggest that the person is
> representing the project,or at the very least is a member of the
> project. But we speak as individuals, both in the project and
> externally. If we're suggesting that we represent the project, then
> that is incorrect. There are exceptions, as outlined in the "multiple
> hats" description [1] , where a PMC Chair or other Apache officers
> might need to speak authoritatively on policy matters. But that is
> not the typical case.
>
> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
> addresses.
>
+1 I agree. If the same service can be delivered with a.o-email, why
hang on to OOo-email.
That might complicate matters unnessisarily
DiGro@openoffice.org
--
DiGro
Windows 7 and OpenOffice.org 3.3
Scanned with Ziggo uitgebreide Internetbeveiliging (F-Secure)
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Andy Brown <an...@the-martin-byrd.net>.
Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
>> service with how Apache projects work.
>>
>> Having such an address appears to suggest that the person is
>> representing the project,or at the very least is a member of the
>> project. But we speak as individuals, both in the project and
>> externally. If we're suggesting that we represent the project, then
>> that is incorrect. There are exceptions, as outlined in the "multiple
>> hats" description [1] , where a PMC Chair or other Apache officers
>> might need to speak authoritatively on policy matters. But that is
>> not the typical case.
>>
>> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
>> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
>> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
>> addresses.
>>
>> So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding.
>>
>> The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the
>> question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address
>> means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such
>> an address? That seems to duplicate the kinds of questions we already
>> deal with when we look at those individuals whose contributions to the
>> project merit being voted in as Committers, and getting an a.o email
>> address.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#hats
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
>> <de...@acm.org> wrote:
>>> I am not certain this is identified as something to deal with.
>>>
>>> Along with the openoffice.org domain and whatever happens with that,
>> there is also the openoffice.org affinity e-mail forwarding operation.
>>>
>>> Is there anything in place to sustain that?
>>>
>>> Might it be interrupted or even retired at some point?
>>> (Not proposing, just want to ensure that someone has their eye on this.)
>>>
>>> - Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> The email is open to anyone signed in the OOo domain in collabnet. I will
> support the idea to keep it that way. There is no distinction on what level
> of commitment you have to the project. In practice, not many people use the
> OOo domain. I did and even as an active user, very few times I have been
> inquired on how to use it by fellow project members.
>
> So my idea Rob is, lets keep it like this without giving it too much
> overthought of abuse or anything. If there was ill intend it would have been
> spoted through the 10 years of OOo history.
>
> BTW the ES project actually use several @openoffice.org accounts for
> different initiatives through it. It has never really been an issue.
>
I can see keeping what is there but it should be locked so no new
address are allowed. Over time then it could be removed.
My 2 cents.
Andy
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@openoffice.org>.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com> wrote:
> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
> service with how Apache projects work.
>
> Having such an address appears to suggest that the person is
> representing the project,or at the very least is a member of the
> project. But we speak as individuals, both in the project and
> externally. If we're suggesting that we represent the project, then
> that is incorrect. There are exceptions, as outlined in the "multiple
> hats" description [1] , where a PMC Chair or other Apache officers
> might need to speak authoritatively on policy matters. But that is
> not the typical case.
>
> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
> addresses.
>
> So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding.
>
> The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the
> question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address
> means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such
> an address? That seems to duplicate the kinds of questions we already
> deal with when we look at those individuals whose contributions to the
> project merit being voted in as Committers, and getting an a.o email
> address.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#hats
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
> <de...@acm.org> wrote:
> > I am not certain this is identified as something to deal with.
> >
> > Along with the openoffice.org domain and whatever happens with that,
> there is also the openoffice.org affinity e-mail forwarding operation.
> >
> > Is there anything in place to sustain that?
> >
> > Might it be interrupted or even retired at some point?
> > (Not proposing, just want to ensure that someone has their eye on this.)
> >
> > - Dennis
> >
> >
>
The email is open to anyone signed in the OOo domain in collabnet. I will
support the idea to keep it that way. There is no distinction on what level
of commitment you have to the project. In practice, not many people use the
OOo domain. I did and even as an active user, very few times I have been
inquired on how to use it by fellow project members.
So my idea Rob is, lets keep it like this without giving it too much
overthought of abuse or anything. If there was ill intend it would have been
spoted through the 10 years of OOo history.
BTW the ES project actually use several @openoffice.org accounts for
different initiatives through it. It has never really been an issue.
--
*Alexandro Colorado*
*OpenOffice.org* Español
http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:33:55 -0400:
> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
> service with how Apache projects work.
For what it's worth: subversion.org and spamassassin.org are also
controlled by (members of?) the respective PMCs.
For subversion.org we didn't use ${username}@s.o addresses. (perhaps
except for the Corporation officers with their hats on) I don't know if
this was a policy decision or just no one ever asked to enable this.
I don't know about SA's situation.
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com>.
I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding
service with how Apache projects work.
Having such an address appears to suggest that the person is
representing the project,or at the very least is a member of the
project. But we speak as individuals, both in the project and
externally. If we're suggesting that we represent the project, then
that is incorrect. There are exceptions, as outlined in the "multiple
hats" description [1] , where a PMC Chair or other Apache officers
might need to speak authoritatively on policy matters. But that is
not the typical case.
And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
addresses.
So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding.
The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the
question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address
means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such
an address? That seems to duplicate the kinds of questions we already
deal with when we look at those individuals whose contributions to the
project merit being voted in as Committers, and getting an a.o email
address.
-Rob
[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#hats
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<de...@acm.org> wrote:
> I am not certain this is identified as something to deal with.
>
> Along with the openoffice.org domain and whatever happens with that, there is also the openoffice.org affinity e-mail forwarding operation.
>
> Is there anything in place to sustain that?
>
> Might it be interrupted or even retired at some point?
> (Not proposing, just want to ensure that someone has their eye on this.)
>
> - Dennis
>
>
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Wiki is taking some time. I propose we publish a "Transition" page for the website where we communicate the many transition topics involved and the current status.
>>
>> Do we have an ETA on the wiki?
>
> I took a look at Tony Stevenson's infrastructure JIRA issues which show some of his activity. There looks to have been a critical email infra issue that had to be repaired. He currently has two unresolved issues - our CWKIs plus one for the Flume podling. Also in the unassigned list is a CWIKI for the sqoop podling. I detect some batching of requests that were in the pipeline, we are not the only petri dish in the lab!
>
> The best I can say is soon... not sure what time zone Tony is in.
Gavin has added the cwikis. THANKS!
Assuming no unexpected trouble, I will be granting rights to known committer accounts by Monday High Noon PDT (San Francisco)
I have other commitments at the moment.
BR,
Dave
>
> Best Regards,
> Dave
>
>
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> The Wiki is taking some time. I propose we publish a "Transition" page for the website where we communicate the many transition topics involved and the current status.
>
> Do we have an ETA on the wiki?
I took a look at Tony Stevenson's infrastructure JIRA issues which show some of his activity. There looks to have been a critical email infra issue that had to be repaired. He currently has two unresolved issues - our CWKIs plus one for the Flume podling. Also in the unassigned list is a CWIKI for the sqoop podling. I detect some batching of requests that were in the pipeline, we are not the only petri dish in the lab!
The best I can say is soon... not sure what time zone Tony is in.
Best Regards,
Dave
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com>.
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> The Wiki is taking some time. I propose we publish a "Transition" page for the website where we communicate the many transition topics involved and the current status.
Do we have an ETA on the wiki?
-Rob
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Andrew Rist <an...@oracle.com>.
On 6/19/2011 11:34 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:(1) Transfer domain.(Is the Foundation handling this? Anything needed from the project?)
> - ownership from Oracle to ASF.
>
This is currently in process. And it includes multiple *openoffice*
domains.
Andrew
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> I am not certain this is identified as something to deal with.
>
> Along with the openoffice.org domain and whatever happens with that, there is also the openoffice.org affinity e-mail forwarding operation.
>
> Is there anything in place to sustain that?
>
> Might it be interrupted or even retired at some point?
> (Not proposing, just want to ensure that someone has their eye on this.)
Good catch. I was thinking about the domain transfer workflow which is something I just went through at work.
(1) Transfer domain.(Is the Foundation handling this? Anything needed from the project?)
- ownership from Oracle to ASF.
- Transfer DNS records as is.
(2) Transition subdomains including
- main page overlay
- individual sub-domains...
Forums, Issue Tracker, Email, .... we need to build a mapping of the OOo site and the start deciding replacement and transition strategies for each/
The Wiki is taking some time. I propose we publish a "Transition" page for the website where we communicate the many transition topics involved and the current status.
I think this week has been a great start. The experience of the individuals who are here now is truly incredible. I look forward to working with you all!
Best Regards,
Dave
Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too
Posted by Andy Brown <an...@the-martin-byrd.net>.
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> I am not certain this is identified as something to deal with.
>
> Along with the openoffice.org domain and whatever happens with that, there is also the openoffice.org affinity e-mail forwarding operation.
>
> Is there anything in place to sustain that?
>
> Might it be interrupted or even retired at some point?
> (Not proposing, just want to ensure that someone has their eye on this.)
>
> - Dennis
I was wondering the same thing. I have only received a few bits of mail
but some others seem to use it quite often so it needs to be dealt with.
Andy