Comparison Forrest / Lenya

[Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>]

I am looking for a comparison of Forrest and Lenya and/or a description of their
relation.

Any hints?

Andreas


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Re: Comparison Forrest / Lenya

[Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>]

Michael Wechner wrote:

> [...]
> IMO it would be cool if Forrest would become a Lenya Publication, which
> doesn't mean it has to be shipped with Lenya ;-)
>
Did you talked with anybody from forrest about that?

...and how do you see that?


...a top level Apache projekt as lenya publication
...the small fish eats the big one ...nice...;-)

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Re: Comparison Forrest / Lenya

[Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>]

Andreas Kuckartz wrote:

>I am looking for a comparison of Forrest and Lenya and/or a description of their
>relation.
>
>Any hints?
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>

IMO it would be cool if Forrest would become a Lenya Publication, which
doesn't mean it has to be shipped with Lenya ;-)

Michi

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Re: Comparison Forrest / Lenya

["Scherler, Thorsten" <th...@apache.org>]

Andreas Kuckartz wrote:

> I am looking for a comparison of Forrest and Lenya and/or a description of their
> relation.
> 
> Any hints?
> 
> Andreas

Hello Andreas,

right now lenya is using forrest for their own website like most of the 
Ant based application of the Apache umbrella. There is as well Maven 
based appz which are using Maven for the creation of documentation and 
their website. The usage of ant seems to define the usage of forrest for 
docu creation due to the fact that forrest use ant as building tool.

The comparison of forrest and lenya directly seems to be quite hard 
because they are focusing on different things.

Lenya is a content management system and focuses of workflow, authoring, 
  ... all task regarding managing content and creating content.

Forrest on the other site focus on documentation.
"Apache's Forrest lets you focus exclusively on your content, and 
automates the rest: nothing more, nothing less. Whether you want to 
document an open source project or an internal application, Forrest can 
help you build professional, polished documentation." [1]

IMO the "marriage" of them both in certain areas would be a perfect 
solution for both projects. I see this marriage in a project with code 
name DOCO [2].

I think one step to introduce forrest into lenya would be that the live 
site would be optional produced as a forrest app. I am thinking about 
using the forrestbot to do that. That would it make possible to deploy 
the page on a different server or location. If an application is not 
using dynamic content it could be deployed into the www-server of apache 
as a static html/pdf-site. One advantage would be the speed ;-).

I just wrote some lines about DOCO in the dev list [3].

king regards
thorsten

[1] http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/05/26/forrest.html
[2] http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Doco
[3] 
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=lenya-dev@cocoon.apache.org&msgNo=4116
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