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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com> on 2007/07/29 11:14:42 UTC
Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry handling of html files.
I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works fine!
Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will appear immediately
without reload of context.
But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change the contents of an
html file under the deployment directory,
I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
Does anyone know why this is so?
How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the standalone server as
well?
Please help :-)
Malin
Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Eckenfellner Klaus <ec...@gmail.com>.
for the reason that you have made some logging to application-servlet
... we know, that property is set right ... this is very good, because i
know that running tomcat as service under windows can be a little bit
tricky (especially applying new configurations or using custom
system-properties).
i can't image that different user can make a different. i am no tomcat
profi, but maybe there is some caching enabled on the tomcat-side?!?!
Malin Ljungh wrote:
> Wooooooooo... I may have solved it !?!?
>
> I started comparing all the JVM system properties. One that differed
> was user.name <http://user.name> - service running as SYSTEM and
> eclipse as Malin Ljungh (my local account).
> I tried to change the service run with my own account, Malin Ljungh
> and now it seems to work!?!?
>
> How can this be?
>
> /Malin
>
> On 7/29/07, *Malin Ljungh * <malin.ljungh@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I extended the ApplicationServlet and performed some logging under
> initializeApplication.
> The JVM system property
> org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching is indeed set to true
>
> and it still doesn't work... :'(
>
> Any ideas?
>
> /Malin
>
>
> On 7/29/07, *Malin Ljungh* < malin.ljungh@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thank you Klaus for your input.
> I fully understand your feelings about windows-click-click but
> I'm stuck on this environment, for development at least.
>
> I'm running the Tomcat as a service. I do not have a
> catalina.bat anywhere on my computer... is it maybe a Tomcat 4
> thing? All I can find is the tomcat5.exe.
>
> It's a pity that the Java options doesn't show in any log file.
> I can not understand why it's not working.... gah!
> Guess I'll have to do the ApplicationServlet extenstion to
> find out.
>
> There is no need to "touch" another file to force the update?
> I have seen the publish.xml file in the development
> environment for example with stamps for all files.
>
> /Malin
>
>
>
> On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* < ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> in which way do you start your tomcat? service / startmenu
> / console ?
> maybe you could give the console approach a try and set
> the flag
> manually. other approach could be to edit the catalina.bat
> file where
> you can set a lot of tomcat-specific properties and your own
> vm-properties. sorry but i am linux user and i have made
> bad experiences
> with "windows-click-click" solutions.
>
> another approach is to extend the default
> ApplicationServlet and
> checking in the initializeApplication() method if the flag
> is really
> set. see
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/ApplicationServlet.html#initializeApplication()
> <http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/ApplicationServlet.html#initializeApplication%28%29>.
> so you know if the flag is set right or not, which is a
> very important
> information.
>
>
> Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > OK, so this is the key then...
> >
> > I use tomcat5w.exe "Configure Tomcat" tool.
> > On the Java tab I have Java Options:
> >
> > -Dcatalina.home=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
> > -Dcatalina.base=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
> > - Djava.endorsed.dirs=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> > Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\common\endorsed
> > -Djava.io.tmpdir=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> Foundation\Tomcat
> > 5.5\temp
> > -Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager
>
> > -Djava.util.logging.config.file=C:\Program Files\Apache
> Software
> > Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\conf\logging.properties
> > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> >
> > but that's obviously not doing the trick :-(
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > /Malin
> >
> > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* < ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto: ecko.nfs@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > the only way to get this behavior you want (changes
> to html files are
> > applied without restarting tapestry), can be set with the
> > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true flag. here
> a snippet
> > from the
> > tapestry documentation:
> >
> > If specified (as "true"), then the framework will
> discard all cached
> > data (specifications,>>> !!!! TEMPLATES = html files
> !!!!!<<<<, pooled
> > objects, etc.) at the end of each request cycle. This
> slows down
> > request
> > handling by a noticable amount, but is very useful in
> development; it
> > means that changes to templates and specifications
> are immediately
> > visible to the application. It also helps identify
> any errors in
> > managing persistent page state. This should never be
> enabled in
> > production; the performance hit is too large. Unlike
> most other
> > configuration values, this must be specified as a JVM
> system property.
> >
> > how do you set the flag? consider that it MUST be set as
> > system-property
> > and MUST be set before tapestry has started.
> >
> >
> > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > Klaus!
> > >
> > > I do not use WAR, it is a directory with WEB-INF
> and classes and lib
> > > directories and all that stuff.
> > >
> > > In development I have
> > > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> > > but I have also set this on my standalone Tomcat (I
> think....
> > have not
> > > verified that it works though)
> > > Is it this flag that makes it work it development?
> I thought it was
> > > about class loading but perhaps also effects the
> html files also
> > > (since they are loaded by the servlet)
> > >
> > > I use Tomcat 5.5 and Tapestry 4.1.
> > >
> > > /Malin
> > >
> > > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* <
> ecko.nfs@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:ecko.nfs@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> > > <mailto: ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com> <mailto: ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > how do you deploy your application, with a
> WAR-file or do
> > you copy
> > > webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of
> tomcat?
> > > is it possible that you have set
> > "org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
> > > during development (see
> > >
> >
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> > <
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> <http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html>>)?
> > > which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > > This is mainly about Tomcat but also about
> Tapestry
> > handling of
> > > html files.
> > > >
> > > > I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development
> - works fine!
> > > > Particularly, if I change an html file, the
> change will appear
> > > immediately
> > > > without reload of context.
> > > >
> > > > But - if I have standalone Tomcat server,
> and change the
> > > contents of an
> > > > html file under the deployment directory,
> > > > I need to do a reload of context for changes
> to appear.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know why this is so?
> > > > How can I make the changes appear immedeately
> in the
> > standalone
> > > server as
> > > > well?
> > > >
> > > > Please help :-)
> > > > Malin
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com>.
Wooooooooo... I may have solved it !?!?
I started comparing all the JVM system properties. One that differed was
user.name - service running as SYSTEM and eclipse as Malin Ljungh (my local
account).
I tried to change the service run with my own account, Malin Ljungh
and now it seems to work!?!?
How can this be?
/Malin
On 7/29/07, Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I extended the ApplicationServlet and performed some logging under
> initializeApplication.
> The JVM system property
> org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching is indeed set to true
>
> and it still doesn't work... :'(
>
> Any ideas?
>
> /Malin
>
> On 7/29/07, Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Klaus for your input.
> > I fully understand your feelings about windows-click-click but I'm stuck
> > on this environment, for development at least.
> >
> > I'm running the Tomcat as a service. I do not have a catalina.batanywhere on my computer... is it maybe a Tomcat 4 thing? All I can find is
> > the tomcat5.exe.
> >
> > It's a pity that the Java options doesn't show in any log file.
> > I can not understand why it's not working.... gah!
> > Guess I'll have to do the ApplicationServlet extenstion to find out.
> >
> > There is no need to "touch" another file to force the update? I have
> > seen the publish.xml file in the development environment for example
> > with stamps for all files.
> >
> > /Malin
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/07, Eckenfellner Klaus < ecko.nfs@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > in which way do you start your tomcat? service / startmenu / console ?
> > > maybe you could give the console approach a try and set the flag
> > > manually. other approach could be to edit the catalina.bat file where
> > > you can set a lot of tomcat-specific properties and your own
> > > vm-properties. sorry but i am linux user and i have made bad
> > > experiences
> > > with "windows-click-click" solutions.
> > >
> > > another approach is to extend the default ApplicationServlet and
> > > checking in the initializeApplication() method if the flag is really
> > > set. see
> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/ApplicationServlet.html#initializeApplication()
> > >
> > > <http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/ApplicationServlet.html#initializeApplication%28%29>
> > > .
> > > so you know if the flag is set right or not, which is a very important
> > > information.
> > >
> > >
> > > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > > OK, so this is the key then...
> > > >
> > > > I use tomcat5w.exe "Configure Tomcat" tool.
> > > > On the Java tab I have Java Options:
> > > >
> > > > -Dcatalina.home=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat
> > > 5.5
> > > > -Dcatalina.base=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat
> > > 5.5
> > > > - Djava.endorsed.dirs=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> > > > Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\common\endorsed
> > > > -Djava.io.tmpdir=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat
> > > > 5.5\temp
> > > > -Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager
> > > > -Djava.util.logging.config.file=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> > > > Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\conf\logging.properties
> > > > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> > > >
> > > > but that's obviously not doing the trick :-(
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > /Malin
> > > >
> > > > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* < ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> > > > <mailto: ecko.nfs@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > the only way to get this behavior you want (changes to html
> > > files are
> > > > applied without restarting tapestry), can be set with the
> > > > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true flag. here a snippet
> > > > from the
> > > > tapestry documentation:
> > > >
> > > > If specified (as "true"), then the framework will discard all
> > > cached
> > > > data (specifications,>>> !!!! TEMPLATES = html files !!!!!<<<<,
> > > pooled
> > > > objects, etc.) at the end of each request cycle. This slows down
> > > > request
> > > > handling by a noticable amount, but is very useful in
> > > development; it
> > > > means that changes to templates and specifications are
> > > immediately
> > > > visible to the application. It also helps identify any errors in
> > > > managing persistent page state. This should never be enabled in
> > > > production; the performance hit is too large. Unlike most other
> > > > configuration values, this must be specified as a JVM system
> > > property.
> > > >
> > > > how do you set the flag? consider that it MUST be set as
> > > > system-property
> > > > and MUST be set before tapestry has started.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > > > Klaus!
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not use WAR, it is a directory with WEB-INF and classes
> > > and lib
> > > > > directories and all that stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > In development I have
> > > > > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> > > > > but I have also set this on my standalone Tomcat (I think....
> > > > have not
> > > > > verified that it works though)
> > > > > Is it this flag that makes it work it development? I thought
> > > it was
> > > > > about class loading but perhaps also effects the html files
> > > also
> > > > > (since they are loaded by the servlet)
> > > > >
> > > > > I use Tomcat 5.5 and Tapestry 4.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Malin
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* < ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com>
> > > > > <mailto: ecko.nfs@gmail.com <mailto: ecko.nfs@gmail.com>>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > how do you deploy your application, with a WAR-file or do
> > > > you copy
> > > > > webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of tomcat?
> > > > > is it possible that you have set
> > > > "org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
> > > > > during development (see
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> > > > <http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> > > >)?
> > > > > which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > > > > This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry
> > > > handling of
> > > > > html files.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works
> > > fine!
> > > > > > Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will
> > > appear
> > > > > immediately
> > > > > > without reload of context.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change
> > > the
> > > > > contents of an
> > > > > > html file under the deployment directory,
> > > > > > I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know why this is so?
> > > > > > How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the
> > > > standalone
> > > > > server as
> > > > > > well?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please help :-)
> > > > > > Malin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com>.
I extended the ApplicationServlet and performed some logging under
initializeApplication.
The JVM system property
org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching is indeed set to true
and it still doesn't work... :'(
Any ideas?
/Malin
On 7/29/07, Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Klaus for your input.
> I fully understand your feelings about windows-click-click but I'm stuck
> on this environment, for development at least.
>
> I'm running the Tomcat as a service. I do not have a catalina.bat anywhere
> on my computer... is it maybe a Tomcat 4 thing? All I can find is the
> tomcat5.exe.
>
> It's a pity that the Java options doesn't show in any log file.
> I can not understand why it's not working.... gah!
> Guess I'll have to do the ApplicationServlet extenstion to find out.
>
> There is no need to "touch" another file to force the update? I have seen
> the publish.xml file in the development environment for example with
> stamps for all files.
>
> /Malin
>
>
> On 7/29/07, Eckenfellner Klaus <ec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > in which way do you start your tomcat? service / startmenu / console ?
> > maybe you could give the console approach a try and set the flag
> > manually. other approach could be to edit the catalina.bat file where
> > you can set a lot of tomcat-specific properties and your own
> > vm-properties. sorry but i am linux user and i have made bad experiences
> > with "windows-click-click" solutions.
> >
> > another approach is to extend the default ApplicationServlet and
> > checking in the initializeApplication() method if the flag is really
> > set. see
> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/ApplicationServlet.html#initializeApplication()
> >
> > <http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/ApplicationServlet.html#initializeApplication%28%29>
> > .
> > so you know if the flag is set right or not, which is a very important
> > information.
> >
> >
> > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > OK, so this is the key then...
> > >
> > > I use tomcat5w.exe "Configure Tomcat" tool.
> > > On the Java tab I have Java Options:
> > >
> > > -Dcatalina.home=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
> > > -Dcatalina.base=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
> > > - Djava.endorsed.dirs=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> > > Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\common\endorsed
> > > -Djava.io.tmpdir=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat
> > > 5.5\temp
> > > -Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager
> > > -Djava.util.logging.config.file=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> > > Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\conf\logging.properties
> > > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> > >
> > > but that's obviously not doing the trick :-(
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > /Malin
> > >
> > > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* < ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> > > <mailto: ecko.nfs@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > the only way to get this behavior you want (changes to html files
> > are
> > > applied without restarting tapestry), can be set with the
> > > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true flag. here a snippet
> > > from the
> > > tapestry documentation:
> > >
> > > If specified (as "true"), then the framework will discard all
> > cached
> > > data (specifications,>>> !!!! TEMPLATES = html files !!!!!<<<<,
> > pooled
> > > objects, etc.) at the end of each request cycle. This slows down
> > > request
> > > handling by a noticable amount, but is very useful in development;
> > it
> > > means that changes to templates and specifications are immediately
> >
> > > visible to the application. It also helps identify any errors in
> > > managing persistent page state. This should never be enabled in
> > > production; the performance hit is too large. Unlike most other
> > > configuration values, this must be specified as a JVM system
> > property.
> > >
> > > how do you set the flag? consider that it MUST be set as
> > > system-property
> > > and MUST be set before tapestry has started.
> > >
> > >
> > > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > > Klaus!
> > > >
> > > > I do not use WAR, it is a directory with WEB-INF and classes and
> > lib
> > > > directories and all that stuff.
> > > >
> > > > In development I have
> > > > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> > > > but I have also set this on my standalone Tomcat (I think....
> > > have not
> > > > verified that it works though)
> > > > Is it this flag that makes it work it development? I thought it
> > was
> > > > about class loading but perhaps also effects the html files also
> > > > (since they are loaded by the servlet)
> > > >
> > > > I use Tomcat 5.5 and Tapestry 4.1.
> > > >
> > > > /Malin
> > > >
> > > > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* <ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> > > <ma...@gmail.com>
> > > > <mailto:ecko.nfs@gmail.com <mailto: ecko.nfs@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > how do you deploy your application, with a WAR-file or do
> > > you copy
> > > > webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of tomcat?
> > > > is it possible that you have set
> > > "org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
> > > > during development (see
> > > >
> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> > > <http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> > >)?
> > > > which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > > > This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry
> > > handling of
> > > > html files.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works fine!
> > > > > Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will
> > appear
> > > > immediately
> > > > > without reload of context.
> > > > >
> > > > > But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change the
> > > > contents of an
> > > > > html file under the deployment directory,
> > > > > I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know why this is so?
> > > > > How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the
> > > standalone
> > > > server as
> > > > > well?
> > > > >
> > > > > Please help :-)
> > > > > Malin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com>.
Thank you Klaus for your input.
I fully understand your feelings about windows-click-click but I'm stuck on
this environment, for development at least.
I'm running the Tomcat as a service. I do not have a catalina.bat anywhere
on my computer... is it maybe a Tomcat 4 thing? All I can find is the
tomcat5.exe.
It's a pity that the Java options doesn't show in any log file.
I can not understand why it's not working.... gah!
Guess I'll have to do the ApplicationServlet extenstion to find out.
There is no need to "touch" another file to force the update? I have seen
the publish.xml file in the development environment for example with stamps
for all files.
/Malin
On 7/29/07, Eckenfellner Klaus <ec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> in which way do you start your tomcat? service / startmenu / console ?
> maybe you could give the console approach a try and set the flag
> manually. other approach could be to edit the catalina.bat file where
> you can set a lot of tomcat-specific properties and your own
> vm-properties. sorry but i am linux user and i have made bad experiences
> with "windows-click-click" solutions.
>
> another approach is to extend the default ApplicationServlet and
> checking in the initializeApplication() method if the flag is really
> set. see
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/ApplicationServlet.html#initializeApplication()
> .
> so you know if the flag is set right or not, which is a very important
> information.
>
>
> Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > OK, so this is the key then...
> >
> > I use tomcat5w.exe "Configure Tomcat" tool.
> > On the Java tab I have Java Options:
> >
> > -Dcatalina.home=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
> > -Dcatalina.base=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
> > -Djava.endorsed.dirs=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> > Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\common\endorsed
> > -Djava.io.tmpdir=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat
> > 5.5\temp
> > -Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager
> > -Djava.util.logging.config.file=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> > Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\conf\logging.properties
> > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> >
> > but that's obviously not doing the trick :-(
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > /Malin
> >
> > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* < ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > the only way to get this behavior you want (changes to html files
> are
> > applied without restarting tapestry), can be set with the
> > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true flag. here a snippet
> > from the
> > tapestry documentation:
> >
> > If specified (as "true"), then the framework will discard all cached
> > data (specifications,>>> !!!! TEMPLATES = html files !!!!!<<<<,
> pooled
> > objects, etc.) at the end of each request cycle. This slows down
> > request
> > handling by a noticable amount, but is very useful in development;
> it
> > means that changes to templates and specifications are immediately
> > visible to the application. It also helps identify any errors in
> > managing persistent page state. This should never be enabled in
> > production; the performance hit is too large. Unlike most other
> > configuration values, this must be specified as a JVM system
> property.
> >
> > how do you set the flag? consider that it MUST be set as
> > system-property
> > and MUST be set before tapestry has started.
> >
> >
> > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > Klaus!
> > >
> > > I do not use WAR, it is a directory with WEB-INF and classes and
> lib
> > > directories and all that stuff.
> > >
> > > In development I have
> > > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> > > but I have also set this on my standalone Tomcat (I think....
> > have not
> > > verified that it works though)
> > > Is it this flag that makes it work it development? I thought it
> was
> > > about class loading but perhaps also effects the html files also
> > > (since they are loaded by the servlet)
> > >
> > > I use Tomcat 5.5 and Tapestry 4.1.
> > >
> > > /Malin
> > >
> > > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* <ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:ecko.nfs@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > how do you deploy your application, with a WAR-file or do
> > you copy
> > > webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of tomcat?
> > > is it possible that you have set
> > "org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
> > > during development (see
> > >
> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> > <http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> >)?
> > > which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > > This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry
> > handling of
> > > html files.
> > > >
> > > > I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works fine!
> > > > Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will
> appear
> > > immediately
> > > > without reload of context.
> > > >
> > > > But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change the
> > > contents of an
> > > > html file under the deployment directory,
> > > > I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know why this is so?
> > > > How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the
> > standalone
> > > server as
> > > > well?
> > > >
> > > > Please help :-)
> > > > Malin
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Eckenfellner Klaus <ec...@gmail.com>.
in which way do you start your tomcat? service / startmenu / console ?
maybe you could give the console approach a try and set the flag
manually. other approach could be to edit the catalina.bat file where
you can set a lot of tomcat-specific properties and your own
vm-properties. sorry but i am linux user and i have made bad experiences
with "windows-click-click" solutions.
another approach is to extend the default ApplicationServlet and
checking in the initializeApplication() method if the flag is really
set. see
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/ApplicationServlet.html#initializeApplication().
so you know if the flag is set right or not, which is a very important
information.
Malin Ljungh wrote:
> OK, so this is the key then...
>
> I use tomcat5w.exe "Configure Tomcat" tool.
> On the Java tab I have Java Options:
>
> -Dcatalina.home=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
> -Dcatalina.base=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
> -Djava.endorsed.dirs=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\common\endorsed
> -Djava.io.tmpdir=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat
> 5.5\temp
> -Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager
> -Djava.util.logging.config.file=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
> Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\conf\logging.properties
> -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
>
> but that's obviously not doing the trick :-(
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> /Malin
>
> On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* < ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> the only way to get this behavior you want (changes to html files are
> applied without restarting tapestry), can be set with the
> -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true flag. here a snippet
> from the
> tapestry documentation:
>
> If specified (as "true"), then the framework will discard all cached
> data (specifications,>>> !!!! TEMPLATES = html files !!!!!<<<<, pooled
> objects, etc.) at the end of each request cycle. This slows down
> request
> handling by a noticable amount, but is very useful in development; it
> means that changes to templates and specifications are immediately
> visible to the application. It also helps identify any errors in
> managing persistent page state. This should never be enabled in
> production; the performance hit is too large. Unlike most other
> configuration values, this must be specified as a JVM system property.
>
> how do you set the flag? consider that it MUST be set as
> system-property
> and MUST be set before tapestry has started.
>
>
> Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > Klaus!
> >
> > I do not use WAR, it is a directory with WEB-INF and classes and lib
> > directories and all that stuff.
> >
> > In development I have
> > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> > but I have also set this on my standalone Tomcat (I think....
> have not
> > verified that it works though)
> > Is it this flag that makes it work it development? I thought it was
> > about class loading but perhaps also effects the html files also
> > (since they are loaded by the servlet)
> >
> > I use Tomcat 5.5 and Tapestry 4.1.
> >
> > /Malin
> >
> > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* <ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:ecko.nfs@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > how do you deploy your application, with a WAR-file or do
> you copy
> > webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of tomcat?
> > is it possible that you have set
> "org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
> > during development (see
> >
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html
> <http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html>)?
> > which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
> >
> >
> >
> > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry
> handling of
> > html files.
> > >
> > > I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works fine!
> > > Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will appear
> > immediately
> > > without reload of context.
> > >
> > > But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change the
> > contents of an
> > > html file under the deployment directory,
> > > I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know why this is so?
> > > How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the
> standalone
> > server as
> > > well?
> > >
> > > Please help :-)
> > > Malin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com>.
OK, so this is the key then...
I use tomcat5w.exe "Configure Tomcat" tool.
On the Java tab I have Java Options:
-Dcatalina.home=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
-Dcatalina.base=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat
5.5\common\endorsed
-Djava.io.tmpdir=C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\temp
-Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager
-Djava.util.logging.config.file=C:\Program Files\Apache Software
Foundation\Tomcat 5.5\conf\logging.properties
-Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
but that's obviously not doing the trick :-(
Any suggestions?
/Malin
On 7/29/07, Eckenfellner Klaus <ec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> the only way to get this behavior you want (changes to html files are
> applied without restarting tapestry), can be set with the
> -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true flag. here a snippet from the
> tapestry documentation:
>
> If specified (as "true"), then the framework will discard all cached
> data (specifications,>>> !!!! TEMPLATES = html files !!!!!<<<<, pooled
> objects, etc.) at the end of each request cycle. This slows down request
> handling by a noticable amount, but is very useful in development; it
> means that changes to templates and specifications are immediately
> visible to the application. It also helps identify any errors in
> managing persistent page state. This should never be enabled in
> production; the performance hit is too large. Unlike most other
> configuration values, this must be specified as a JVM system property.
>
> how do you set the flag? consider that it MUST be set as system-property
> and MUST be set before tapestry has started.
>
>
> Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > Klaus!
> >
> > I do not use WAR, it is a directory with WEB-INF and classes and lib
> > directories and all that stuff.
> >
> > In development I have
> > -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> > but I have also set this on my standalone Tomcat (I think.... have not
> > verified that it works though)
> > Is it this flag that makes it work it development? I thought it was
> > about class loading but perhaps also effects the html files also
> > (since they are loaded by the servlet)
> >
> > I use Tomcat 5.5 and Tapestry 4.1.
> >
> > /Malin
> >
> > On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* <ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > how do you deploy your application, with a WAR-file or do you copy
> > webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of tomcat?
> > is it possible that you have set "
> org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
> > during development (see
> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html)?
> > which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
> >
> >
> >
> > Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > > This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry handling of
> > html files.
> > >
> > > I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works fine!
> > > Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will appear
> > immediately
> > > without reload of context.
> > >
> > > But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change the
> > contents of an
> > > html file under the deployment directory,
> > > I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know why this is so?
> > > How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the standalone
> > server as
> > > well?
> > >
> > > Please help :-)
> > > Malin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Eckenfellner Klaus <ec...@gmail.com>.
the only way to get this behavior you want (changes to html files are
applied without restarting tapestry), can be set with the
-Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true flag. here a snippet from the
tapestry documentation:
If specified (as "true"), then the framework will discard all cached
data (specifications,>>> !!!! TEMPLATES = html files !!!!!<<<<, pooled
objects, etc.) at the end of each request cycle. This slows down request
handling by a noticable amount, but is very useful in development; it
means that changes to templates and specifications are immediately
visible to the application. It also helps identify any errors in
managing persistent page state. This should never be enabled in
production; the performance hit is too large. Unlike most other
configuration values, this must be specified as a JVM system property.
how do you set the flag? consider that it MUST be set as system-property
and MUST be set before tapestry has started.
Malin Ljungh wrote:
> Klaus!
>
> I do not use WAR, it is a directory with WEB-INF and classes and lib
> directories and all that stuff.
>
> In development I have
> -Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
> but I have also set this on my standalone Tomcat (I think.... have not
> verified that it works though)
> Is it this flag that makes it work it development? I thought it was
> about class loading but perhaps also effects the html files also
> (since they are loaded by the servlet)
>
> I use Tomcat 5.5 and Tapestry 4.1.
>
> /Malin
>
> On 7/29/07, *Eckenfellner Klaus* <ecko.nfs@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> how do you deploy your application, with a WAR-file or do you copy
> webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of tomcat?
> is it possible that you have set "org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
> during development (see
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html)?
> which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
>
>
>
> Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry handling of
> html files.
> >
> > I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works fine!
> > Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will appear
> immediately
> > without reload of context.
> >
> > But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change the
> contents of an
> > html file under the deployment directory,
> > I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this is so?
> > How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the standalone
> server as
> > well?
> >
> > Please help :-)
> > Malin
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Malin Ljungh <ma...@gmail.com>.
Klaus!
I do not use WAR, it is a directory with WEB-INF and classes and lib
directories and all that stuff.
In development I have
-Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true
but I have also set this on my standalone Tomcat (I think.... have not
verified that it works though)
Is it this flag that makes it work it development? I thought it was about
class loading but perhaps also effects the html files also (since they are
loaded by the servlet)
I use Tomcat 5.5 and Tapestry 4.1.
/Malin
On 7/29/07, Eckenfellner Klaus <ec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> how do you deploy your application, with a WAR-file or do you copy
> webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of tomcat?
> is it possible that you have set "org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
> during development (see
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html)?
> which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
>
>
>
> Malin Ljungh wrote:
> > This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry handling of html
> files.
> >
> > I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works fine!
> > Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will appear
> immediately
> > without reload of context.
> >
> > But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change the contents of an
> > html file under the deployment directory,
> > I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this is so?
> > How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the standalone server
> as
> > well?
> >
> > Please help :-)
> > Malin
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Tomcat Eclipse plugin and stand-alone Tomcat - html files
Posted by Eckenfellner Klaus <ec...@gmail.com>.
how do you deploy your application, with a WAR-file or do you copy
webapplication-folder into webapp-folder of tomcat?
is it possible that you have set "org.apache.tapestry.disable-caching"
during development (see
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/configuration.html)?
which version of tomcat and tapestry do you use?
Malin Ljungh wrote:
> This is mainly about Tomcat but also about Tapestry handling of html files.
>
> I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat for development - works fine!
> Particularly, if I change an html file, the change will appear immediately
> without reload of context.
>
> But - if I have standalone Tomcat server, and change the contents of an
> html file under the deployment directory,
> I need to do a reload of context for changes to appear.
>
> Does anyone know why this is so?
> How can I make the changes appear immedeately in the standalone server as
> well?
>
> Please help :-)
> Malin
>
>
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