Re: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin

[Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org>]

Bowie Bailey writes:
> Will Duff wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > I've been working with SpamAssassin for the course of Google's Summer
> > of Code to create 'SpamAssassin Coach' - an add-in available for
> > Mozilla Thunderbird and Microsoft Outlook.  The purpose of the add-in
> > is to allow users to report spam and ham to SpamAssassin right from
> > their inbox.
> > 
> > Both add-ins are now functional, so I am asking for testers to provide
> > feedback, bug reports and the like.  If you would like to test an
> > add-in, you can download SpamAssassin Coach from my SourceForge.net
> > page at http://sourceforge.net/projects/soc2006spamd/.  Feel free to
> > add bug reports, feature requests or email me directly at willduff
> > *AT* gmail.com.
> > 
> > I hope that SpamAssassin Coach can grow to be an important tool for
> > SpamAssassin users.  Thanks for any help!
> > 
> > For more information about SpamAssassin Coach, please refer to the
> > following links:
> > 
> > SourceForge.net Project: 
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/soc2006spamd/ Google Summer of Code
> > Application Info:
> > http://code.google.com/soc/asf/appinfo.html?csaid=DF01D8A7A5E102D7 
> 
> Interesting idea, but I need to see some documentation on how it works
> before I'm going to download and install it.

Well, it looks like the source is available at
http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/soc2006spamd/ .

This is great -- thanks Will -- it's great to have tools like these
finally available under an open source license!

--j.

Re: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin

[Will Duff <wi...@gmail.com>]

Thanks all for the already valuable feedback and support!  To answer
some questions:

On 8/31/06, Doc Schneider <ma...@maddoc.net> wrote:
> Couple of commments. right clicking on a message doesn't give any option
> to "report as ham or spam" I think this would be a valuable option.
>
> Secondly, I use multiple imap servers and accounts all within the same
> T-bird. But, unless I missed it, your options only allow things to be
> reported to one SA (on 127.0.0.1 by default). Does it save other servers
> for reporting to? Might also be worth it to add this to the "tools" menu?

Good ideas.  I've added the ability to right-click an individual
message and support for reporting to multiple servers on my TO DO
list.

On 8/31/06, Rick Macdougall <ri...@ummm-beer.com> wrote:
> 1) I can't find a readme or notes file
>
> 2) You should mention somewhere that the -l switch is needed to spamd
> (it's not mentioned in the Mail::SpamAssassin or
> Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf or the Wiki.

Source files and README available at:
http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/soc2006spamd/.  I was unaware that
the -l switch was needed, but I'll add it into the README.

On 8/31/06, Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net> wrote:
> Since this is google/summer of code stuff, its licensed under BSD2.0,
> right?
> If someone wanted to add on to code, say to add 'whitelist sender',
> 'blacklist sender', and 'report spam', the sources will be published,
> right?

This project is licensed under the Apache License Version 2.0.  If you
would like to contribute to this project, please feel free.  I can
even add you as a developer to the SourceForge project.  However, as
far as I know, there is no protocol to add a whitelist or blacklist
sender.

On 9/1/06, Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net> wrote:
> XP sp2, outlook 2002, sp2.
>
> Upon leaving outlook, get "ok disconnection" popup.
>
> Did uninstall, outlook 2002, sp3, spamassassin coach buttons still on
> menu. Can't get rid of them.

Sorry, that was an old debug message I accidentally left in.  I
removed it from the latest source files, but I'm not able to compile a
new Outlook binary just yet.  The SpamAssassin Coach button remaining
in the toolbar is a known bug (see the README).  To remove it, just
reset the toolbar.

There are a lot of small problems with the Outlook version.  My hope
is to port the entire add-in from C# to Visual Basic to get rid of
many of the bugs.

On 9/1/06, carinus.carelse@mrc.ac.za <ca...@mrc.ac.za> wrote:
> I am using it now I have noticed that it doesn't seem to work with outlook
> 2003 service pack 2 but service pack 1 is fine.

What exactly doesn't work?  Is the toolbar there but it doesn't report
any spam?  Please provide more details and I'll gladly look into it.

On 9/1/06, Chr. v. Stuckrad <st...@mi.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Do you see a chance to backport(or just 'allow') it
> for firefox down to Version 1.0.4?

The extension model was changed with the release of
Firefox/Thunderbird version 1.5.  I'll look into possibly creating a
seperate extension for Thunderbird 1.0.

On 9/1/06, Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net> wrote:
> Thurderbird version hangs thunderbird on my mac.
> highlight 'learn as spam'
> drop down 'options box'
> enter something in options box (username, change ip address)
> you can't get out of it.  There is  no close box, nothing.

Its actually not hanging, all you have to do is hit Escape.  For the
life of me, I couldn't figure out how to get OK/Cancel buttons on the
Mac version!  The code is the same for all platforms, but in Windows
there are OK/Cancel buttons and in the Mac version there are not.  If
anyone can get to the bottom of this, please let me know.

On 9/1/06, Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net> wrote:
> on 'forget', did you mean for these to product different header lines?
>
> TELL SPAMC/1.3
> Content-length: 2214
> User: spamtrap@secnap.net
> Message-class: spam
> Set: local
>
>
> TELL SPAMC/1.3
> Content-length: 3245
> User: munged@secnap.net
> Remove: local

I'm not exactly sure what to make of this.  The spamd protocol is
available for viewing at
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/spamd/PROTOCOL?view=markup.

Once again, thanks for all of your support!

Will Duff

Re: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin

[SECNAP Network Security <se...@secnap.net>]

Justin Mason wrote:
>
> Bowie Bailey writes:
> > Will Duff wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I've been working with SpamAssassin for the course of Google's Summer
> > > of Code to create 'SpamAssassin Coach' - an add-in available for
> > > Mozilla Thunderbird and Microsoft Outlook.  The purpose of the add-in
> > > is to allow users to report spam and ham to SpamAssassin right from
> > > their inbox.
> > >
> > > Both add-ins are now functional, so I am asking for testers to provide
> > > feedback, bug reports and the like.  If you would like to test an
> > > add-in, you can download SpamAssassin Coach from my SourceForge.net
> > > page at http://sourceforge.net/projects/soc2006spamd/.  Feel free to
> > > add bug reports, feature requests or email me directly at willduff
> > > *AT* gmail.com.
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/soc2006spamd/ Google Summer of Code
> > > Application Info:
> > > http://code.google.com/soc/asf/appinfo.html?csaid=DF01D8A7A5E102D7
> >
> > Interesting idea, but I need to see some documentation on how it works
> > before I'm going to download and install it.
>
> Well, it looks like the source is available at
> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/soc2006spamd/ .
>
> This is great -- thanks Will -- it's great to have tools like these
> finally available under an open source license!
>
I have source to sa-learnd to contribute under APACHE license 2.0.
It is for amavisd-new users who want to try this.
(you start sa-learnd & instead of spamd)
SEEMS to work.

any takers? seems work (ok, with one issue during installation on
thunderbird)

> --j.
>
>

Re: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin

[Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>]

> I don't believe OE has an API accessible like LookOut and Thunderbird do.

It doesn't.  But that doesn't mean its impossible to do, just harder.

The PGP stuff has a "plugin" for OE that allows it to sign messages after 
you compose them, adn to encrypt and decrypt messages.  It also adds menus 
and toolbars to deal with this stuff easily.

The code to deal with that stuff is ugly, but it is on SourceForge (or some 
such) and I think is GPL.

It probably wouldn't be all THAT hard to take the PGP interface code and 
strip it down for some other use such as this.

        Loren

Re: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin

[Rick Macdougall <ri...@ummm-beer.com>]

Rob McEwen wrote:
> RE: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin 
> 
> Any chance that an Outlook Express version might be forthcoming?
> 
> I know that many of the Unix admins on this list hate any thing Microsoft
> produces and probably especially Outlook Express... but the fact is that a
> very large percentage of people use Outlook Express and it would be great to
> have a "SpamAssassin Coach" for Outlook Express as well.
> 
> --Rob McEwen
> 
> 

Hi,

I don't believe OE has an API accessible like LookOut and Thunderbird do.

I think it's the same story as the razor tools for LookOut that aren't 
available to OE.

Regards,

Rick

Re: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin

[Theo Van Dinter <fe...@apache.org>]

On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 03:44:03PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote:
> > Any chance that an Outlook Express version might be forthcoming?
> in my experience, the problem is that OE mangles the message too much.

Does OE even allow for plugins?

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RE: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin

[Rob McEwen <ro...@powerviewsystems.com>]

RE: SpamAssassin Coach - Outlook/Thunderbird Plugin 

Any chance that an Outlook Express version might be forthcoming?

I know that many of the Unix admins on this list hate any thing Microsoft
produces and probably especially Outlook Express... but the fact is that a
very large percentage of people use Outlook Express and it would be great to
have a "SpamAssassin Coach" for Outlook Express as well.

--Rob McEwen