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Posted to server-dev@james.apache.org by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com> on 2005/07/27 20:48:35 UTC
FW: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
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--- Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: A mailing list for discussion of the JavaMail(tm) API
[mailto:JAVAMAIL-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM]On Behalf Of bill.shannon@SUN.COM
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 14:28
To: JAVAMAIL-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Subject: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
As we announced at JavaOne, Sun has released its J2EE (now called "Java EE")
application server as an open source project on java.net. The project is
called GlassFish and you can find out more at http://glassfish.dev.java.net.
GlassFish is available under the CDDL open source license.
GlassFish contains JavaMail and JAF, so the source code for both is
available under CDDL as well. GlassFish currently contains JAF 1.1ea
and a version of JavaMail slightly newer than 1.3.3ea.
Right now, JavaMail and JAF are only built as part of a GlassFish build.
Eventually I hope to improve the build system so that the standalone
releases of JavaMail and JAF can be built from the GlassFish source
base. (Unfortunately, I have about 100 other more important things to
do before I get to that.)
Those of you looking for source code for debugging purposes, or with
a need to improve JavaMail for your own use, should start with the
GlassFish source. You'll need to be a java.net member and you'll
need to accept the terms of the CDDL license, but note that CDDL is
an OSI-approved Open Source license (it's the same license used by
OpenSolaris, and a derivative of the Mozilla Public License) so you're
free to use it in many ways that were previously restricted.
If you make improvements to JavaMail or JAF, and would like give
those improvements back to Sun (which you're not required to do),
you'll need to sign a Sun Contributor Agreement so that we're sure
you have to rights to give us what you're giving us. (Signing the
SCA once allows you to contribute to any Sun open source project,
including GlassFish, OpenSolaris, NetBeans, etc.)
Note that improvements to the JavaMail and JAF APIs (the javax.* APIs)
need to be approved by the JCP.
Enjoy the latest JavaMail and JAF source, and please be patient as
we transition our build and release processes to java.net.
The JavaMail Team
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Re: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
Posted by Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org>.
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
> On Jul 27, 2005, at 4:21 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
>> Is there a build in a Maven repo? Are we allowed to distribute it
>> as part of Geronimo, given that it's under the CDDL?
>
>
> What's wrong with ours? :)
>
There are probably bugs and we don't have the transports (but I don't
know GlassFish does either).
OTOH, there is something to be said for having two independent
implementations of the specification so that we can highlight
ambiguities etc.
--
Jeremy
Re: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Jul 27, 2005, at 4:21 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> Is there a build in a Maven repo? Are we allowed to distribute it
> as part of Geronimo, given that it's under the CDDL?
What's wrong with ours? :)
We should have no problem distributing CDDL binaries. At some point,
I expect we'll have no problems taking in CDDL code into our repo
either to continue with...
geir
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>
>> FYI. Do not cross-post replies.
>>
>> --- Noel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A mailing list for discussion of the JavaMail(tm) API
>> [mailto:JAVAMAIL-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM]On Behalf Of
>> bill.shannon@SUN.COM
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 14:28
>> To: JAVAMAIL-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
>> Subject: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
>>
>>
>> As we announced at JavaOne, Sun has released its J2EE (now called
>> "Java EE")
>> application server as an open source project on java.net. The
>> project is
>> called GlassFish and you can find out more at http://
>> glassfish.dev.java.net.
>> GlassFish is available under the CDDL open source license.
>>
>> GlassFish contains JavaMail and JAF, so the source code for both is
>> available under CDDL as well. GlassFish currently contains JAF 1.1ea
>> and a version of JavaMail slightly newer than 1.3.3ea.
>>
>> Right now, JavaMail and JAF are only built as part of a GlassFish
>> build.
>> Eventually I hope to improve the build system so that the standalone
>> releases of JavaMail and JAF can be built from the GlassFish source
>> base. (Unfortunately, I have about 100 other more important
>> things to
>> do before I get to that.)
>>
>> Those of you looking for source code for debugging purposes, or with
>> a need to improve JavaMail for your own use, should start with the
>> GlassFish source. You'll need to be a java.net member and you'll
>> need to accept the terms of the CDDL license, but note that CDDL is
>> an OSI-approved Open Source license (it's the same license used by
>> OpenSolaris, and a derivative of the Mozilla Public License) so
>> you're
>> free to use it in many ways that were previously restricted.
>>
>> If you make improvements to JavaMail or JAF, and would like give
>> those improvements back to Sun (which you're not required to do),
>> you'll need to sign a Sun Contributor Agreement so that we're sure
>> you have to rights to give us what you're giving us. (Signing the
>> SCA once allows you to contribute to any Sun open source project,
>> including GlassFish, OpenSolaris, NetBeans, etc.)
>>
>> Note that improvements to the JavaMail and JAF APIs (the javax.*
>> APIs)
>> need to be approved by the JCP.
>>
>> Enjoy the latest JavaMail and JAF source, and please be patient as
>> we transition our build and release processes to java.net.
>>
>> The JavaMail Team
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: FW: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
Is there a build in a Maven repo? Are we allowed to distribute it
as part of Geronimo, given that it's under the CDDL?
Thanks,
Aaron
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> FYI. Do not cross-post replies.
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list for discussion of the JavaMail(tm) API
> [mailto:JAVAMAIL-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM]On Behalf Of bill.shannon@SUN.COM
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 14:28
> To: JAVAMAIL-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
> Subject: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
>
>
> As we announced at JavaOne, Sun has released its J2EE (now called "Java EE")
> application server as an open source project on java.net. The project is
> called GlassFish and you can find out more at http://glassfish.dev.java.net.
> GlassFish is available under the CDDL open source license.
>
> GlassFish contains JavaMail and JAF, so the source code for both is
> available under CDDL as well. GlassFish currently contains JAF 1.1ea
> and a version of JavaMail slightly newer than 1.3.3ea.
>
> Right now, JavaMail and JAF are only built as part of a GlassFish build.
> Eventually I hope to improve the build system so that the standalone
> releases of JavaMail and JAF can be built from the GlassFish source
> base. (Unfortunately, I have about 100 other more important things to
> do before I get to that.)
>
> Those of you looking for source code for debugging purposes, or with
> a need to improve JavaMail for your own use, should start with the
> GlassFish source. You'll need to be a java.net member and you'll
> need to accept the terms of the CDDL license, but note that CDDL is
> an OSI-approved Open Source license (it's the same license used by
> OpenSolaris, and a derivative of the Mozilla Public License) so you're
> free to use it in many ways that were previously restricted.
>
> If you make improvements to JavaMail or JAF, and would like give
> those improvements back to Sun (which you're not required to do),
> you'll need to sign a Sun Contributor Agreement so that we're sure
> you have to rights to give us what you're giving us. (Signing the
> SCA once allows you to contribute to any Sun open source project,
> including GlassFish, OpenSolaris, NetBeans, etc.)
>
> Note that improvements to the JavaMail and JAF APIs (the javax.* APIs)
> need to be approved by the JCP.
>
> Enjoy the latest JavaMail and JAF source, and please be patient as
> we transition our build and release processes to java.net.
>
> The JavaMail Team
>
>
Re: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
Posted by Mike Heath <mh...@avaloninc.com>.
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 09:02 +0100, Danny Angus wrote:
<snip>
> But first I guess we need to know the implications of the licence.
>
> Anyone any ideas, or should this go to legal-discuss?
I think it should especially since the implications of the CDDL with
regard to ASF doesn't appear to have been discussed in legal-discuss.
The only thing I'm sure of with the CDDL is that it's not GPL
compatible.
-Mike
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Re: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
Posted by Danny Angus <Da...@slc.co.uk>.
It is important that you don;t read the sources released under a
restrictive licence if you intend to implement the same or similar
functionality here.
I hope that this announcement means we can look at java mail and make the
changes we wanted.
But first I guess we need to know the implications of the licence.
Anyone any ideas, or should this go to legal-discuss?
d.
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Re: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!
Posted by Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>.
> Those of you looking for source code for debugging purposes,
> or with a need to improve JavaMail for your own use, should
> start with the GlassFish source. You'll need to be a
> java.net member and you'll need to accept the terms of the
> CDDL license, but note that CDDL is an OSI-approved Open
> Source license (it's the same license used by OpenSolaris,
> and a derivative of the Mozilla Public License) so you're
> free to use it in many ways that were previously restricted.
Does this allow us to put javamail/jaf jars in svn and distribute javamail
and jaf jars with james sources?
And more: sources for both packages were already available throught the
java.sun.com website and this message is only about the "ea" versions,
right?
Stefano
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