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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org> on 2016/10/07 09:46:25 UTC
[DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Hi all,
as recently noticed during the (unfortunately rejected) patch for
COCOON-2354 [1], it might make sense to upgrade the current minimum JDK
requirement for Cocoon 2.1 from 1.4 to 1.5, mainly to ease some upgrades
and help Cocoon 2.1 living in the modern world.
Besides 3rd part library updates, some work could be needed to upgrade
our Java code, so help would be appreciated.
WDYT?
Regards.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 10/10/2016 19:28, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> +1 for 1.5.
>
> If in the future we have the need to move to a more recent version (ie:
> because a patch), then we should discuss it.
Hi,
we *are* discussing exactly that.
At the moment we have a couple of patches on hold, for COCOON-2354 and
COCOON-2352.
Since it seems to me that there is enough consensus to move on, I will
open a new issue for setting the compatibility to JDK 1.5 (at least for
the moment) so that we can move on and accept the two patches above.
Regards.
> On 07/10/16 03:46, Francesco Chicchiricc� wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> as recently noticed during the (unfortunately rejected) patch for
>> COCOON-2354 [1], it might make sense to upgrade the current minimum
>> JDK requirement for Cocoon 2.1 from 1.4 to 1.5, mainly to ease some
>> upgrades and help Cocoon 2.1 living in the modern world.
>>
>> Besides 3rd part library updates, some work could be needed to upgrade
>> our Java code, so help would be appreciated.
>>
>> WDYT?
>> Regards.
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c03a2390ddd45b801a25e9946a492766936528700000f4f4fbe732d8@%3Cdev.cocoon.apache.org%3E
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <an...@apache.org>.
Hi folks,
+1 for 1.5.
If in the future we have the need to move to a more recent version (ie:
because a patch), then we should discuss it.
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo.
On 07/10/16 03:46, Francesco Chicchiricc� wrote:
> Hi all,
> as recently noticed during the (unfortunately rejected) patch for
> COCOON-2354 [1], it might make sense to upgrade the current minimum
> JDK requirement for Cocoon 2.1 from 1.4 to 1.5, mainly to ease some
> upgrades and help Cocoon 2.1 living in the modern world.
>
> Besides 3rd part library updates, some work could be needed to upgrade
> our Java code, so help would be appreciated.
>
> WDYT?
> Regards.
>
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c03a2390ddd45b801a25e9946a492766936528700000f4f4fbe732d8@%3Cdev.cocoon.apache.org%3E
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
FYI,
another applied patch that we should reject instead, because it requires
1.5:
https://builds.apache.org/job/Cocoon%202.1.X/111/console
On 08/10/2016 13:14, Francesco Chicchiricc� wrote:
> Wow, did not expect this...
> To be clear, are you proposing to move to 1.8 the binary AND source compatibility?
>
> Even wilder: how would you see moving the 2_1_X branch to GIT with github integration, thus allowing us accepting pull requests?
>
> We'll definitely need some help here...
> Regards.
>
> Il 8 ottobre 2016 06:43:06 CEST, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> ha scritto:
>> I agree. It should also enable better participation at both Cocoon
>> and at Apache Forrest. There were also many supporting products
>> that could then be updated. Lets go to 8.
>>
>> -David
>>
>> Insight 49 wrote:
>>> +1, and I strongly agree with Alfred.
>>>
>>> Cocoon 2.1 is a good stable platform, but doesn't encourage new
>>> participation, partly I suspect, because many people and businesses
>>> run Java 8 or 7 (as you know, you get all kinds of build errors when
>>> trying to build cocoon using those Java versions).
>>>
>>> If we can upgrade the code, classes and supporting jars, I'd
>> recommend
>>> Java version 7 or 8.
>>>
>>> As an example, the very successful Apache Solr search uses Java 8!
>>>
>>> "You will need the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) version 1.8 or
>> higher."
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Installing+Solr
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/7/16, Nathaniel, Alfred <Al...@six-group.com> wrote:
>>>> +1 but I would go straight to 6, 7, or even 8.
>>>> Past experience is that it is a real nuisance trying to support an
>> ancient
>>>> JDK no developer is actually using anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Alfred.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Francesco Chicchiricc� [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Freitag, 7. Oktober 2016 11:46
>>>> To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> as recently noticed during the (unfortunately rejected) patch for
>>>> COCOON-2354 [1], it might make sense to upgrade the current minimum
>> JDK
>>>> requirement for Cocoon 2.1 from 1.4 to 1.5, mainly to ease some
>> upgrades
>>>> and help Cocoon 2.1 living in the modern world.
>>>>
>>>> Besides 3rd part library updates, some work could be needed to
>> upgrade
>>>> our Java code, so help would be appreciated.
>
--
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http://www.tirasa.net/
Member at The Apache Software Foundation
Syncope, Cocoon, Olingo, CXF, OpenJPA, PonyMail
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
Wow, did not expect this...
To be clear, are you proposing to move to 1.8 the binary AND source compatibility?
Even wilder: how would you see moving the 2_1_X branch to GIT with github integration, thus allowing us accepting pull requests?
We'll definitely need some help here...
Regards.
Il 8 ottobre 2016 06:43:06 CEST, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> ha scritto:
>I agree. It should also enable better participation at both Cocoon
>and at Apache Forrest. There were also many supporting products
>that could then be updated. Lets go to 8.
>
>-David
>
>Insight 49 wrote:
>> +1, and I strongly agree with Alfred.
>>
>> Cocoon 2.1 is a good stable platform, but doesn't encourage new
>> participation, partly I suspect, because many people and businesses
>> run Java 8 or 7 (as you know, you get all kinds of build errors when
>> trying to build cocoon using those Java versions).
>>
>> If we can upgrade the code, classes and supporting jars, I'd
>recommend
>> Java version 7 or 8.
>>
>> As an example, the very successful Apache Solr search uses Java 8!
>>
>> "You will need the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) version 1.8 or
>higher."
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Installing+Solr
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On 10/7/16, Nathaniel, Alfred <Al...@six-group.com> wrote:
>> > +1 but I would go straight to 6, 7, or even 8.
>> > Past experience is that it is a real nuisance trying to support an
>ancient
>> > JDK no developer is actually using anymore.
>> >
>> > Cheers, Alfred.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Francesco Chicchiricc� [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
>> > Sent: Freitag, 7. Oktober 2016 11:46
>> > To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
>> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> > as recently noticed during the (unfortunately rejected) patch for
>> > COCOON-2354 [1], it might make sense to upgrade the current minimum
>JDK
>> > requirement for Cocoon 2.1 from 1.4 to 1.5, mainly to ease some
>upgrades
>> > and help Cocoon 2.1 living in the modern world.
>> >
>> > Besides 3rd part library updates, some work could be needed to
>upgrade
>> > our Java code, so help would be appreciated.
>>
--
Francesco Chicchiricc�
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
Member at The Apache Software Foundation Syncope, Cocoon, Olingo, CXF, OpenJPA, PonyMail
http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
I agree. It should also enable better participation at both Cocoon
and at Apache Forrest. There were also many supporting products
that could then be updated. Lets go to 8.
-David
Insight 49 wrote:
> +1, and I strongly agree with Alfred.
>
> Cocoon 2.1 is a good stable platform, but doesn't encourage new
> participation, partly I suspect, because many people and businesses
> run Java 8 or 7 (as you know, you get all kinds of build errors when
> trying to build cocoon using those Java versions).
>
> If we can upgrade the code, classes and supporting jars, I'd recommend
> Java version 7 or 8.
>
> As an example, the very successful Apache Solr search uses Java 8!
>
> "You will need the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) version 1.8 or higher."
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Installing+Solr
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 10/7/16, Nathaniel, Alfred <Al...@six-group.com> wrote:
> > +1 but I would go straight to 6, 7, or even 8.
> > Past experience is that it is a real nuisance trying to support an ancient
> > JDK no developer is actually using anymore.
> >
> > Cheers, Alfred.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Francesco Chicchiricc [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
> > Sent: Freitag, 7. Oktober 2016 11:46
> > To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
> >
> > Hi all,
> > as recently noticed during the (unfortunately rejected) patch for
> > COCOON-2354 [1], it might make sense to upgrade the current minimum JDK
> > requirement for Cocoon 2.1 from 1.4 to 1.5, mainly to ease some upgrades
> > and help Cocoon 2.1 living in the modern world.
> >
> > Besides 3rd part library updates, some work could be needed to upgrade
> > our Java code, so help would be appreciated.
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Posted by Insight 49 <in...@gmail.com>.
+1, and I strongly agree with Alfred.
Cocoon 2.1 is a good stable platform, but doesn't encourage new
participation, partly I suspect, because many people and businesses
run Java 8 or 7 (as you know, you get all kinds of build errors when
trying to build cocoon using those Java versions).
If we can upgrade the code, classes and supporting jars, I'd recommend
Java version 7 or 8.
As an example, the very successful Apache Solr search uses Java 8!
"You will need the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) version 1.8 or higher."
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Installing+Solr
Dan
On 10/7/16, Nathaniel, Alfred <Al...@six-group.com> wrote:
> +1 but I would go straight to 6, 7, or even 8.
> Past experience is that it is a real nuisance trying to support an ancient
> JDK no developer is actually using anymore.
>
> Cheers, Alfred.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
> Sent: Freitag, 7. Oktober 2016 11:46
> To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
>
> Hi all,
> as recently noticed during the (unfortunately rejected) patch for
> COCOON-2354 [1], it might make sense to upgrade the current minimum JDK
> requirement for Cocoon 2.1 from 1.4 to 1.5, mainly to ease some upgrades
> and help Cocoon 2.1 living in the modern world.
>
> Besides 3rd part library updates, some work could be needed to upgrade
> our Java code, so help would be appreciated.
RE: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Posted by "Nathaniel, Alfred" <Al...@six-group.com>.
+1 but I would go straight to 6, 7, or even 8.
Past experience is that it is a real nuisance trying to support an ancient JDK no developer is actually using anymore.
Cheers, Alfred.
-----Original Message-----
From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org]
Sent: Freitag, 7. Oktober 2016 11:46
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Set minimum JDK version to 1.5 for Cocoon 2.1
Hi all,
as recently noticed during the (unfortunately rejected) patch for
COCOON-2354 [1], it might make sense to upgrade the current minimum JDK
requirement for Cocoon 2.1 from 1.4 to 1.5, mainly to ease some upgrades
and help Cocoon 2.1 living in the modern world.
Besides 3rd part library updates, some work could be needed to upgrade
our Java code, so help would be appreciated.
WDYT?
Regards.
[1]
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--
Francesco Chicchiriccò
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
Member at The Apache Software Foundation
Syncope, Cocoon, Olingo, CXF, OpenJPA, PonyMail
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