You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@avalon.apache.org by Paul Hammant <Pa...@yahoo.com> on 2001/10/22 13:51:40 UTC
PDK - V1
I've pushed up the first Phoenix developer kit.
It's a socket server and a client that pass a String via
ObjectIn/OutputStream between each other. It does not depend on
Cornerstone components. I guess with comments we can hint that that
(and other thigs) might be better ways of doing things.
Phoenix has a new target "make-pdk". That zip can be taken by a newbie
and used as a basis for development. The Ant script that the PDK
contains is very simple and based on Ant 1.4.1 rather than our forked
version.
The server can run in standalone mode - most newbies have their own
mainable server already are are likely to resist a complete migration to
Phoenix at the outset. The server can also run as block inside a SAR
(the whole point). The client does not care which it speaks to .... as
long as the correct port is specified.
Regards,
- Paul H
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: avalon-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: avalon-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: PDK - V1
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Paul Hammant wrote:
>
> Berin,
>
> >I would like to see a PDK that uses all the pieces of Avalon together.
> >That way, people can see practically what it can do for them. Is this
> >an archive people can download from the distributions directory?
> >
> That's an idea, but I am fairly convinced thate people find the whole of
> Avalon too daunting. When we demo threadpool, connection manager,
> socket handler usage, they get lost. With this demo, it's all self
> contained. I think we should refer then to the cornerstone examples
> (via inline comments). I.e. the point is to get them on-board, then one
> by one introduce other features of Excalibur, Logkit, Phoenix etc.
>
> Just my opinion, of course, and subject to outvoting by others.
It helps when there is a developer's guide like the one on the web site
(PDF version to be committed soon...)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: avalon-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: avalon-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: PDK - V1
Posted by Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:29, Paul Hammant wrote:
> Berin,
>
> >I would like to see a PDK that uses all the pieces of Avalon together.
> >That way, people can see practically what it can do for them. Is this
> >an archive people can download from the distributions directory?
>
> That's an idea, but I am fairly convinced thate people find the whole of
> Avalon too daunting. When we demo threadpool, connection manager,
> socket handler usage, they get lost. With this demo, it's all self
> contained. I think we should refer then to the cornerstone examples
> (via inline comments). I.e. the point is to get them on-board, then one
> by one introduce other features of Excalibur, Logkit, Phoenix etc.
>
> Just my opinion, of course, and subject to outvoting by others.
Naah - I agree. As it stands it is a bit big. I have really really really
wanted to rework the excalibur system so you could distribute single packages
at a time. As it stands now there is lots of kool stuff in it but because it
is all in one big jar most people will never look at it because it is just
too much.
--
Cheers,
Pete
"abandon all hope , ye who enter here" - dante, inferno
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: avalon-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: avalon-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: PDK - V1
Posted by Paul Hammant <Pa...@yahoo.com>.
Berin,
>I would like to see a PDK that uses all the pieces of Avalon together.
>That way, people can see practically what it can do for them. Is this
>an archive people can download from the distributions directory?
>
That's an idea, but I am fairly convinced thate people find the whole of
Avalon too daunting. When we demo threadpool, connection manager,
socket handler usage, they get lost. With this demo, it's all self
contained. I think we should refer then to the cornerstone examples
(via inline comments). I.e. the point is to get them on-board, then one
by one introduce other features of Excalibur, Logkit, Phoenix etc.
Just my opinion, of course, and subject to outvoting by others.
Regards,
- Paul H
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: avalon-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: avalon-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: PDK - V1
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Paul Hammant wrote:
>
> I've pushed up the first Phoenix developer kit.
>
> It's a socket server and a client that pass a String via
> ObjectIn/OutputStream between each other. It does not depend on
> Cornerstone components. I guess with comments we can hint that that
> (and other thigs) might be better ways of doing things.
I would like to see a PDK that uses all the pieces of Avalon together.
That way, people can see practically what it can do for them. Is this
an archive people can download from the distributions directory?
>
> Phoenix has a new target "make-pdk". That zip can be taken by a newbie
> and used as a basis for development. The Ant script that the PDK
> contains is very simple and based on Ant 1.4.1 rather than our forked
> version.
>
> The server can run in standalone mode - most newbies have their own
> mainable server already are are likely to resist a complete migration to
> Phoenix at the outset. The server can also run as block inside a SAR
> (the whole point). The client does not care which it speaks to .... as
> long as the correct port is specified.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Paul H
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: avalon-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: avalon-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: avalon-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: avalon-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org