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Re: Apache Spark - Spark Structured Streaming - Watermark usage

Hi Vishu/Jacek:
Thanks for your responses.
Jacek - At the moment, the current time for my use case is processing time.

Vishnu - Spark documentation (https://spark.apache.org/docs/latest/structured-streaming-programming-guide.html) does indicate that it can dedup using watermark.  So I believe there are more use cases for watermark and that is what I am trying to find.
I am hoping that TD can clarify or point me to the documentation.
Thanks
 

    On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 AM, Vishnu Viswanath <vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Hi Mans,
Watermark is Spark is used to decide when to clear the state, so if the even it delayed more than when the state is cleared by Spark, then it will be ignored.I recently wrote a blog post on this : http://vishnuviswanath.com/spark_structured_streaming.html#watermark

Yes, this State is applicable for aggregation only. If you are having only a map function and don't want to process it, you could do a filter based on its EventTime field, but I guess you will have to compare it with the processing time since there is no API to access Watermark by the user. 
-Vishnu
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:14 PM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

Hi:
I am trying to filter out records which are lagging behind (based on event time) by a certain amount of time.  
Is the watermark api applicable to this scenario (ie, filtering lagging records) or it is only applicable with aggregation ?  I could not get a clear understanding from the documentation which only refers to it's usage with aggregation.

Thanks
Mans



   

Re: Apache Spark - Spark Structured Streaming - Watermark usage

Posted by M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi Jacek:
Thanks for your response.
I am just trying to understand the fundamentals of watermarking and how it behaves in aggregation vs non-aggregation scenarios.



 

    On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:04 AM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
 

 Hi,
What would you expect? The data is simply dropped as that's the purpose of watermarking it. That's my understanding at least.
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On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:11 PM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Just checking if anyone has more details on how watermark works in cases where event time is earlier than processing time stamp. 

    On Friday, February 2, 2018 8:47 AM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

 Hi Vishu/Jacek:
Thanks for your responses.
Jacek - At the moment, the current time for my use case is processing time.

Vishnu - Spark documentation (https://spark.apache.org/ docs/latest/structured- streaming-programming-guide. html) does indicate that it can dedup using watermark.  So I believe there are more use cases for watermark and that is what I am trying to find.
I am hoping that TD can clarify or point me to the documentation.
Thanks
 

    On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 AM, Vishnu Viswanath <vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Hi Mans,
Watermark is Spark is used to decide when to clear the state, so if the even it delayed more than when the state is cleared by Spark, then it will be ignored.I recently wrote a blog post on this : http://vishnuviswanath.com/ spark_structured_streaming. html#watermark

Yes, this State is applicable for aggregation only. If you are having only a map function and don't want to process it, you could do a filter based on its EventTime field, but I guess you will have to compare it with the processing time since there is no API to access Watermark by the user. 
-Vishnu
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:14 PM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

Hi:
I am trying to filter out records which are lagging behind (based on event time) by a certain amount of time.  
Is the watermark api applicable to this scenario (ie, filtering lagging records) or it is only applicable with aggregation ?  I could not get a clear understanding from the documentation which only refers to it's usage with aggregation.

Thanks
Mans



   

   



   

Re: Apache Spark - Spark Structured Streaming - Watermark usage

Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>.
Hi,

What would you expect? The data is simply dropped as that's the purpose of
watermarking it. That's my understanding at least.

Pozdrawiam,
Jacek Laskowski
----
https://about.me/JacekLaskowski
Mastering Spark SQL https://bit.ly/mastering-spark-sql
Spark Structured Streaming https://bit.ly/spark-structured-streaming
Mastering Kafka Streams https://bit.ly/mastering-kafka-streams
Follow me at https://twitter.com/jaceklaskowski

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:11 PM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just checking if anyone has more details on how watermark works in cases
> where event time is earlier than processing time stamp.
>
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2018 8:47 AM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Vishu/Jacek:
>
> Thanks for your responses.
>
> Jacek - At the moment, the current time for my use case is processing time.
>
> Vishnu - Spark documentation (https://spark.apache.org/
> docs/latest/structured-streaming-programming-guide.html) does indicate
> that it can dedup using watermark.  So I believe there are more use cases
> for watermark and that is what I am trying to find.
>
> I am hoping that TD can clarify or point me to the documentation.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 AM, Vishnu Viswanath <
> vishnu.viswanath25@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mans,
>
> Watermark is Spark is used to decide when to clear the state, so if the
> even it delayed more than when the state is cleared by Spark, then it will
> be ignored.
> I recently wrote a blog post on this : http://vishnuviswanath.com/
> spark_structured_streaming.html#watermark
>
> Yes, this State is applicable for aggregation only. If you are having only
> a map function and don't want to process it, you could do a filter based on
> its EventTime field, but I guess you will have to compare it with the
> processing time since there is no API to access Watermark by the user.
>
> -Vishnu
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:14 PM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> I am trying to filter out records which are lagging behind (based on event
> time) by a certain amount of time.
>
> Is the watermark api applicable to this scenario (ie, filtering lagging
> records) or it is only applicable with aggregation ?  I could not get a
> clear understanding from the documentation which only refers to it's usage
> with aggregation.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mans
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Apache Spark - Spark Structured Streaming - Watermark usage

Posted by M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Just checking if anyone has more details on how watermark works in cases where event time is earlier than processing time stamp. 

    On Friday, February 2, 2018 8:47 AM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

 Hi Vishu/Jacek:
Thanks for your responses.
Jacek - At the moment, the current time for my use case is processing time.

Vishnu - Spark documentation (https://spark.apache.org/docs/latest/structured-streaming-programming-guide.html) does indicate that it can dedup using watermark.  So I believe there are more use cases for watermark and that is what I am trying to find.
I am hoping that TD can clarify or point me to the documentation.
Thanks
 

    On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 AM, Vishnu Viswanath <vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Hi Mans,
Watermark is Spark is used to decide when to clear the state, so if the even it delayed more than when the state is cleared by Spark, then it will be ignored.I recently wrote a blog post on this : http://vishnuviswanath.com/spark_structured_streaming.html#watermark

Yes, this State is applicable for aggregation only. If you are having only a map function and don't want to process it, you could do a filter based on its EventTime field, but I guess you will have to compare it with the processing time since there is no API to access Watermark by the user. 
-Vishnu
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:14 PM, M Singh <ma...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

Hi:
I am trying to filter out records which are lagging behind (based on event time) by a certain amount of time.  
Is the watermark api applicable to this scenario (ie, filtering lagging records) or it is only applicable with aggregation ?  I could not get a clear understanding from the documentation which only refers to it's usage with aggregation.

Thanks
Mans