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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com> on 2014/05/26 14:26:15 UTC
[ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
LS,
When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have
no option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the
total sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent
lapsing even more in time without risking reduced quality of our next
release.
So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the
19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move
code freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be
necessary.
--
Daan
Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com>.
On May 29, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Mike Tutkowski <mi...@solidfire.com> wrote:
> In an effort to help keep our releases from getting out of hand, I think we
> should consider moving the Feature Proposal deadline up, as well.
>
> My main concern is that many people have three CloudStack-related "threads"
> executing right now, though:
>
> 1) People are still testing 4.4.
>
> 2) People are developing for 4.5.
>
> 3) People are now expected to think in detail earlier about the features
> they'd like to place in 4.6.
And 4.3 bugs are not being fixed...
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> That is what I want with this thread, yes. Please counter propose or
>> amend as you like.
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Marcus <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Perhaps we need to review/replace the release plan as a whole, find
>>> something that will get us on track and keep us on track.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogland@gmail.com
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal to
>>>>
>>>> 1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next
>> release.
>>>> 2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of June
>>>>
>>>> flames? other thoughts?
>>>> Daan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Daan for the clarification!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
>>>>> To: dev
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>>>>>
>>>>> What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to
>>>> move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the
>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal <
>> rsabharw@brocade.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target
>>>> is moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>> Ritu S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
>>>>>> To: dev
>>>>>> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LS,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have
>> no
>>>> option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
>>>>>> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the
>> total
>>>> sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even
>>>> more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
>>>>>> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the
>>>> 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move
>> code
>>>> freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be
>> necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Daan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daan
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daan
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Mike Tutkowski*
> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> o: 303.746.7302
> Advancing the way the world uses the
> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> *™*
Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Mike Tutkowski <mi...@solidfire.com>.
In an effort to help keep our releases from getting out of hand, I think we
should consider moving the Feature Proposal deadline up, as well.
My main concern is that many people have three CloudStack-related "threads"
executing right now, though:
1) People are still testing 4.4.
2) People are developing for 4.5.
3) People are now expected to think in detail earlier about the features
they'd like to place in 4.6.
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>wrote:
> That is what I want with this thread, yes. Please counter propose or
> amend as you like.
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Marcus <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Perhaps we need to review/replace the release plan as a whole, find
> > something that will get us on track and keep us on track.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogland@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal to
> >>
> >> 1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next
> release.
> >> 2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of June
> >>
> >> flames? other thoughts?
> >> Daan
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Thanks Daan for the clarification!
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
> >> > To: dev
> >> > Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >> >
> >> > What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to
> >> move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the
> release.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal <
> rsabharw@brocade.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target
> >> is moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks & Regards,
> >> >> Ritu S.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
> >> >> To: dev
> >> >> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >> >>
> >> >> LS,
> >> >>
> >> >> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have
> no
> >> option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
> >> >> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the
> total
> >> sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even
> >> more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
> >> >> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the
> >> 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move
> code
> >> freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be
> necessary.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Daan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Daan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daan
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Daan
>
--
*Mike Tutkowski*
*Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
o: 303.746.7302
Advancing the way the world uses the
cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
*™*
Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
That is what I want with this thread, yes. Please counter propose or
amend as you like.
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Marcus <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps we need to review/replace the release plan as a whole, find
> something that will get us on track and keep us on track.
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal to
>>
>> 1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next release.
>> 2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of June
>>
>> flames? other thoughts?
>> Daan
>>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks Daan for the clarification!
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
>> > To: dev
>> > Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>> >
>> > What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to
>> move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the release.
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target
>> is moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks & Regards,
>> >> Ritu S.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
>> >> To: dev
>> >> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>> >>
>> >> LS,
>> >>
>> >> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have no
>> option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
>> >> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the total
>> sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even
>> more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
>> >> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the
>> 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move code
>> freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be necessary.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Daan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Daan
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daan
>>
--
Daan
Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Marcus <sh...@gmail.com>.
Perhaps we need to review/replace the release plan as a whole, find
something that will get us on track and keep us on track.
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal to
>
> 1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next release.
> 2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of June
>
> flames? other thoughts?
> Daan
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Daan for the clarification!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
> > To: dev
> > Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >
> > What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to
> move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the release.
> >
> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com>
> wrote:
> >> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target
> is moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
> >>
> >> Thanks & Regards,
> >> Ritu S.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
> >> To: dev
> >> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >>
> >> LS,
> >>
> >> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have no
> option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
> >> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the total
> sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even
> more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
> >> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the
> 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move code
> freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be necessary.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daan
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daan
>
>
>
> --
> Daan
>
Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
<an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> In response to Brocade I see your response
>
> "feature should be done (in it's branch) by 19th july. merging and fixing issues may take to mid august" that essentially means feature freeze (cutting the branch) by mid august
it means code freeze at mid august., not feature freeze.
--
Daan
RE: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com>.
In response to Brocade I see your response
"feature should be done (in it's branch) by 19th july. merging and fixing issues may take to mid august" that essentially means feature freeze (cutting the branch) by mid august
Animesh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 2:07 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>
> I saw you mentioning mid august as well so there is some confusion
>
>
> Animesh
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 1:52 PM
> > To: dev
> > Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >
> > No certainly not, that would mean yet another bigger release and
> > another extra shift. It is now at 19 July And I was proposing to move
> > it forward to last 19th of june.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> > <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:45 AM
> > >> To: dev
> > >> Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> > >>
> > >> Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal
> > >> to
> > >>
> > >> 1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next
> > release.
> > >
> > >
> > > [Animesh] Daan to be clear you are proposing to keep the feature
> > > freeze date at Aug 19th
> > >
> > >
> > >> 2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of
> > >> June
> > >>
> > >> flames? other thoughts?
> > >> Daan
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal
> > >> <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> > >> > Thanks Daan for the clarification!
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
> > >> > To: dev
> > >> > Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature
> freeze
> > >> >
> > >> > What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need
> > >> > to
> > >> move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the
> > >> release.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal
> > >> <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> > >> >> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release
> > >> >> target is
> > >> moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks & Regards,
> > >> >> Ritu S.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > >> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
> > >> >> To: dev
> > >> >> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> > >> >>
> > >> >> LS,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we
> > >> >> have no
> > >> option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
> > >> >> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of
> > >> >> the total
> > >> sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing
> > >> even more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
> > >> >> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at
> > >> >> the
> > >> 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly
> > >> move code freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features
> > >> will
> > be necessary.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Daan
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Daan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Daan
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daan
RE: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com>.
I saw you mentioning mid august as well so there is some confusion
Animesh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 1:52 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>
> No certainly not, that would mean yet another bigger release and another
> extra shift. It is now at 19 July And I was proposing to move it forward to
> last 19th of june.
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:45 AM
> >> To: dev
> >> Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >>
> >> Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal to
> >>
> >> 1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next
> release.
> >
> >
> > [Animesh] Daan to be clear you are proposing to keep the feature
> > freeze date at Aug 19th
> >
> >
> >> 2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of
> >> June
> >>
> >> flames? other thoughts?
> >> Daan
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal
> >> <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> >> > Thanks Daan for the clarification!
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
> >> > To: dev
> >> > Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >> >
> >> > What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need
> >> > to
> >> move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the
> >> release.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal
> >> <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> >> >> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release
> >> >> target is
> >> moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks & Regards,
> >> >> Ritu S.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
> >> >> To: dev
> >> >> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >> >>
> >> >> LS,
> >> >>
> >> >> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we
> >> >> have no
> >> option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
> >> >> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the
> >> >> total
> >> sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing
> >> even more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
> >> >> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at
> >> >> the
> >> 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly
> >> move code freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will
> be necessary.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Daan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Daan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daan
>
>
>
> --
> Daan
Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
No certainly not, that would mean yet another bigger release and
another extra shift. It is now at 19 July And I was proposing to move
it forward to last 19th of june.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
<an...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:45 AM
>> To: dev
>> Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>>
>> Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal to
>>
>> 1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next release.
>
>
> [Animesh] Daan to be clear you are proposing to keep the feature freeze date at Aug 19th
>
>
>> 2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of June
>>
>> flames? other thoughts?
>> Daan
>>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal
>> <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks Daan for the clarification!
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
>> > To: dev
>> > Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>> >
>> > What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to
>> move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the
>> release.
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal
>> <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
>> >> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target is
>> moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks & Regards,
>> >> Ritu S.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
>> >> To: dev
>> >> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>> >>
>> >> LS,
>> >>
>> >> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have no
>> option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
>> >> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the total
>> sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even
>> more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
>> >> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the
>> 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move code
>> freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be necessary.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Daan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Daan
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daan
--
Daan
RE: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:45 AM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>
> Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal to
>
> 1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next release.
[Animesh] Daan to be clear you are proposing to keep the feature freeze date at Aug 19th
> 2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of June
>
> flames? other thoughts?
> Daan
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal
> <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Daan for the clarification!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
> > To: dev
> > Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >
> > What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to
> move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the
> release.
> >
> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal
> <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> >> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target is
> moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
> >>
> >> Thanks & Regards,
> >> Ritu S.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
> >> To: dev
> >> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
> >>
> >> LS,
> >>
> >> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have no
> option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
> >> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the total
> sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even
> more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
> >> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the
> 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move code
> freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be necessary.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daan
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daan
>
>
>
> --
> Daan
Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
Seeing what objections there might be I want to amend my proposal to
1. move forward feature freeze not on the coming but on the next release.
2. set feature proposal dealine for the coming release on 19th of June
flames? other thoughts?
Daan
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> Thanks Daan for the clarification!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>
> What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the release.
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
>> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target is moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> Ritu S.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
>> To: dev
>> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>>
>> LS,
>>
>> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have no option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
>> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the total sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
>> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move code freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be necessary.
>>
>> --
>> Daan
>
>
>
> --
> Daan
--
Daan
RE: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@Brocade.com>.
Thanks Daan for the clarification!
-----Original Message-----
From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:56 PM
To: dev
Subject: Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the release.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target is moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Ritu S.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
> To: dev
> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>
> LS,
>
> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have no option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the total sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move code freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be necessary.
>
> --
> Daan
--
Daan
Re: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
What I mean is that to prevent the date of oct '14 moving we need to
move the feature freeze forward. so we have more time to create the
release.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@brocade.com> wrote:
> When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target is moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Ritu S.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
> To: dev
> Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
>
> LS,
>
> When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have no option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
> This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the total sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
> So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move code freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be necessary.
>
> --
> Daan
--
Daan
RE: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
Posted by Ritu Sabharwal <rs...@Brocade.com>.
When you say release schedule shift, does it mean 4.5 release target is moved from Oct '14 to a forward date?
Thanks & Regards,
Ritu S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:26 AM
To: dev
Subject: [ACS45][ACS50][PROPOSAL] move forward feature freeze
LS,
When I seeing once again our release schedule shift, I think we have no option but to move feature freeze for the next release forward.
This is the only way it seems we can reduce the complexity of the total sum of changes. Therefore it is the only way we can prevent lapsing even more in time without risking reduced quality of our next release.
So I propose to move feature freeze forward by a month to be at the 19th of June (instead of July). I don't think we need to strictly move code freeze forward as well but vigilance onto added features will be necessary.
--
Daan