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Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Did there is Eclipse WTP developpers around  ?

Just in case of, when could we expect WTP to support Tomcat 6.0 (still
not the case in WTP 1.5.2).

The Definition for a new server runtime environment still miss TC 6.0 ;(


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RE: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com>.
Feel free to start a new thread on the Eclipse Web Tools
newsgroup (http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/) to ask
Eclipse related questions.  Currently in WTP, Tomcat
servers default to separate catalina.base and catalina.home.
The problem is that you don't get to choose the location for
catalina.base as it is assigned by the plug-in.  In
WTP 2.0, you will be able to specify the catalina.base
location.

Cheers,
Larry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William L. Thomson Jr. [mailto:wltjr@gentoo.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:35 AM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: RE: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> 
> Sorry to interrupt, and excuse my ignorance on the matter, I 
> am Netbeaner. However many are trying to use Eclipse with our 
> system installed Tomcat on Gentoo. Tomcat installed via 
> Gentoo ebuild, not a bundled one in Eclipse.
> 
> The biggest problem people run into is that the Eclipse 
> plugin does not respect CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME. It 
> expects them to be the same, when it's been a long time 
> design feature that they can be different.
> 
> Now by default Netbeans assumes they are the same, but does 
> allow one to specify both if they are different. The Tomcat 
> Eclipse plugin or etc seems to lack that ability. 
> 
> So if you are going to be improving the support or working on 
> it for future Tomcat releases. Would it be possible to 
> address the _BASE/_HOME issue at the same time.
> 
> Thanks and I know this is the wrong list for this. However, 
> since the discussion was taking place, felt it was some what 
> relevant. Thanks
> 
> --
> William L. Thomson Jr.
> Gentoo/Java
> 

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RE: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by "William L. Thomson Jr." <wl...@gentoo.org>.
Sorry to interrupt, and excuse my ignorance on the matter, I am
Netbeaner. However many are trying to use Eclipse with our system
installed Tomcat on Gentoo. Tomcat installed via Gentoo ebuild, not a
bundled one in Eclipse.

The biggest problem people run into is that the Eclipse plugin does not
respect CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME. It expects them to be the same,
when it's been a long time design feature that they can be different.

Now by default Netbeans assumes they are the same, but does allow one to
specify both if they are different. The Tomcat Eclipse plugin or etc
seems to lack that ability. 

So if you are going to be improving the support or working on it for
future Tomcat releases. Would it be possible to address the _BASE/_HOME
issue at the same time.

Thanks and I know this is the wrong list for this. However, since the
discussion was taking place, felt it was some what relevant. Thanks

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.
Gentoo/Java

RE: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com>.
I haven't had time to look much at Tomcat 6.0.x yet.  The first
step to patch the org.eclipse.jst.server.tomcat.core plug-in
to accept Tomcat 6 as if it were Tomcat 5.5 would be to modify
the verfiyInstall.properties file and remove "common/i18n" from
the list of what it checks for in 5.5.  At that point, the
plug-in will probably accept an Tomcat version 4.0.x or later
as if it was Tomcat 5.5.  You could then try to see if the
rest of the plug-in will work as is using Tomcat 6.0.x as a 5.5
server.  If I get a chance, I'll give this a quick try in the
near future and see what happens.

Cheers,
Larry

P.S. If you are using the SDK version of WTP or use Update to
get the source, it is fairly easy to patch a plug-in.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:58 AM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> 
> Larry, how could we lure the current WTP 1.5.2 to use a Tomcat 6.x ?
> 
> 2006/11/14, Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com>:
> > Regrettably, my day job didn't allow for much change in WTP 
> from 1.0.x 
> > to 1.5.x, beyond sporadic bug fixing.  I should be able to get much 
> > more done in WTP 2.0, also in the M4 release time frame.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Larry
> >
> > P.S. As deprecated as Contexts in server.xml is, it's still 
> the only 
> > approach supported across Tomcat versions since 3.x.
> > I'm not sure when this might change for newer Tomcats, 
> since too much 
> > customization unique to individual versions of Tomcat may eat more 
> > cycles than I have available.  It's something I'm keeping my eye on 
> > though.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: yoavshapira@gmail.com 
> [mailto:yoavshapira@gmail.com] On Behalf 
> > > Of Yoav Shapira
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:32 AM
> > > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > > Cc: Larry Isaacs
> > > Subject: Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a while 
> > > who was maintaining this support, and never got around to 
> checking.  
> > > It's much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm sure by 
> many others 
> > > as well
> > > ;)
> > >
> > > Yoav
> > >
> > > On 11/14/06, Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Henri,
> > > >
> > > > Probably before the M4 release of WTP 2.0 in early January.
> > > > The Tomcat support in WTP is where my day job has my spare
> > > time going
> > > > these days, what there is of it. :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:53 AM
> > > > > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > > > > Subject: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Did there is Eclipse WTP developpers around  ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Just in case of, when could we expect WTP to support 
> Tomcat 6.0 
> > > > > (still not the case in WTP 1.5.2).
> > > > >
> > > > > The Definition for a new server runtime environment 
> still miss 
> > > > > TC 6.0 ;(
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > 
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Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Henri Gomez <he...@gmail.com>.
Larry, how could we lure the current WTP 1.5.2 to use a Tomcat 6.x ?

2006/11/14, Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com>:
> Regrettably, my day job didn't allow for much change in WTP
> from 1.0.x to 1.5.x, beyond sporadic bug fixing.  I should be
> able to get much more done in WTP 2.0, also in the M4 release
> time frame.
>
> Cheers,
> Larry
>
> P.S. As deprecated as Contexts in server.xml is, it's still
> the only approach supported across Tomcat versions since 3.x.
> I'm not sure when this might change for newer Tomcats, since
> too much customization unique to individual versions of Tomcat
> may eat more cycles than I have available.  It's something I'm
> keeping my eye on though.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yoavshapira@gmail.com [mailto:yoavshapira@gmail.com] On
> > Behalf Of Yoav Shapira
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:32 AM
> > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > Cc: Larry Isaacs
> > Subject: Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> >
> > Hi,
> > Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a
> > while who was maintaining this support, and never got around
> > to checking.  It's much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm
> > sure by many others as well
> > ;)
> >
> > Yoav
> >
> > On 11/14/06, Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Henri,
> > >
> > > Probably before the M4 release of WTP 2.0 in early January.
> > > The Tomcat support in WTP is where my day job has my spare
> > time going
> > > these days, what there is of it. :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:53 AM
> > > > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > > > Subject: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> > > >
> > > > Did there is Eclipse WTP developpers around  ?
> > > >
> > > > Just in case of, when could we expect WTP to support Tomcat 6.0
> > > > (still not the case in WTP 1.5.2).
> > > >
> > > > The Definition for a new server runtime environment still miss TC
> > > > 6.0 ;(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Henri Gomez <he...@gmail.com>.
Great !

2007/1/16, Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com>:
> The current WTP 2.0 Integration build now contains support for
> Tomcat 6.0.  Sorry this missed the M4 release, but the M4 schedule
> shifted in a way that prevented this support from getting in.
> Support for Servlet 2.5 is being worked on but isn't yet available.
>
> It you want to follow along, the Eclipse bug for Tomcat 6.0 support
> is:  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=167723
>
> The download for this release is found at:
> http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R2.0/I-I200701121953-200701121953/
>
> FYI: Unlike most WTP releases, there is no JEM dependency listed with
> this release of WTP.  Changes to the emf-sdo-xsd dependency requires
> a new build of JEM.  This isn't available from the JEM project yet, so
> this release of WTP includes WTP built versions of the JEM plug-ins.
>
> Cheers,
> Larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Odilon Oliveira [mailto:odilontalk@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:43 PM
> > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > Subject: Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> >
> > +1 ! For sure =)
> >
> > On 11/14/06, Ian Darwin <ia...@darwinsys.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yoav Shapira wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a while
> > > > who was maintaining this support, and never got around to
> > checking.
> > > > It's much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm sure by
> > many others
> > > > as well
> > >
> > > +1 here too!
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ---
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> >
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RE: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com>.
The current WTP 2.0 Integration build now contains support for
Tomcat 6.0.  Sorry this missed the M4 release, but the M4 schedule
shifted in a way that prevented this support from getting in.
Support for Servlet 2.5 is being worked on but isn't yet available.

It you want to follow along, the Eclipse bug for Tomcat 6.0 support
is:  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=167723

The download for this release is found at:
http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R2.0/I-I200701121953-200701121953/

FYI: Unlike most WTP releases, there is no JEM dependency listed with
this release of WTP.  Changes to the emf-sdo-xsd dependency requires
a new build of JEM.  This isn't available from the JEM project yet, so
this release of WTP includes WTP built versions of the JEM plug-ins.

Cheers,
Larry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Odilon Oliveira [mailto:odilontalk@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:43 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> 
> +1 ! For sure =)
> 
> On 11/14/06, Ian Darwin <ia...@darwinsys.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yoav Shapira wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a while 
> > > who was maintaining this support, and never got around to 
> checking.  
> > > It's much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm sure by 
> many others 
> > > as well
> >
> > +1 here too!
> >
> > 
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> >
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> 
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Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Odilon Oliveira <od...@gmail.com>.
+1 ! For sure =)

On 11/14/06, Ian Darwin <ia...@darwinsys.com> wrote:
>
> Yoav Shapira wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a while who
> > was maintaining this support, and never got around to checking.  It's
> > much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm sure by many others as well
>
> +1 here too!
>
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Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Ian Darwin <ia...@darwinsys.com>.
Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a while who
> was maintaining this support, and never got around to checking.  It's
> much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm sure by many others as well

+1 here too!

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Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Henri Gomez <he...@gmail.com>.
+1,

Thanks for your work !

2006/11/14, Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>:
> Hi,
> Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a while who
> was maintaining this support, and never got around to checking.  It's
> much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm sure by many others as well
> ;)
>
> Yoav
>
> On 11/14/06, Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com> wrote:
> > Hi Henri,
> >
> > Probably before the M4 release of WTP 2.0 in early January.
> > The Tomcat support in WTP is where my day job has my spare
> > time going these days, what there is of it. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Larry
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:53 AM
> > > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > > Subject: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> > >
> > > Did there is Eclipse WTP developpers around  ?
> > >
> > > Just in case of, when could we expect WTP to support Tomcat
> > > 6.0 (still not the case in WTP 1.5.2).
> > >
> > > The Definition for a new server runtime environment still
> > > miss TC 6.0 ;(
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
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RE: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com>.
Regrettably, my day job didn't allow for much change in WTP
from 1.0.x to 1.5.x, beyond sporadic bug fixing.  I should be
able to get much more done in WTP 2.0, also in the M4 release
time frame.

Cheers,
Larry

P.S. As deprecated as Contexts in server.xml is, it's still
the only approach supported across Tomcat versions since 3.x.
I'm not sure when this might change for newer Tomcats, since
too much customization unique to individual versions of Tomcat
may eat more cycles than I have available.  It's something I'm
keeping my eye on though. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: yoavshapira@gmail.com [mailto:yoavshapira@gmail.com] On 
> Behalf Of Yoav Shapira
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:32 AM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Cc: Larry Isaacs
> Subject: Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> 
> Hi,
> Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a 
> while who was maintaining this support, and never got around 
> to checking.  It's much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm 
> sure by many others as well
> ;)
> 
> Yoav
> 
> On 11/14/06, Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com> wrote:
> > Hi Henri,
> >
> > Probably before the M4 release of WTP 2.0 in early January.
> > The Tomcat support in WTP is where my day job has my spare 
> time going 
> > these days, what there is of it. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Larry
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:53 AM
> > > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > > Subject: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> > >
> > > Did there is Eclipse WTP developpers around  ?
> > >
> > > Just in case of, when could we expect WTP to support Tomcat 6.0 
> > > (still not the case in WTP 1.5.2).
> > >
> > > The Definition for a new server runtime environment still miss TC 
> > > 6.0 ;(
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > 
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Re: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Larry, thanks for these efforts.  I've been wondering for a while who
was maintaining this support, and never got around to checking.  It's
much appreciated, at least by me, but I'm sure by many others as well
;)

Yoav

On 11/14/06, Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com> wrote:
> Hi Henri,
>
> Probably before the M4 release of WTP 2.0 in early January.
> The Tomcat support in WTP is where my day job has my spare
> time going these days, what there is of it. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:53 AM
> > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > Subject: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> >
> > Did there is Eclipse WTP developpers around  ?
> >
> > Just in case of, when could we expect WTP to support Tomcat
> > 6.0 (still not the case in WTP 1.5.2).
> >
> > The Definition for a new server runtime environment still
> > miss TC 6.0 ;(
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
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RE: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?

Posted by Larry Isaacs <La...@sas.com>.
Hi Henri,

Probably before the M4 release of WTP 2.0 in early January.
The Tomcat support in WTP is where my day job has my spare
time going these days, what there is of it. :)

Cheers,
Larry 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:53 AM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Eclipse WTP and Tomcat 6.0.x ?
> 
> Did there is Eclipse WTP developpers around  ?
> 
> Just in case of, when could we expect WTP to support Tomcat 
> 6.0 (still not the case in WTP 1.5.2).
> 
> The Definition for a new server runtime environment still 
> miss TC 6.0 ;(
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
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