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[VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
bonus.
Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Massimo Lusetti <ml...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
Massimo Lusetti: +1 (non-binding)
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
Em Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:36:34 -0300, Filip S. Adamsen <fs...@fsadev.com>
escreveu:
> Oh, Thiago I can pronounce no problem. The trouble begins when I come to
> Figueiredo... a few too many vowels for my Scandinavian tongue. :D
PostgreSQL's site used to have an MP3 instructing users how to pronounce
its name. It was moved to their FAQ:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ.html#item1.1. Maybe I should do
the same in my website . . . hehehe But it doesn't matter, Brazilians are
used to call each other by first name, not family name, even in formal
situations. :)
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Filip S. Adamsen" <fs...@fsadev.com>.
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On 2009-02-10 22:07, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote:
> Em Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:55:35 -0300, Filip S. Adamsen <fs...@fsadev.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> I can actually pronounce your name... sort of. Thiago's? No chance. :P
>
> At Heathrow's immigration department, the old woman there did the
> weirdest pronunciation of my name I ever heard. I told her: "I guess you
> called me, but I'm not sure . . ." hehehe.
>
> Try chi-ah-go. Pronounce "chi" like the English word. Or the Italian
> word "ciao", but put a 'g' before the 'o'. ;)
Oh, Thiago I can pronounce no problem. The trouble begins when I come to
Figueiredo... a few too many vowels for my Scandinavian tongue. :D
>> But then I'm Danish.
>
> I guess I can pronounce your name. :) This remembers me of the fact that
> Brazilians can understand most of a (slow) conversation between Spanish
> speakers (specially South American ones), but not the opposite.
Well, my name is actually Greek if you go back far enough, but let's not
get into that... and especially not what it means. ;O
/Filip
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
Em Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:55:35 -0300, Filip S. Adamsen <fs...@fsadev.com>
escreveu:
> I can actually pronounce your name... sort of. Thiago's? No chance. :P
At Heathrow's immigration department, the old woman there did the weirdest
pronunciation of my name I ever heard. I told her: "I guess you called me,
but I'm not sure . . ." hehehe.
Try chi-ah-go. Pronounce "chi" like the English word. Or the Italian word
"ciao", but put a 'g' before the 'o'. ;)
> But then I'm Danish.
I guess I can pronounce your name. :) This remembers me of the fact that
Brazilians can understand most of a (slow) conversation between Spanish
speakers (specially South American ones), but not the opposite.
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Filip S. Adamsen" <fs...@fsadev.com>.
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I can actually pronounce your name... sort of. Thiago's? No chance. :P
But then I'm Danish.
On 2009-02-10 17:02, Estevam Henrique Portela Mota e Silva wrote:
> *Estevam Henrique Portela Mota e Silva:* +1 (non-binding)
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
>> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
>> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
>> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
>> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
>> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
>> bonus.
>>
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>
>> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Estevam Henrique Portela Mota e Silva <es...@gmail.com>.
*Estevam Henrique Portela Mota e Silva:* +1 (non-binding)
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
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Handicapped Auditory = deaf
estevamota3@gmail.com / ehsilva@sfiec.org.br
Programmer Java and Tapestry
Brazil - Fortaleza / CE
Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Andreas Andreou <an...@di.uoa.gr>.
Andreas Andreou: +1 (binding)
... and thx from all for the amazing job inthe users mailing list.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Daniel Gredler <dj...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> +1 (non-binding)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
>> > actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
>> > patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
>> > based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
>> > addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
>> > complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
>> > bonus.
>> >
>> > Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
>> >
>> > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://daniel.gredler.net/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Atenciosamente,
>
> Marcelo Lotif
> Programador Java e Tapestry
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non-binding)
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Daniel Gredler <dj...@gmail.com>wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> > actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> > patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> > based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> > addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> > complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> > bonus.
> >
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
> >
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> >
>
>
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>
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Daniel Gredler <dj...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non-binding)
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Ted Steen <te...@gmail.com>.
Ted Steen +1 (non-binding)
2009/2/9 Daniel Jue <te...@gmail.com>:
> Daniel Jue +1 (non-binding)
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
>> Definitely a +1 (non-binding) from me.
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
>>>
>>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
>>> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
>>> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
>>> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
>>> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
>>> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
>>> bonus.
>>>
>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Daniel Jue <te...@gmail.com>.
Daniel Jue +1 (non-binding)
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
> Definitely a +1 (non-binding) from me.
>
> Uli
>
> Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
>>
>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
>> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
>> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
>> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
>> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
>> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
>> bonus.
>>
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>.
Definitely a +1 (non-binding) from me.
Uli
Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Filip S. Adamsen" <fs...@fsadev.com>.
No objections from here! It's always good to see more people joining the
project. :)
Filip S. Adamsen: +1 (non-binding)
On 2009-02-09 18:36, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Igor Drobiazko <ig...@gmail.com>.
even though I'm too late: +1 (non-binding)
The name is indeed very complicated :)
Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
Em Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:36:24 -0300, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
escreveu:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches.
Well, I have never really submitted a patch, just 10 bugs and Brazilian
Portuguese translations for property files.
> From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
My complete name is Thiago Henrique de Paula Figueiredo. You can use it
instead of the shortened (?!) version if you want. :)
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Robert Zeigler <ro...@scazdl.org>.
+1 (non-binding)
Robert
On Feb 9, 2009, at 2/911:36 AM , Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>
> --
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>
> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:13:30 -0300, Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> No, I don't. I suppose it's lighter because to integrate toplink+JPA you
>> only have to download 2 jars, something like 5mb.When I tried to switch to
>> hibernate+JPA, I have to download a LOT more dependencies than toplink,
>>
>
> I thought you were talking of "lightweight" like they say Spring is lighter
> than EJB 2.x. :)
> Hibernate has more features than JPA, so it should have more code.
> Regarding number of dependencies, Maven takes care of that to me. :)
>
Well, when i first tried hibernate+JPA I was into Tapestry 4 and then there
was no maven. There was really difficult to integrate them 3, specially
because I had a previous experience with toplink. Since then, I have
personal bad feelings with hibernate. Nothing really reasonable.
And about the performance, I really don't have any clue about who's faster
:)
>
>
> plus the dificulty of the process itself and the lack of documentation.
>>
>
> What process? Lack of documentation? Hibernate has one of the best
> documentations I've seen in open-source projects. And it does almost
> everything JPA does, using the same annotations and defaults, so I guess a
> JPA -> Hibernate transition should be easy. AFAIK, besides the JPA
> listeners, Hibernate is a proper superser of JPA.
>
> seraching a little, I read somewere that toplink was a project made to
>> provide an easy JPA implementation, so that is the reason.
>>
>
> Being JPA a standard, I guess all implementations should be as easy to easy
> as each other . . . at least in theory. :)
>
> To add some more advantage to toplink, I found a pretty useful "annotation
>> reference" guide that's better than anything I ever found into hibernate
>> documentation on the internet.
>>
>
> That's exactly the reference I use and the one I recommend to everyone. ;)
>
> Since hibernate annotations are pretty much
>> the same as toplink/JPA,
>>
>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/ias/toplink/jpa/resources/toplink-jpa-annotations.html
>>
>
> Hibernate uses all the JPA annotations exactly like JPA does. In fact,
> Hibernate's own annotations are just used to deal with features Hibernate
> has and JPA doesn't (@CollectionOfElements, @BatchSize, etc). No Hibernate
> annotation overlaps JPA's ones (besides cascading options).
>
Well, I think we are heading to something outside this list intentions! This
is what I think: if there's sufficient people who cares about a tapestry-jpa
integration to justify the effort of doing it, that must be done! And with
one more person in the tapestry team, it will be easier.
>
>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Daniel Gredler <dj...@gmail.com>.
I believe JPA 2 will provide a criteria API :-)
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:35 -0300, Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> and when I met tapestry-hibernate, I thought it was even easier that JPA,
>> and as a plus has some features that just hibernate has, like criteria
>>
>
> Criteria queries rules!
>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Filip S. Adamsen <fs...@fsadev.com> wrote:
> I don't know, I certainly don't feel old... but then I'm 23. ;)
I guess I'm in the middle here . . . I'm 28.
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Filip S. Adamsen" <fs...@fsadev.com>.
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I don't know, I certainly don't feel old... but then I'm 23. ;)
/Filip
On 2009-02-20 03:54, Christian Edward Gruber wrote:
> LOL. A whipper-snapper! Dammit - I'm only 36! Why do I feel so old...
>
> Christian.
>
> On 19-Feb-09, at 21:32 , Marcelo Lotif wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the information, Christian!
>>
>> I'm just too young to know this, in the mid 90's I was only 10 years
>> old. :)
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Posted by Christian Edward Gruber <ch...@gmail.com>.
LOL. A whipper-snapper! Dammit - I'm only 36! Why do I feel so old...
Christian.
On 19-Feb-09, at 21:32 , Marcelo Lotif wrote:
> Thanks for the information, Christian!
>
> I'm just too young to know this, in the mid 90's I was only 10 years
> old. :)
>
> On 2/19/09, Christian Edward Gruber
> <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Toplink is one of the oldest O/R Mapping systems in production, and
>> dates back to the mid-90's. It was purchased by Oracle, and was used
>> to make their reference JPA implementation. In fact, Oracle's
>> advocacy in the JPA standard was substantially influenced by Toplink.
>> Toplink, in the good-old-days, competed (in some ways) with the
>> Enterprise Object Framework from NeXTSTEP, became part of WebObjects,
>> and is still at the root of some of the Core Data stuff. Toplink
>> is a
>> lot of things, but isn't a project made to provide JPA integration.
>> It's partly the other way around.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Christian.
>>
>> On 19-Feb-09, at 15:13 , Marcelo Lotif wrote:
>>
>>> After
>>> seraching a little, I read somewere that toplink was a project
>>> made to
>>> provide an easy JPA implementation, so that is the reason.
>>
>> Christian Edward Gruber
>> e-mail: christianedwardgruber@gmail.com
>> weblog: http://www.geekinasuit.com/
>>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the information, Christian!
I'm just too young to know this, in the mid 90's I was only 10 years old. :)
On 2/19/09, Christian Edward Gruber <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Toplink is one of the oldest O/R Mapping systems in production, and
> dates back to the mid-90's. It was purchased by Oracle, and was used
> to make their reference JPA implementation. In fact, Oracle's
> advocacy in the JPA standard was substantially influenced by Toplink.
> Toplink, in the good-old-days, competed (in some ways) with the
> Enterprise Object Framework from NeXTSTEP, became part of WebObjects,
> and is still at the root of some of the Core Data stuff. Toplink is a
> lot of things, but isn't a project made to provide JPA integration.
> It's partly the other way around.
>
> cheers,
> Christian.
>
> On 19-Feb-09, at 15:13 , Marcelo Lotif wrote:
>
>> After
>> seraching a little, I read somewere that toplink was a project made to
>> provide an easy JPA implementation, so that is the reason.
>
> Christian Edward Gruber
> e-mail: christianedwardgruber@gmail.com
> weblog: http://www.geekinasuit.com/
>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Marcus Veloso <mv...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non-binding) vote for Thiago Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer.
I agree with Marcelo Lotif about tapestry-hibernate. It's easy, powerfull
and stable.
I remember that Carlos Delfino, some time ago, started an integration
between T5 and JPA. ("experimental JPA Module/Service")
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Christian Edward Gruber <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hibernate was a very strong, possibly the strongest inspiration for
JPA, but Toplink as an approach is older, and people who were brought
up with Toplink/WebObjects/EOF/etc. tend to use Entity Manager
equivalents as a single central meta-dao (in my experience) rather
than the norm in the Hibernate world which has individual DAOs for
each type or for business processes. That pattern of use causes some
problems if you try to use Hibernate that way without fixing issues of
session scope and re-attachment to the session in a web app.
This is now really heavily off-topic, but I didn't want to leave my
statement over-argued. Mostly I wanted to just clarify that Toplink
wasn't built to satisfy the JPA, but is far far older.
Christian.
On 20-Feb-09, at 07:20 , Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> It is (at least that's what Gavin King and Christian Bauer say in
> their
> book).
>
> "Developers from the Hibernate team joined the expert group early on
> and helped shape the new specification. Other vendors, including all
> major and many smaller companies in the Java industry, also
> contributed to the effort. An important decision made for the new
> standard was to specify and standardize things that work in
> practice, taking ideas and concepts from existing successful
> products and projects. Hibernate, therefore, being a successful data
> persistence solution, played an important role for the persistence
> part of the new standard."
>
> Uli
>
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo schrieb:
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Christian Edward Gruber <christianedwardgruber@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> of the Core Data stuff. Toplink is a lot of things, but isn't a
>>> project made to provide JPA integration. It's partly the other way
>>> around.
>> I always thought that JPA was inspired by Hibernate. They really look
>> very similar. EntityManager is almost a copy of Hibernate's session.
>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>.
It is (at least that's what Gavin King and Christian Bauer say in their
book).
"Developers from the Hibernate team joined the expert group early on and
helped shape the new specification. Other vendors, including all major
and many smaller companies in the Java industry, also contributed to the
effort. An important decision made for the new standard was to specify
and standardize things that work in practice, taking ideas and concepts
from existing successful products and projects. Hibernate, therefore,
being a successful data persistence solution, played an important role
for the persistence part of the new standard."
Uli
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo schrieb:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Christian Edward Gruber
> <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> of the Core Data stuff. Toplink is a lot of things, but isn't a
>> project made to provide JPA integration. It's partly the other way
>> around.
>
> I always thought that JPA was inspired by Hibernate. They really look
> very similar. EntityManager is almost a copy of Hibernate's session.
>
>
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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Christian Edward Gruber
<ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> of the Core Data stuff. Toplink is a lot of things, but isn't a project
> made to provide JPA integration. It's partly the other way around.
I always thought that JPA was inspired by Hibernate. They really look
very similar. EntityManager is almost a copy of Hibernate's session.
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Christian Edward Gruber <ch...@gmail.com>.
Toplink is one of the oldest O/R Mapping systems in production, and
dates back to the mid-90's. It was purchased by Oracle, and was used
to make their reference JPA implementation. In fact, Oracle's
advocacy in the JPA standard was substantially influenced by Toplink.
Toplink, in the good-old-days, competed (in some ways) with the
Enterprise Object Framework from NeXTSTEP, became part of WebObjects,
and is still at the root of some of the Core Data stuff. Toplink is a
lot of things, but isn't a project made to provide JPA integration.
It's partly the other way around.
cheers,
Christian.
On 19-Feb-09, at 15:13 , Marcelo Lotif wrote:
> After
> seraching a little, I read somewere that toplink was a project made to
> provide an easy JPA implementation, so that is the reason.
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Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
Em Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:13:30 -0300, Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>
escreveu:
> No, I don't. I suppose it's lighter because to integrate toplink+JPA you
> only have to download 2 jars, something like 5mb.When I tried to switch
> to hibernate+JPA, I have to download a LOT more dependencies than
> toplink,
I thought you were talking of "lightweight" like they say Spring is
lighter than EJB 2.x. :)
Hibernate has more features than JPA, so it should have more code.
Regarding number of dependencies, Maven takes care of that to me. :)
> plus the dificulty of the process itself and the lack of documentation.
What process? Lack of documentation? Hibernate has one of the best
documentations I've seen in open-source projects. And it does almost
everything JPA does, using the same annotations and defaults, so I guess a
JPA -> Hibernate transition should be easy. AFAIK, besides the JPA
listeners, Hibernate is a proper superser of JPA.
> seraching a little, I read somewere that toplink was a project made to
> provide an easy JPA implementation, so that is the reason.
Being JPA a standard, I guess all implementations should be as easy to
easy as each other . . . at least in theory. :)
> To add some more advantage to toplink, I found a pretty useful
> "annotation reference" guide that's better than anything I ever found
> into hibernate
> documentation on the internet.
That's exactly the reference I use and the one I recommend to everyone. ;)
> Since hibernate annotations are pretty much
> the same as toplink/JPA,
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/ias/toplink/jpa/resources/toplink-jpa-annotations.html
Hibernate uses all the JPA annotations exactly like JPA does. In fact,
Hibernate's own annotations are just used to deal with features Hibernate
has and JPA doesn't (@CollectionOfElements, @BatchSize, etc). No Hibernate
annotation overlaps JPA's ones (besides cascading options).
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>.
No, I don't. I suppose it's lighter because to integrate toplink+JPA you
only have to download 2 jars, something like 5mb. When I tried to switch to
hibernate+JPA, I have to download a LOT more dependencies than toplink, plus
the dificulty of the process itself and the lack of documentation. After
seraching a little, I read somewere that toplink was a project made to
provide an easy JPA implementation, so that is the reason.
To add some more advantage to toplink, I found a pretty useful "annotation
reference" guide that's better than anything I ever found into hibernate
documentation on the internet. Since hibernate annotations are pretty much
the same as toplink/JPA, I prefer to use it even if i'm using hibernate. See
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/ias/toplink/jpa/resources/toplink-jpa-annotations.html
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:51:36 -0300, Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> You're 100% right, but I thought there were deeper reasons for doing it,
>> like some gain in performance or some missing functionality.
>> Like you pointed out, that's definitely a matter of taste! I'm just using
>> tapestry-hibernate because it made the ORM thing a bit easier. :)
>>
>
> Do you know any benchmarks or performance comparisons between Hibernate and
> TopLink? Or any reason to think TopLink is lighter than Hibernate? I've
> never used TopLink or JPA alone, so I'm curious. :)
>
>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
Em Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:51:36 -0300, Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>
escreveu:
> You're 100% right, but I thought there were deeper reasons for doing it,
> like some gain in performance or some missing functionality.
> Like you pointed out, that's definitely a matter of taste! I'm just using
> tapestry-hibernate because it made the ORM thing a bit easier. :)
Do you know any benchmarks or performance comparisons between Hibernate
and TopLink? Or any reason to think TopLink is lighter than Hibernate?
I've never used TopLink or JPA alone, so I'm curious. :)
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Posted by Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:35 -0300, Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> and when I met tapestry-hibernate, I thought it was even easier that JPA,
>> and as a plus has some features that just hibernate has, like criteria
>>
>
> Criteria queries rules!
>
> Maybe is just a lack of knowledge, but I don't see any advantages of a
>> tapestry-jpa module over the existent tapestry-hibernate, except the fact
>> that toplink is lighter (and maybe faster) than hibernate. Can someone
>> point me some?
>>
>
> I guess the point is to support JPA for the people who wants pure,
> non-Hibernate, JSR-starndard EntityManager-based ORM. And which one is
> better is not something that everyone will agree.
You're 100% right, but I thought there were deeper reasons for doing it,
like some gain in performance or some missing functionality.
> I'm on the Hibernate side, though. :)
Like you pointed out, that's definitely a matter of taste! I'm just using
tapestry-hibernate because it made the ORM thing a bit easier. :)
>
>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
Em Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:35 -0300, Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>
escreveu:
> and when I met tapestry-hibernate, I thought it was even easier that JPA,
> and as a plus has some features that just hibernate has, like criteria
Criteria queries rules!
> Maybe is just a lack of knowledge, but I don't see any advantages of a
> tapestry-jpa module over the existent tapestry-hibernate, except the fact
> that toplink is lighter (and maybe faster) than hibernate. Can someone
> point me some?
I guess the point is to support JPA for the people who wants pure,
non-Hibernate, JSR-starndard EntityManager-based ORM. And which one is
better is not something that everyone will agree. I'm on the Hibernate
side, though. :)
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Marcelo Lotif <ml...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I had some experience with both tapestry-hibernate and tapestry+JPA, and it
was something like this:
I thought hibernate was too complicated, but I was used to it
When I met JPA+toplink, I put it into my tapestry applications and I thought
it was easier than hibernate
and when I met tapestry-hibernate, I thought it was even easier that JPA,
and as a plus has some features that just hibernate has, like criteria
Maybe is just a lack of knowledge, but I don't see any advantages of a
tapestry-jpa module over the existent tapestry-hibernate, except the fact
that toplink is lighter (and maybe faster) than hibernate. Can someone point
me some?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi, Thiago!
>
> Hi, Dmitry!
>
> > I've implemented my own lightweight API providing ORM/JPA functionality
> to
> > tapestry application. I've just published the library sources here
> > http://code.google.com/p/keyintegrity-orm/
>
> I'll take a look at that. :)
>
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Thiago!
Hi, Dmitry!
> I've implemented my own lightweight API providing ORM/JPA functionality to
> tapestry application. I've just published the library sources here
> http://code.google.com/p/keyintegrity-orm/
I'll take a look at that. :)
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Thiago!
I have some experience using T5 with JPA.
I've implemented my own lightweight API providing ORM/JPA functionality to
tapestry application. I've just published the library sources here
http://code.google.com/p/keyintegrity-orm/
I've tried to make this ORM implementation technology independent using my
previously JDO experience (though JPA implementation is only available ATM).
You can find basic T5 application design using the API and some code
examples within the presentations (there's the PDF version of it
http://dmitry.gusev.googlepages.com/introducing-keyintegrity-orm.pdf). Its
currently available in Russian only (I know there's a lot of Russian
developers here), but I hope you'll find the code from presentations
readable :)
The API provides transparent transaction support (framework user doesn't
matter of dealign with transactions) but as I've seen Spring guys says such
transaction support is an anti-pattern :) so I should probably change the
transactions implementation later and I'm looking forward to your
forthcoming work.
p.s.
That was my first T5 application and there's probably might be better
approaches of T5 application designs but 1) mine is implemented and 2)
deployed to production, and I'm proud I did it in T5 :)
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 05:53, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:45:15 -0300, Geoff Callender <
> geoff.callender.jumpstart@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> Great ideas and observations, Thiago. I especially like your points about
>> adopting the Java EE transaction annotations (and I'd like to see a
>> tapestry-jpa module), and modules for JFreeChart and JasperReports.
>>
>
> Hi, Geoff!
>
> Unfortunately, many interesting things to do, little time to do them at the
> moment. The T-IoC-based transation support is something I dream for a long
> time already. If you search the users mailing list, you will probabibly find
> one or two messages of mine talking about it . . .
>
> Writing a Tapestry-JPA module seems easy since the Hibernate one is already
> implemented. One more reason to have an implementation-agnostic transaction
> support. Another reason with Tapestry-Cayenne, that Robert Zeigler will
> bring to use soon. I have never used JPA itself, nor any EJB thing, so maybe
> there are some issues to tackle I don't even know yet.
>
> I hope everbody contributes with their ideas and even code. :)
>
>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
Em Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:45:15 -0300, Geoff Callender
<ge...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> Great ideas and observations, Thiago. I especially like your points
> about adopting the Java EE transaction annotations (and I'd like to see
> a tapestry-jpa module), and modules for JFreeChart and JasperReports.
Hi, Geoff!
Unfortunately, many interesting things to do, little time to do them at
the moment. The T-IoC-based transation support is something I dream for a
long time already. If you search the users mailing list, you will
probabibly find one or two messages of mine talking about it . . .
Writing a Tapestry-JPA module seems easy since the Hibernate one is
already implemented. One more reason to have an implementation-agnostic
transaction support. Another reason with Tapestry-Cayenne, that Robert
Zeigler will bring to use soon. I have never used JPA itself, nor any EJB
thing, so maybe there are some issues to tackle I don't even know yet.
I hope everbody contributes with their ideas and even code. :)
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Posted by Geoff Callender <ge...@gmail.com>.
Great ideas and observations, Thiago. I especially like your points
about adopting the Java EE transaction annotations (and I'd like to
see a tapestry-jpa module), and modules for JFreeChart and
JasperReports.
Geoff
On 17/02/2009, at 10:02 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I would like to thank all confidence you put on me. I'll do my best
> to not let you down. :)
>
> It is a honor to me to join the Tapestry development team. I'm very
> passionate about this framework and I recommend it every time I get
> a chance. I've done two presentations about Tapestry in Belo
> Horizonte local events, one of them back in August, 2007. Even my
> professional life revolves around it. I worked a little with T4 and
> I'm a T5 user since T5.0.5, even earlier. I work part time in a
> commercial project that uses Tapestry and the Ars Machina Project (http://www.arsmachina.com.br/project
> ), which includes some T5-related packages. I have some personal
> projects, all of them using Tapestry or having some relation to it.
>
> By the way, I invite everyone to take a look at the Ars Machina
> Project, specially Tapestry CRUD. I started it as a way to provide
> some concepts that are not present in Tapestry, but, in my humble
> opinion, I think they would fit very well If you think it is worth,
> I'm willing to donate it or parts of it to the Tapestry project. All
> feedback is welcome, positive or negative.
>
> I have a dream of having a full application stack built on Tapestry
> IoC, a little bit like Spring. I like Spring a lot, but T-IoC is
> awesome. At the same time, very easy and very powerful. With its
> distributed configuration and AOP support, T-IoC provides an almost
> perfect infrastructure for building truly convention-over-
> configuration, drop-a-JAR-in-the-classpath-and-it's-working packages
> and applications. The first steps is already done with Tapestry-
> Hibernate and its transaction support. But I think Tapestry would
> benefit a lot to have an implementation-agnostic transaction
> framework. We could reuse the Java EE transaction annotations for
> better compatibility.
>
> We could also build some simple official integration with other
> frameworks like JFreeChart and JasperReports. Marketing-wise, we
> could attract more users when they visit the site and they read that
> their favorite frameworks are supported by Tapestry, even when we
> know how easy you can do the integration yourself.
>
> Besides these larger projects, I also want to help the team to
> address some issues that could improve the Tapestry user experience.
> I also want to contribute to the documentation. Some questions in
> the mailing list are about things that are not easy to find in the
> docs.
>
> See you!
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Independent Java consultant, developer, and instructor
> http://www.arsmachina.com.br/thiago
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
I think that's an excellent introduction and I look forward to your
contributions.
Speaking for myself, I've long wanted to introduce more CRUD behavior
into Tapestry, and tapestry-hibernate is only supposed to be the first
step down that line.
In terms of other integrations; those with proper licenses should be
supported as part of the Apache Tapestry project; others can live on
Tapestry360 (yes, it's still not quite ready!).
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
<th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I would like to thank all confidence you put on me. I'll do my best to not
> let you down. :)
>
> It is a honor to me to join the Tapestry development team. I'm very
> passionate about this framework and I recommend it every time I get a
> chance. I've done two presentations about Tapestry in Belo Horizonte local
> events, one of them back in August, 2007. Even my professional life revolves
> around it. I worked a little with T4 and I'm a T5 user since T5.0.5, even
> earlier. I work part time in a commercial project that uses Tapestry and the
> Ars Machina Project (http://www.arsmachina.com.br/project), which includes
> some T5-related packages. I have some personal projects, all of them using
> Tapestry or having some relation to it.
>
> By the way, I invite everyone to take a look at the Ars Machina Project,
> specially Tapestry CRUD. I started it as a way to provide some concepts that
> are not present in Tapestry, but, in my humble opinion, I think they would
> fit very well If you think it is worth, I'm willing to donate it or parts of
> it to the Tapestry project. All feedback is welcome, positive or negative.
>
> I have a dream of having a full application stack built on Tapestry IoC, a
> little bit like Spring. I like Spring a lot, but T-IoC is awesome. At the
> same time, very easy and very powerful. With its distributed configuration
> and AOP support, T-IoC provides an almost perfect infrastructure for
> building truly convention-over-configuration,
> drop-a-JAR-in-the-classpath-and-it's-working packages and applications. The
> first steps is already done with Tapestry-Hibernate and its transaction
> support. But I think Tapestry would benefit a lot to have an
> implementation-agnostic transaction framework. We could reuse the Java EE
> transaction annotations for better compatibility.
>
> We could also build some simple official integration with other frameworks
> like JFreeChart and JasperReports. Marketing-wise, we could attract more
> users when they visit the site and they read that their favorite frameworks
> are supported by Tapestry, even when we know how easy you can do the
> integration yourself.
>
> Besides these larger projects, I also want to help the team to address some
> issues that could improve the Tapestry user experience. I also want to
> contribute to the documentation. Some questions in the mailing list are
> about things that are not easy to find in the docs.
>
> See you!
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Independent Java consultant, developer, and instructor
> http://www.arsmachina.com.br/thiago
>
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
Hi!
I would like to thank all confidence you put on me. I'll do my best to not
let you down. :)
It is a honor to me to join the Tapestry development team. I'm very
passionate about this framework and I recommend it every time I get a
chance. I've done two presentations about Tapestry in Belo Horizonte local
events, one of them back in August, 2007. Even my professional life
revolves around it. I worked a little with T4 and I'm a T5 user since
T5.0.5, even earlier. I work part time in a commercial project that uses
Tapestry and the Ars Machina Project
(http://www.arsmachina.com.br/project), which includes some T5-related
packages. I have some personal projects, all of them using Tapestry or
having some relation to it.
By the way, I invite everyone to take a look at the Ars Machina Project,
specially Tapestry CRUD. I started it as a way to provide some concepts
that are not present in Tapestry, but, in my humble opinion, I think they
would fit very well If you think it is worth, I'm willing to donate it or
parts of it to the Tapestry project. All feedback is welcome, positive or
negative.
I have a dream of having a full application stack built on Tapestry IoC, a
little bit like Spring. I like Spring a lot, but T-IoC is awesome. At the
same time, very easy and very powerful. With its distributed configuration
and AOP support, T-IoC provides an almost perfect infrastructure for
building truly convention-over-configuration,
drop-a-JAR-in-the-classpath-and-it's-working packages and applications.
The first steps is already done with Tapestry-Hibernate and its
transaction support. But I think Tapestry would benefit a lot to have an
implementation-agnostic transaction framework. We could reuse the Java EE
transaction annotations for better compatibility.
We could also build some simple official integration with other frameworks
like JFreeChart and JasperReports. Marketing-wise, we could attract more
users when they visit the site and they read that their favorite
frameworks are supported by Tapestry, even when we know how easy you can
do the integration yourself.
Besides these larger projects, I also want to help the team to address
some issues that could improve the Tapestry user experience. I also want
to contribute to the documentation. Some questions in the mailing list are
about things that are not easy to find in the docs.
See you!
--
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Independent Java consultant, developer, and instructor
http://www.arsmachina.com.br/thiago
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Re: [SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
Jesse Kuhnert: +1 (bindng)
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
>> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
>> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
>> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
>> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
>> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
>> bonus.
>>
>
> Binding votes:
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1
> Andreas Andreou: +1
>
> Non-binding votes:
>
> Robert Zeigler: +1
> Filip S. Adamsen: +1
> Daniel Jue: +1
> Ted Steen: +1
> Kevin Menard: +1
> Massimo Lusetti: +1
> Daniel Gredler: +1
> Marcelo Lotif: +1
> Estevam Henrique Portela Mota e Silva:* +1 (
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[SUCCESS] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
>
Binding votes:
Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1
Andreas Andreou: +1
Non-binding votes:
Robert Zeigler: +1
Filip S. Adamsen: +1
Daniel Jue: +1
Ted Steen: +1
Kevin Menard: +1
Massimo Lusetti: +1
Daniel Gredler: +1
Marcelo Lotif: +1
Estevam Henrique Portela Mota e Silva:* +1 (
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Re: [VOTE] Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo as Tapestry Committer
Posted by Kevin Menard <ni...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non-binding)
--
Kevin
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo has been making a name for himself
> actively mentoring users on the mailing list and submitting bugs and
> patches. From private communications, he's eager to join the team, and
> based on everything I've seen, I think he'll make a great asset. In
> addition, he'll take the heat off of me for having the most
> complicated name in open source development, which is a terrific
> bonus.
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding)
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>
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