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Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Hi
I just looked at http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html, and
I do understand that votes can be open for an extended period of time, but
more than 100 days seems excessive:
Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release 2014–10–20 2014–10–05 102 days Accept
Ignite into the Apache Incubator 2014–10–01 2014–10–01 106 days Release
RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) 2014–09–03 2014–09–02 135 days Release
Apache Flink 0.6-incubating 2014–08–22 2014–08–18 150 days Release BatchEE
0-2-incubating 2014–08–10 2014–08–10 158 days Release Apache DeviceMap
BrowserMap version 1.4.1 2014–07–30 2014–07–25 174 days Release of Apache
MRQL 0.9.2 incubating (RC2)) 2014–06–26 2014–06–25 204 days Graduate
Apache Celix as Top Level Project 2014–06–23 2014–06–19 210 days Apache
Slider 0.30-incubating RC0 2014–06–02 2014–06–02 227 days
Could I politely ask the different projects to have a look if these votes
still are active, or alternatively close/cancel them.
thanks in advance
rgds
jan i.
Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 15.01.2015 17:57, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> ...I'll go and kill that cron job then. Woot!...
> Can you also write a note at
> http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html to indicate that
> the service is discontinued?
>
> People might have bookmarked it.
Ack, done.
-- Brane
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...I'll go and kill that cron job then. Woot!...
Can you also write a note at
http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html to indicate that
the service is discontinued?
People might have bookmarked it.
Thanks again for creating this!
-Bertrand
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 15.01.2015 15:08, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:37 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I just looked at http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html, and
>> I do understand that votes can be open for an extended period of time, but
>> more than 100 days seems excessive:
> Back in June 2014, I suggested that this service be retired:
>
> http://s.apache.org/22q
>
> No one objected, and I removed the links to it. I don't think we
> should bring it back now; as Brane notes, keeping it up-to-date
> requires significant ongoing fiddling.
>
> Thanks once again to those who helped maintain it. It helped to prod
> changes which brought the Incubator out of perpetual crisis.
You're welcome. I'll go and kill that cron job then. Woot!
-- Brane
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:17 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> Seems the links jumped back in again, I came to it from "voting status" on
> our front page. Don't know how to remove it from there.
We need to remove this line:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/stylesheets/project.xml?revision=1555979&view=markup#l46
On commit, the CMS will fire the Incubator's site generation routines,
propagating out the result to all the files that contain that
component.
Feel free to perform that commit, or I can take care of it later.
> I don't want it back, but if retired the link should go too.
I misremembered. In an earlier cleanup (January 2014), I had moved
the link to a less prominent location on the page.
OK, this time it will really go. But I'm glad I got to thank people again. :)
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:37 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > I just looked at http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html,
> and
> > I do understand that votes can be open for an extended period of time,
> but
> > more than 100 days seems excessive:
>
> Back in June 2014, I suggested that this service be retired:
>
> http://s.apache.org/22q
>
> No one objected, and I removed the links to it. I don't think we
> should bring it back now; as Brane notes, keeping it up-to-date
> requires significant ongoing fiddling.
Seems the links jumped back in again, I came to it from "voting status" on
our front page. Don't know how to remove it from there.
I don't want it back, but if retired the link should go too.
rgds
jan i
>
> Thanks once again to those who helped maintain it. It helped to prod
> changes which brought the Incubator out of perpetual crisis.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:37 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> I just looked at http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html, and
> I do understand that votes can be open for an extended period of time, but
> more than 100 days seems excessive:
Back in June 2014, I suggested that this service be retired:
http://s.apache.org/22q
No one objected, and I removed the links to it. I don't think we
should bring it back now; as Brane notes, keeping it up-to-date
requires significant ongoing fiddling.
Thanks once again to those who helped maintain it. It helped to prod
changes which brought the Incubator out of perpetual crisis.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 15.01.2015 15:06, jan i wrote:
> On 15 January 2015 at 14:58, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 15.01.2015 14:45, Dave wrote:
>>> This vote: "RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) 2014–09–03 2014–09–02
>>> 135 days" was cancelled in an email message titled "[VOTE][CANCELLED]
>>> Release RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) - CORRECTION"
>> The problem here is that the vote tally script does not expect people to
>> fiddle with the subject line other than to add a [RESULT] or [CANCEL] or
>> [CANCELLED] tag. In the past, I've found quite a few result or
>> cancellation messages that also modify the rest of the subject line, or
>> even start a completely new thread. Every now and then I go through the
>> script's database and fix up results, but ... I'd really have expected
>> people to feel less need to fiddle with subject lines. :)
>>
>> (At one point I tried following in-reply-to headers ... what a mess,
>> mail clients these days really have trouble following 20-year-old RFCs.)
>>
> Does the program have any other method to cancel votes than making an email
> ?
> (would be kind of nice of IPMC could mark votes like the one from Usergrid,
> without extra emails)
Yeah, it would be nice; and the answer is, not yet. It's just a cron job
that generates static HTML, running off my account on minotaur.
At one time I had this utopian plan for changing the whole thing into a
nice webapp, but ... heh. Went the way of all other Utopias.
>> And of course, some votes never get a proper resolution mail sent out.
>>
> Those are the ones we need to catch.
Yup. That was the point of trying to automate the whole thing.
-- Brane
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 15 January 2015 at 14:58, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 15.01.2015 14:45, Dave wrote:
> > This vote: "RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) 2014–09–03 2014–09–02
> > 135 days" was cancelled in an email message titled "[VOTE][CANCELLED]
> > Release RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) - CORRECTION"
>
> The problem here is that the vote tally script does not expect people to
> fiddle with the subject line other than to add a [RESULT] or [CANCEL] or
> [CANCELLED] tag. In the past, I've found quite a few result or
> cancellation messages that also modify the rest of the subject line, or
> even start a completely new thread. Every now and then I go through the
> script's database and fix up results, but ... I'd really have expected
> people to feel less need to fiddle with subject lines. :)
>
> (At one point I tried following in-reply-to headers ... what a mess,
> mail clients these days really have trouble following 20-year-old RFCs.)
>
Does the program have any other method to cancel votes than making an email
?
(would be kind of nice of IPMC could mark votes like the one from Usergrid,
without extra emails)
>
> And of course, some votes never get a proper resolution mail sent out.
>
Those are the ones we need to catch.
rgds
jan i
>
> -- Brane
>
> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:37 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I just looked at http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html,
> and
> >> I do understand that votes can be open for an extended period of time,
> but
> >> more than 100 days seems excessive:
> >>
> >> Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release 2014–10–20 2014–10–05 102 days
> >> Accept
> >> Ignite into the Apache Incubator 2014–10–01 2014–10–01 106 days Release
> >> RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) 2014–09–03 2014–09–02 135 days
> >> Release
> >> Apache Flink 0.6-incubating 2014–08–22 2014–08–18 150 days Release
> BatchEE
> >> 0-2-incubating 2014–08–10 2014–08–10 158 days Release Apache DeviceMap
> >> BrowserMap version 1.4.1 2014–07–30 2014–07–25 174 days Release of
> Apache
> >> MRQL 0.9.2 incubating (RC2)) 2014–06–26 2014–06–25 204 days Graduate
> >> Apache Celix as Top Level Project 2014–06–23 2014–06–19 210 days Apache
> >> Slider 0.30-incubating RC0 2014–06–02 2014–06–02 227 days
> >> Could I politely ask the different projects to have a look if these
> votes
> >> still are active, or alternatively close/cancel them.
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks in advance
> >> rgds
> >> jan i.
> >>
>
>
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 15.01.2015 14:45, Dave wrote:
> This vote: "RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) 2014–09–03 2014–09–02
> 135 days" was cancelled in an email message titled "[VOTE][CANCELLED]
> Release RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) - CORRECTION"
The problem here is that the vote tally script does not expect people to
fiddle with the subject line other than to add a [RESULT] or [CANCEL] or
[CANCELLED] tag. In the past, I've found quite a few result or
cancellation messages that also modify the rest of the subject line, or
even start a completely new thread. Every now and then I go through the
script's database and fix up results, but ... I'd really have expected
people to feel less need to fiddle with subject lines. :)
(At one point I tried following in-reply-to headers ... what a mess,
mail clients these days really have trouble following 20-year-old RFCs.)
And of course, some votes never get a proper resolution mail sent out.
-- Brane
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:37 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I just looked at http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html, and
>> I do understand that votes can be open for an extended period of time, but
>> more than 100 days seems excessive:
>>
>> Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release 2014–10–20 2014–10–05 102 days
>> Accept
>> Ignite into the Apache Incubator 2014–10–01 2014–10–01 106 days Release
>> RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) 2014–09–03 2014–09–02 135 days
>> Release
>> Apache Flink 0.6-incubating 2014–08–22 2014–08–18 150 days Release BatchEE
>> 0-2-incubating 2014–08–10 2014–08–10 158 days Release Apache DeviceMap
>> BrowserMap version 1.4.1 2014–07–30 2014–07–25 174 days Release of Apache
>> MRQL 0.9.2 incubating (RC2)) 2014–06–26 2014–06–25 204 days Graduate
>> Apache Celix as Top Level Project 2014–06–23 2014–06–19 210 days Apache
>> Slider 0.30-incubating RC0 2014–06–02 2014–06–02 227 days
>> Could I politely ask the different projects to have a look if these votes
>> still are active, or alternatively close/cancel them.
>>
>>
>> thanks in advance
>> rgds
>> jan i.
>>
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Re: Open votes that have been open for more than 100 days ??
Posted by Dave <sn...@gmail.com>.
This vote: "RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) 2014–09–03 2014–09–02
135 days" was cancelled in an email message titled "[VOTE][CANCELLED]
Release RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) - CORRECTION"
- Dave
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:37 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just looked at http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html, and
> I do understand that votes can be open for an extended period of time, but
> more than 100 days seems excessive:
>
> Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release 2014–10–20 2014–10–05 102 days
> Accept
> Ignite into the Apache Incubator 2014–10–01 2014–10–01 106 days Release
> RC4 as Apache Usergrid 1.0 (incubating) 2014–09–03 2014–09–02 135 days
> Release
> Apache Flink 0.6-incubating 2014–08–22 2014–08–18 150 days Release BatchEE
> 0-2-incubating 2014–08–10 2014–08–10 158 days Release Apache DeviceMap
> BrowserMap version 1.4.1 2014–07–30 2014–07–25 174 days Release of Apache
> MRQL 0.9.2 incubating (RC2)) 2014–06–26 2014–06–25 204 days Graduate
> Apache Celix as Top Level Project 2014–06–23 2014–06–19 210 days Apache
> Slider 0.30-incubating RC0 2014–06–02 2014–06–02 227 days
> Could I politely ask the different projects to have a look if these votes
> still are active, or alternatively close/cancel them.
>
>
> thanks in advance
> rgds
> jan i.
>