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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Vic Cekvenich <ce...@baseBeans.com> on 2003/11/03 14:02:28 UTC
Re: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]
So Howard,
If WebCT is not clear or the project on Apache has to go to limbo (ie I
can't use it), would you consider moving it to sf.net ( and give WebCT
all advertising they want) so that I could use it?
I would like to use it... but I want to use my time right. Either WebCT
is happy with what was done for IBM, or you consider a move to sf.net
for now, or... it is in limbo.
.V
Robert Leland wrote:
> hlship@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Once it goes beta, I'll start monitoring the user list as well as the
>> developer list.
>>
>> Unless beta coincides with promotion to top level, in which case there
>> will be a hivemind-user and hivemind-dev lists.
>>
>> WebCT will be getting back to me soon to finalize the wording for
>> promotion (I developed HiveMind partially on their time, so they have
>> a say -- they want to ensure they get proper credit).
>>
>>
> You will also probably need to get guidance from the Apache Foundation,
> on Acknowledging WebCT before moving HiveMind to Commons/Jakarta level.
> pmc@jakarta.apache.org
> Many companies like Sun/IBM have contributed many man years of
> labor to Jakarta Projects and they just get very minimal acknowledgment.
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/acknowledgements.html
>
> If WebCT requires the acknowledgment to be larger than the existing
> acknowledgments for Sun/IBM for example
> and Apache isn't as a whole won't allow it,...and you agree then a
> viable alternative
> might be to move the project elsewhere like Source Forge.
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RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> I've been trading drafts of the proposal and I think they are
> on the right track. I suspect we'll be going forward soon --
> possibly today.
I can't find in the archives where you've made the Jakarta PMC or the ASF
Board aware of this specific incident. When IP ownership issues arise on a
project, as you made this project aware on October 22
(http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=commons-dev@jakarta.apa
che.org&msgId=1096118), it seems to me that either the PMC and/or the Board
ought to be directly brought into the loop. As you said, "fortunately,
nobody's out to cause trouble", but it could easily have gone the other way
(and it isn't resolved, yet).
Robert Leland made the same comment to you on October 27th, about receiving
some guidance from the Foundation. Corporate software grants, such as the
one with BEA for XMLBeans, are certainly do-able. But for a PMC and the
Board to ensure proper oversight within a TLP and across the ASF,
respectively, they need to be made aware of when problems such as this one
arise.
--- Noel
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RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
I've been trading drafts of the proposal and I think they are on the right track. I suspect we'll be
going forward soon -- possibly today.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
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>
>
> So Howard,
> If WebCT is not clear or the project on Apache has to go to
> limbo (ie I
> can't use it), would you consider moving it to sf.net ( and
> give WebCT
> all advertising they want) so that I could use it?
>
> I would like to use it... but I want to use my time right.
> Either WebCT
> is happy with what was done for IBM, or you consider a move to sf.net
> for now, or... it is in limbo.
>
> .V
>
> Robert Leland wrote:
>
> > hlship@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >> Once it goes beta, I'll start monitoring the user list as
> well as the
> >> developer list.
> >>
> >> Unless beta coincides with promotion to top level, in which case
> >> there
> >> will be a hivemind-user and hivemind-dev lists.
> >>
> >> WebCT will be getting back to me soon to finalize the wording for
> >> promotion (I developed HiveMind partially on their time,
> so they have
> >> a say -- they want to ensure they get proper credit).
> >>
> >>
> > You will also probably need to get guidance from the Apache
> > Foundation, on Acknowledging WebCT before moving HiveMind
> to Commons/Jakarta level.
> > pmc@jakarta.apache.org
> > Many companies like Sun/IBM have contributed many man years
> of labor
> > to Jakarta Projects and they just get very minimal acknowledgment.
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/acknowledgements.html
> >
> > If WebCT requires the acknowledgment to be larger than the existing
> > acknowledgments for Sun/IBM for example
> > and Apache isn't as a whole won't allow it,...and you agree then a
> > viable alternative
> > might be to move the project elsewhere like Source Forge.
>
> --
> Victor Cekvenich,
> Struts Instructor
> (215) 321-9146
>
> Advanced Struts Training
> <http://basebeans.com/do/cmsPg?> content=TRAINING> Server Side
> Java training with Rich UI,
> mentoring, designs, samples and project recovery in North
> East. Simple best practice basic Portal, a Struts CMS, Membership, Forums, Shopping and > Credit
processing, <http://basicportal.com> > software, ready
> to develop/customize; requires a db to run.
>
>
>
>
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