Re: mod_perl usage stats continue to decline

["Philippe M. Chiasson" <go...@ectoplasm.org>]

Stas Bekman wrote:
> Frank Wiles wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:47:26 -0500
>>Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org> wrote:
>>
>>>for some reason we still don't have the numbers for Oct 2004 from
>>>netcraft but regardless it's easy to see that the stats are getting
>>>worse all the time:
>>>
>>>http://perl.apache.org/outstanding/stats/securityspace.html
>>>http://perl.apache.org/outstanding/stats/netcraft.html
>>
>>
>>  Isn't this probably caused in part by systems that don't have
>>  'mod_perl' in their server signature and/or systems using a small
>>  Apache front end with a mod_perl backend on another port? 
> 
> You mean the decline is because more and more people move to the 
> front-/back-end setup, and people aren't just moving to php?

I just noticed that by default, Fedore Core ships httpd.conf with this
snippet:

#
# Don't give away too much information about all the subcomponents
# we are running.  Comment out this line if you don't mind remote sites
# finding out what major optional modules you are running
ServerTokens OS

So that certainly doesn't help numbers.

> 
>>  I just checked my system at home and it doesn't report "mod_perl" 
>>  to NetCraft.
> 
> I think we discussed that earlier. If I remember correctly NetCraft can't 
> scan ports (even the known ones) due to legal reasons.
> 
>> Maybe we should put together a quick howto on fixing
>>  that and suggest it on the mailing list? 
> 
> Do you think it'll have any impact when we talk about hundreds of 
> thousands of users who aren't on the list and will never reach our site?
> 
> What technique to help the scanners were you thinking about?

How about my X-Powered-By suggestion for a while ago ?

http://perl.apache.org/advocacy/issues.html#X_Powered_By

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Re: mod_perl usage stats continue to decline

[Frank Wiles <fr...@wiles.org>]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:31:48 -0800
"Philippe M. Chiasson" <go...@ectoplasm.org> wrote:

> I just noticed that by default, Fedore Core ships httpd.conf with this
> snippet:
> 
> #
> # Don't give away too much information about all the subcomponents
> # we are running.  Comment out this line if you don't mind remote
> # sites finding out what major optional modules you are running
> ServerTokens OS
> 
> So that certainly doesn't help numbers.

  Yup that's what I was talking about when I was talking about my
  system. Fedora and RHEL both do this and have been since IIRC around
  RH 9. 


> How about my X-Powered-By suggestion for a while ago ?
> 
> http://perl.apache.org/advocacy/issues.html#X_Powered_By

  I also agree this is a great idea.  Especailly if I read this
  correctly that it will work behind a dual Apache setup. 

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Re: mod_perl usage stats continue to decline

[Adam Prime <ds...@gmail.com>]

> > What technique to help the scanners were you thinking about?
> 
> How about my X-Powered-By suggestion for a while ago ?
> 
> http://perl.apache.org/advocacy/issues.html#X_Powered_By
> 

i think that's a great idea.

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