Oracle 9i BC4J and Struts

[Alireza Fattahi <Al...@pdpsoft.com>]

Hi,

Did any one have any experience with Oracle 9i BC4J and struts? I found it
complicated Am I right? Does it make things more complicated or it worth a
complete R&D :)

Alireza

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Re: Oracle 9i BC4J and Struts

[Steve Muench <St...@oracle.com>]

Alireza,

If you let me know what you found complicated, I can help
you understand the approach the BC4J framework takes and
why things are done that way. 

Every feature in the BC4J framework is grounded in some
real-world task that you typically will need to perform
over-and-over again by hand (or by writing your own framework
code or code generator) while building robust J2EE business
applications. Just inside Oracle alone, we have over 800
developers using the framework to build our self-service
Oracle EBusiness Suite applications, and that's not
counting are many external customers that ask their BC4J-related
questions in the Oracle Technet discussion forum for JDeveloper
and BC4J.

Here's a thread in our Oracle Technet discussion forum
where I help a user understand how concepts in the
Section 6.5 "Building the Storefront Model" chapter of Chuck Cavaness'
struts book from O'Reilly map to the built-in features of the BC4J
framework.

http://www.oracle.com/forums/thread.jsp?thread=55008&forum=83

Hope this helps.

P.S. Apologize in advance for some of the formatting glitches
     in the online posting, but the info there should all readble.
     (some bolding and bullet-points didn't show up right).

__________________________________________________________________
Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Java/XML Evangelist, Author
Simplify J2EE Development with the Oracle BC4J Framework
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
Building Oracle XML Apps, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp
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From: "Alireza Fattahi" <Al...@pdpsoft.com>
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Subject: Oracle 9i BC4J and Struts


| Hi,
| 
| Did any one have any experience with Oracle 9i BC4J and struts? I found it
| complicated Am I right? Does it make things more complicated or it worth a
| complete R&D :)
| 
| Alireza
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Re: Oracle 9i BC4J and Struts

[colin campbell <co...@yahoo.co.uk>]

 
There have been a number of posts on this forum
regarding this, which you can search.

I am someone who has also considered using both as my
customer is very pro "Oracle" ,on the basis that they
WILL survive the tight conditions hitting other app
server providers.

You will note some postings on this forum from Oracle
employees saying that they are the best thing since
sliced bread. As usual you ahve to take all this with
a
"wee" ( I'm Scottish) pince of salt.

So due to the "views" of my customer I use JDeveloper
(Oracle) for struts development. 

Now there are of course good general design patterns
for building sites and if these are say EJB based (
controller delegates to EJB session bean say) then
there are nice wizards for creating session beans if
you are new to all this.

Then we have lots of design patterns reagrding say EJB
performance where you might want say a "Fast Reader"
to read the data from whichever database. This was
indeed the view that there was "none better" than us
in Oracle 4J for doing this. (Again search this forum
,it was less than a week ago that he posted this
view).

I queried his views on whether the lightweight data
objects provided by this toolset were really superior
to say just using nice "Open " standards like local
interfaces, but to date no reply.

My own views on reading the references he provided and
related documentation is that they do have good design
patterns implemented in their toolset (4J) , but I
really wonder when the general standards offer me
nearly the same performance whether it is now worth
it.
I agree that before interfaces like "local interfaces"
became available many providers wrote such fast access
objects to get round the rmi overhead.

So I was interested, but not convinced, in using their
addons. 

I have trawled though their site for documents on
accessing EJB local interfaces via JNDI. In particular
I wanted the interface between my action object and
the session bean to be local. My experience with non
working links on their site, i gave up posting to
themlinks which go nowhere, or examples which are all
404s, and decided that probably somewhere out there
there is a very usefultoolset, but the documentation
and examples are absolute " ****cks".

As usual, the opinions of this writer are his/her own
,and not that of my customer or employeer, but the
rest of the development team would back me to the hilt
on this in any UK court case.

Happy New Year ,or as they say in Scotland 

" a guid new year to yin and awe" 

Colin C





 





--- Alireza Fattahi <Al...@pdpsoft.com>
wrote: > Hi,
> 
> Did any one have any experience with Oracle 9i BC4J
> and struts? I found it
> complicated Am I right? Does it make things more
> complicated or it worth a
> complete R&D :)
> 
> Alireza
> 
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail:  
> <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
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>  

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