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Posted to xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org by Cliff Schmidt <cl...@bea.com> on 2004/06/21 05:42:44 UTC
[VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
As all PPMC members should already be aware, there is a
vote taking place on the Incubator general list to determine
whether the XMLBeans project should graduate from the Incubator
and then be proposed to the Board as a TLP.
See http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@incubator.apache.org&by=thread&from=805470.
In parallel with that vote, I would like the XMLBeans PPMC to
vote on the resolution that would be proposed to the Board
to create the new XMLBeans TLP. Since I sent out a draft
resolution to this list a month ago (see below) and have not
heard any concerns about it, I'm assuming it is ready to be
voted on. I've attached the latest version of the
proposed resolution.
In addition to approving the resolution, we also need to
determine the initial list of PMC members and a chair. PMC
membership is open to all committers. Remember that the PMC
is the entity responsible to the Board for ensuring that the
project is in the best interests of the ASF. This means
providing oversight of the code base for any legal issues,
authorizing releases on behalf of the ASF, establishing and
maintaining a charter and a set of rules to ensure a healthy
community, and guiding the long-term direction for the
project.
If you are a committer and are interested in serving as a
member of the XMLBeans PMC, please indicate you are
interested when casting your vote. Also, please vote your
preference for the initial chair of the PMC, or indicate if
you are interested in volunteering as chair. Note that the
chair does not have any greater decision-making ability than
any other PMC member. The chair is just the person who keeps
things moving and helps get to a consensus. The chair is
also the liaison between the PMC and the Apache Board.
Finally, please vote following the form below.
PART A
------
[ ] +1 - The attached resolution should be submitted to the
Board for the formation of the XMLBeans project.
[ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I have a
recommendation to improve it.
-----------------------------------------------------------
PART B
------
[ ] I volunteer to be a member of the initial XMLBeans
PMC.
-----------------------------------------------------------
PART C
------
[ ] I nominate myself as chair
[ ] I nominate ______________
-----------------------------------------------------------
This vote will run ~96 hours, closing at 23:59 GMT, Tuesday
June 22, 2004 (extending to vote due to the weekend, but ending
before the upcoming Board meeting):
http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=22&month=6&year=2004&hour=23&min=59
Cliff
Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:49 PM:
> Forgot to attach the draft resolution that might be used if
> we chose to propose XMLBeans as a TLP. This was derived
> directly from something Berin put together for Xerces. I
> basically replaced "Xerces" with "XMLBeans" and "related
> to XML parsing" with "related to XML-Java binding". This
> latter phrase would be the key thing we'd need to agree
> described what the TLP would make charged with producing.
>
> Cliff
>
>
> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:31 PM:
>
>> There's been some discussion in the "XMLBeans out of incubator"
>> thread about whether XMLBeans should become a subproject within
>> the XML project when it completes (according to the original
>> proposal) or whether it should become a TLP. Also, if it
>> becomes a TLP, should it be part of the recently proposed XML
>> federation.
>>
>> In order to help people come to an informed opinion, I'll try
>> to provide a little background below. I've copied the PPMC
>> hoping that some of the XML PMC members, who make up our PPMC,
>> might voice their opinions, in addition to the more active
>> members of the XMLBeans community. And of course, anyone
>> thinking I've got something wrong here should jump in and correct me.
>>
>> - THE PMC OVERSIGHT SITUATION -
>> Around the time of last ApacheCon (as far as I remember),
>> a concern started being discussed about the ability for PMCs
>> to be able to continue to actively manage the creation and
>> maintenance of a growing number of products within their
>> project, as required by the ASF bylaws. While committers
>> commit to a code base and vote on things like new committers
>> and various technical issues, it's the PMC that is responsible
>> to the Board for ensuring the project is fulfilling its
>> purpose in contributing to the goals of the ASF (this also
>> includes protecting the ASF through legal oversight).
>>
>> - XML PROJECT RESPONSE -
>> The XML project has chosen to address this concern by turning
>> several of the larger subprojects into TLPs with their own
>> PMCs, which should be able to properly manage and oversee
>> the included products. Xerces, Xalan, and XML Security are
>> all examples of communities that have decided that it made
>> more sense to become independent TLPs, rather than stay
>> subprojects under the XML PMC.
>>
>> What changes with separate PMCs is that each project reports
>> directly to the Board and maintains its own self-governing
>> rules with its own charter. However, the XML projects felt
>> that, even as separate TLPs, they should maintain what they
>> had in common; this led to the idea of an "XML Federation".
>>
>> - THE FEDERATION -
>> The XML Federation is simply the set of XML-related TLPs that
>> continue to share a discussion list (general at xml.apache.
>> org) and some of the same infrastructure shared today, such
>> as the xml.apache.org web site and mailing list domain. One
>> idea behind the federation is it could minimize barriers to
>> cooperation that might otherwise come up between TLPs.
>> Another rationale would be for the federation to tie together
>> the various XML projects from a user's point of view (imagine
>> a new user looking for all the XML-related projects around Apache).
>>
>> - WHAT XMLBEANS MUST DECIDE -
>> 1. Become a subproject of XML, as originally planned, or become a
>> TLP?
>> 2. If becoming an independent TLP, join the federation or
>> not?
>>
>> - IF TLP, WHAT MUST XMLBEANS DO -
>> 1. Vote on the decision.
>> 2. Write a resolution for Board to vote on to create the
>> TLP (upon exiting the incubator), similar to the attached
>> (derived from Berin's suggestion to Xerces).
>> 3. Write a charter, setting up the rules, probably pretty
>> similar to what we've been operating under so far,
>> the XML project's charter:
>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-admin/charter.txt?rev=1.14&view=markup.
>> 4. Decide on who should make up the new PMC and who to
>> propose to the Board would be the first chair of the PMC.
>> This PMC would be responsible for making quarterly reports
>> to the Board, in addition to the other duties mentioned
>> above.
>>
>> Cliff
Re: [VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
Posted by David Waite <ma...@akuma.org>.
Correction:
I meant to volunteer for the PMC, new ballot below.
-David Waite
On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:02 AM, David Waite wrote:
Finally, please vote following the form below.
PART A
------
[ x ] +1 - The attached resolution should be submitted to the
Board for the formation of the XMLBeans project.
[ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I have a
recommendation to improve it.
-----------------------------------------------------------
PART B
------
[ x ] I volunteer to be a member of the initial XMLBeans
PMC.
-----------------------------------------------------------
PART C
------
[ ] I nominate myself as chair
[ x ] I nominate _Cliff Schmidt______
-----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> This vote will run ~96 hours, closing at 23:59 GMT, Tuesday
>> June 22, 2004 (extending to vote due to the weekend, but ending
>> before the upcoming Board meeting):
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?
>> day=22&month=6&year=2004&hour=23&min=59
>>
>>
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>>
>> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:49 PM:
>>
>>> Forgot to attach the draft resolution that might be used if
>>> we chose to propose XMLBeans as a TLP. This was derived
>>> directly from something Berin put together for Xerces. I
>>> basically replaced "Xerces" with "XMLBeans" and "related
>>> to XML parsing" with "related to XML-Java binding". This
>>> latter phrase would be the key thing we'd need to agree
>>> described what the TLP would make charged with producing.
>>>
>>> Cliff
>>>
>>>
>>> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:31 PM:
>>>
>>>> There's been some discussion in the "XMLBeans out of incubator"
>>>> thread about whether XMLBeans should become a subproject within
>>>> the XML project when it completes (according to the original
>>>> proposal) or whether it should become a TLP. Also, if it
>>>> becomes a TLP, should it be part of the recently proposed XML
>>>> federation.
>>>>
>>>> In order to help people come to an informed opinion, I'll try
>>>> to provide a little background below. I've copied the PPMC
>>>> hoping that some of the XML PMC members, who make up our PPMC,
>>>> might voice their opinions, in addition to the more active
>>>> members of the XMLBeans community. And of course, anyone
>>>> thinking I've got something wrong here should jump in and correct
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> - THE PMC OVERSIGHT SITUATION -
>>>> Around the time of last ApacheCon (as far as I remember),
>>>> a concern started being discussed about the ability for PMCs
>>>> to be able to continue to actively manage the creation and
>>>> maintenance of a growing number of products within their
>>>> project, as required by the ASF bylaws. While committers
>>>> commit to a code base and vote on things like new committers
>>>> and various technical issues, it's the PMC that is responsible
>>>> to the Board for ensuring the project is fulfilling its
>>>> purpose in contributing to the goals of the ASF (this also
>>>> includes protecting the ASF through legal oversight).
>>>>
>>>> - XML PROJECT RESPONSE -
>>>> The XML project has chosen to address this concern by turning
>>>> several of the larger subprojects into TLPs with their own
>>>> PMCs, which should be able to properly manage and oversee
>>>> the included products. Xerces, Xalan, and XML Security are
>>>> all examples of communities that have decided that it made
>>>> more sense to become independent TLPs, rather than stay
>>>> subprojects under the XML PMC.
>>>>
>>>> What changes with separate PMCs is that each project reports
>>>> directly to the Board and maintains its own self-governing
>>>> rules with its own charter. However, the XML projects felt
>>>> that, even as separate TLPs, they should maintain what they
>>>> had in common; this led to the idea of an "XML Federation".
>>>>
>>>> - THE FEDERATION -
>>>> The XML Federation is simply the set of XML-related TLPs that
>>>> continue to share a discussion list (general at xml.apache.
>>>> org) and some of the same infrastructure shared today, such
>>>> as the xml.apache.org web site and mailing list domain. One
>>>> idea behind the federation is it could minimize barriers to
>>>> cooperation that might otherwise come up between TLPs.
>>>> Another rationale would be for the federation to tie together
>>>> the various XML projects from a user's point of view (imagine
>>>> a new user looking for all the XML-related projects around Apache).
>>>>
>>>> - WHAT XMLBEANS MUST DECIDE -
>>>> 1. Become a subproject of XML, as originally planned, or become a
>>>> TLP?
>>>> 2. If becoming an independent TLP, join the federation or
>>>> not?
>>>>
>>>> - IF TLP, WHAT MUST XMLBEANS DO -
>>>> 1. Vote on the decision.
>>>> 2. Write a resolution for Board to vote on to create the
>>>> TLP (upon exiting the incubator), similar to the attached
>>>> (derived from Berin's suggestion to Xerces).
>>>> 3. Write a charter, setting up the rules, probably pretty
>>>> similar to what we've been operating under so far,
>>>> the XML project's charter:
>>>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-admin/charter.txt?
>>>> rev=1.14&view=markup.
>>>> 4. Decide on who should make up the new PMC and who to
>>>> propose to the Board would be the first chair of the PMC.
>>>> This PMC would be responsible for making quarterly reports
>>>> to the Board, in addition to the other duties mentioned
>>>> above.
>>>>
>>>> Cliff
>> <draft-xmlbeans-resolution.txt>-
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Re: [VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
Posted by David Waite <ma...@akuma.org>.
Correction:
I meant to volunteer for the PMC, new ballot below.
-David Waite
On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:02 AM, David Waite wrote:
Finally, please vote following the form below.
PART A
------
[ x ] +1 - The attached resolution should be submitted to the
Board for the formation of the XMLBeans project.
[ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I have a
recommendation to improve it.
-----------------------------------------------------------
PART B
------
[ x ] I volunteer to be a member of the initial XMLBeans
PMC.
-----------------------------------------------------------
PART C
------
[ ] I nominate myself as chair
[ x ] I nominate _Cliff Schmidt______
-----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> This vote will run ~96 hours, closing at 23:59 GMT, Tuesday
>> June 22, 2004 (extending to vote due to the weekend, but ending
>> before the upcoming Board meeting):
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?
>> day=22&month=6&year=2004&hour=23&min=59
>>
>>
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>>
>> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:49 PM:
>>
>>> Forgot to attach the draft resolution that might be used if
>>> we chose to propose XMLBeans as a TLP. This was derived
>>> directly from something Berin put together for Xerces. I
>>> basically replaced "Xerces" with "XMLBeans" and "related
>>> to XML parsing" with "related to XML-Java binding". This
>>> latter phrase would be the key thing we'd need to agree
>>> described what the TLP would make charged with producing.
>>>
>>> Cliff
>>>
>>>
>>> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:31 PM:
>>>
>>>> There's been some discussion in the "XMLBeans out of incubator"
>>>> thread about whether XMLBeans should become a subproject within
>>>> the XML project when it completes (according to the original
>>>> proposal) or whether it should become a TLP. Also, if it
>>>> becomes a TLP, should it be part of the recently proposed XML
>>>> federation.
>>>>
>>>> In order to help people come to an informed opinion, I'll try
>>>> to provide a little background below. I've copied the PPMC
>>>> hoping that some of the XML PMC members, who make up our PPMC,
>>>> might voice their opinions, in addition to the more active
>>>> members of the XMLBeans community. And of course, anyone
>>>> thinking I've got something wrong here should jump in and correct
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> - THE PMC OVERSIGHT SITUATION -
>>>> Around the time of last ApacheCon (as far as I remember),
>>>> a concern started being discussed about the ability for PMCs
>>>> to be able to continue to actively manage the creation and
>>>> maintenance of a growing number of products within their
>>>> project, as required by the ASF bylaws. While committers
>>>> commit to a code base and vote on things like new committers
>>>> and various technical issues, it's the PMC that is responsible
>>>> to the Board for ensuring the project is fulfilling its
>>>> purpose in contributing to the goals of the ASF (this also
>>>> includes protecting the ASF through legal oversight).
>>>>
>>>> - XML PROJECT RESPONSE -
>>>> The XML project has chosen to address this concern by turning
>>>> several of the larger subprojects into TLPs with their own
>>>> PMCs, which should be able to properly manage and oversee
>>>> the included products. Xerces, Xalan, and XML Security are
>>>> all examples of communities that have decided that it made
>>>> more sense to become independent TLPs, rather than stay
>>>> subprojects under the XML PMC.
>>>>
>>>> What changes with separate PMCs is that each project reports
>>>> directly to the Board and maintains its own self-governing
>>>> rules with its own charter. However, the XML projects felt
>>>> that, even as separate TLPs, they should maintain what they
>>>> had in common; this led to the idea of an "XML Federation".
>>>>
>>>> - THE FEDERATION -
>>>> The XML Federation is simply the set of XML-related TLPs that
>>>> continue to share a discussion list (general at xml.apache.
>>>> org) and some of the same infrastructure shared today, such
>>>> as the xml.apache.org web site and mailing list domain. One
>>>> idea behind the federation is it could minimize barriers to
>>>> cooperation that might otherwise come up between TLPs.
>>>> Another rationale would be for the federation to tie together
>>>> the various XML projects from a user's point of view (imagine
>>>> a new user looking for all the XML-related projects around Apache).
>>>>
>>>> - WHAT XMLBEANS MUST DECIDE -
>>>> 1. Become a subproject of XML, as originally planned, or become a
>>>> TLP?
>>>> 2. If becoming an independent TLP, join the federation or
>>>> not?
>>>>
>>>> - IF TLP, WHAT MUST XMLBEANS DO -
>>>> 1. Vote on the decision.
>>>> 2. Write a resolution for Board to vote on to create the
>>>> TLP (upon exiting the incubator), similar to the attached
>>>> (derived from Berin's suggestion to Xerces).
>>>> 3. Write a charter, setting up the rules, probably pretty
>>>> similar to what we've been operating under so far,
>>>> the XML project's charter:
>>>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-admin/charter.txt?
>>>> rev=1.14&view=markup.
>>>> 4. Decide on who should make up the new PMC and who to
>>>> propose to the Board would be the first chair of the PMC.
>>>> This PMC would be responsible for making quarterly reports
>>>> to the Board, in addition to the other duties mentioned
>>>> above.
>>>>
>>>> Cliff
>> <draft-xmlbeans-resolution.txt>-
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Re: [VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
Posted by David Waite <ma...@akuma.org>.
> Finally, please vote following the form below.
>
> PART A
> ------
> [ x ] +1 - The attached resolution should be submitted to the
> Board for the formation of the XMLBeans project.
>
> [ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I have a
> recommendation to improve it.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> PART B
> ------
> [ ] I volunteer to be a member of the initial XMLBeans
> PMC.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> PART C
> ------
> [ ] I nominate myself as chair
> [ x ] I nominate _Cliff Schmidt______
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> This vote will run ~96 hours, closing at 23:59 GMT, Tuesday
> June 22, 2004 (extending to vote due to the weekend, but ending
> before the upcoming Board meeting):
> http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?
> day=22&month=6&year=2004&hour=23&min=59
>
>
>
> Cliff
>
>
>
> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:49 PM:
>
>> Forgot to attach the draft resolution that might be used if
>> we chose to propose XMLBeans as a TLP. This was derived
>> directly from something Berin put together for Xerces. I
>> basically replaced "Xerces" with "XMLBeans" and "related
>> to XML parsing" with "related to XML-Java binding". This
>> latter phrase would be the key thing we'd need to agree
>> described what the TLP would make charged with producing.
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:31 PM:
>>
>>> There's been some discussion in the "XMLBeans out of incubator"
>>> thread about whether XMLBeans should become a subproject within
>>> the XML project when it completes (according to the original
>>> proposal) or whether it should become a TLP. Also, if it
>>> becomes a TLP, should it be part of the recently proposed XML
>>> federation.
>>>
>>> In order to help people come to an informed opinion, I'll try
>>> to provide a little background below. I've copied the PPMC
>>> hoping that some of the XML PMC members, who make up our PPMC,
>>> might voice their opinions, in addition to the more active
>>> members of the XMLBeans community. And of course, anyone
>>> thinking I've got something wrong here should jump in and correct me.
>>>
>>> - THE PMC OVERSIGHT SITUATION -
>>> Around the time of last ApacheCon (as far as I remember),
>>> a concern started being discussed about the ability for PMCs
>>> to be able to continue to actively manage the creation and
>>> maintenance of a growing number of products within their
>>> project, as required by the ASF bylaws. While committers
>>> commit to a code base and vote on things like new committers
>>> and various technical issues, it's the PMC that is responsible
>>> to the Board for ensuring the project is fulfilling its
>>> purpose in contributing to the goals of the ASF (this also
>>> includes protecting the ASF through legal oversight).
>>>
>>> - XML PROJECT RESPONSE -
>>> The XML project has chosen to address this concern by turning
>>> several of the larger subprojects into TLPs with their own
>>> PMCs, which should be able to properly manage and oversee
>>> the included products. Xerces, Xalan, and XML Security are
>>> all examples of communities that have decided that it made
>>> more sense to become independent TLPs, rather than stay
>>> subprojects under the XML PMC.
>>>
>>> What changes with separate PMCs is that each project reports
>>> directly to the Board and maintains its own self-governing
>>> rules with its own charter. However, the XML projects felt
>>> that, even as separate TLPs, they should maintain what they
>>> had in common; this led to the idea of an "XML Federation".
>>>
>>> - THE FEDERATION -
>>> The XML Federation is simply the set of XML-related TLPs that
>>> continue to share a discussion list (general at xml.apache.
>>> org) and some of the same infrastructure shared today, such
>>> as the xml.apache.org web site and mailing list domain. One
>>> idea behind the federation is it could minimize barriers to
>>> cooperation that might otherwise come up between TLPs.
>>> Another rationale would be for the federation to tie together
>>> the various XML projects from a user's point of view (imagine
>>> a new user looking for all the XML-related projects around Apache).
>>>
>>> - WHAT XMLBEANS MUST DECIDE -
>>> 1. Become a subproject of XML, as originally planned, or become a
>>> TLP?
>>> 2. If becoming an independent TLP, join the federation or
>>> not?
>>>
>>> - IF TLP, WHAT MUST XMLBEANS DO -
>>> 1. Vote on the decision.
>>> 2. Write a resolution for Board to vote on to create the
>>> TLP (upon exiting the incubator), similar to the attached
>>> (derived from Berin's suggestion to Xerces).
>>> 3. Write a charter, setting up the rules, probably pretty
>>> similar to what we've been operating under so far,
>>> the XML project's charter:
>>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-admin/charter.txt?
>>> rev=1.14&view=markup.
>>> 4. Decide on who should make up the new PMC and who to
>>> propose to the Board would be the first chair of the PMC.
>>> This PMC would be responsible for making quarterly reports
>>> to the Board, in addition to the other duties mentioned
>>> above.
>>>
>>> Cliff
> <draft-xmlbeans-resolution.txt>-
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Re: [VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
On Jun 20, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>
>
> PART A
> ------
> [x] +1 - The attached resolution should be submitted to the
> Board for the formation of the XMLBeans project.
>
> [ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I have a
> recommendation to improve it.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> PART B
> ------
> [x] I volunteer to be a member of the initial XMLBeans
> PMC.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> PART C
> ------
> [ ] I nominate myself as chair
> [x] I nominate _Cliff Schmidt_
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
Posted by David Waite <ma...@akuma.org>.
> Finally, please vote following the form below.
>
> PART A
> ------
> [ x ] +1 - The attached resolution should be submitted to the
> Board for the formation of the XMLBeans project.
>
> [ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I have a
> recommendation to improve it.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> PART B
> ------
> [ ] I volunteer to be a member of the initial XMLBeans
> PMC.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> PART C
> ------
> [ ] I nominate myself as chair
> [ x ] I nominate _Cliff Schmidt______
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> This vote will run ~96 hours, closing at 23:59 GMT, Tuesday
> June 22, 2004 (extending to vote due to the weekend, but ending
> before the upcoming Board meeting):
> http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?
> day=22&month=6&year=2004&hour=23&min=59
>
>
>
> Cliff
>
>
>
> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:49 PM:
>
>> Forgot to attach the draft resolution that might be used if
>> we chose to propose XMLBeans as a TLP. This was derived
>> directly from something Berin put together for Xerces. I
>> basically replaced "Xerces" with "XMLBeans" and "related
>> to XML parsing" with "related to XML-Java binding". This
>> latter phrase would be the key thing we'd need to agree
>> described what the TLP would make charged with producing.
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>> Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:31 PM:
>>
>>> There's been some discussion in the "XMLBeans out of incubator"
>>> thread about whether XMLBeans should become a subproject within
>>> the XML project when it completes (according to the original
>>> proposal) or whether it should become a TLP. Also, if it
>>> becomes a TLP, should it be part of the recently proposed XML
>>> federation.
>>>
>>> In order to help people come to an informed opinion, I'll try
>>> to provide a little background below. I've copied the PPMC
>>> hoping that some of the XML PMC members, who make up our PPMC,
>>> might voice their opinions, in addition to the more active
>>> members of the XMLBeans community. And of course, anyone
>>> thinking I've got something wrong here should jump in and correct me.
>>>
>>> - THE PMC OVERSIGHT SITUATION -
>>> Around the time of last ApacheCon (as far as I remember),
>>> a concern started being discussed about the ability for PMCs
>>> to be able to continue to actively manage the creation and
>>> maintenance of a growing number of products within their
>>> project, as required by the ASF bylaws. While committers
>>> commit to a code base and vote on things like new committers
>>> and various technical issues, it's the PMC that is responsible
>>> to the Board for ensuring the project is fulfilling its
>>> purpose in contributing to the goals of the ASF (this also
>>> includes protecting the ASF through legal oversight).
>>>
>>> - XML PROJECT RESPONSE -
>>> The XML project has chosen to address this concern by turning
>>> several of the larger subprojects into TLPs with their own
>>> PMCs, which should be able to properly manage and oversee
>>> the included products. Xerces, Xalan, and XML Security are
>>> all examples of communities that have decided that it made
>>> more sense to become independent TLPs, rather than stay
>>> subprojects under the XML PMC.
>>>
>>> What changes with separate PMCs is that each project reports
>>> directly to the Board and maintains its own self-governing
>>> rules with its own charter. However, the XML projects felt
>>> that, even as separate TLPs, they should maintain what they
>>> had in common; this led to the idea of an "XML Federation".
>>>
>>> - THE FEDERATION -
>>> The XML Federation is simply the set of XML-related TLPs that
>>> continue to share a discussion list (general at xml.apache.
>>> org) and some of the same infrastructure shared today, such
>>> as the xml.apache.org web site and mailing list domain. One
>>> idea behind the federation is it could minimize barriers to
>>> cooperation that might otherwise come up between TLPs.
>>> Another rationale would be for the federation to tie together
>>> the various XML projects from a user's point of view (imagine
>>> a new user looking for all the XML-related projects around Apache).
>>>
>>> - WHAT XMLBEANS MUST DECIDE -
>>> 1. Become a subproject of XML, as originally planned, or become a
>>> TLP?
>>> 2. If becoming an independent TLP, join the federation or
>>> not?
>>>
>>> - IF TLP, WHAT MUST XMLBEANS DO -
>>> 1. Vote on the decision.
>>> 2. Write a resolution for Board to vote on to create the
>>> TLP (upon exiting the incubator), similar to the attached
>>> (derived from Berin's suggestion to Xerces).
>>> 3. Write a charter, setting up the rules, probably pretty
>>> similar to what we've been operating under so far,
>>> the XML project's charter:
>>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-admin/charter.txt?
>>> rev=1.14&view=markup.
>>> 4. Decide on who should make up the new PMC and who to
>>> propose to the Board would be the first chair of the PMC.
>>> This PMC would be responsible for making quarterly reports
>>> to the Board, in addition to the other duties mentioned
>>> above.
>>>
>>> Cliff
> <draft-xmlbeans-resolution.txt>-
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Re: [VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
On Jun 20, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>
>
> PART A
> ------
> [x] +1 - The attached resolution should be submitted to the
> Board for the formation of the XMLBeans project.
>
> [ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I have a
> recommendation to improve it.
>
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> PART B
> ------
> [x] I volunteer to be a member of the initial XMLBeans
> PMC.
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> PART C
> ------
> [ ] I nominate myself as chair
> [x] I nominate _Cliff Schmidt_
>
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Re: [VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
Posted by Dutta Satadip <s-...@sbcglobal.net>.
>
> PART A
> ------
> [ X] +1 - The attached resolution should be
submitted
> to the
> Board for the formation of the XMLBeans
> project.
>
> [ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I
> have a
> recommendation to improve it.
>
>
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> PART B
> ------
> [X ] I volunteer to be a member of the initial
> XMLBeans
> PMC.
>
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> PART C
> ------
> [ ] I nominate myself as chair
> [ X] I nominate Cliff S
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] TLP Resolution for XMLBeans (was RE: Post-Incubation Destination for XMLBeans)
Posted by Dutta Satadip <s-...@sbcglobal.net>.
>
> PART A
> ------
> [ X] +1 - The attached resolution should be
submitted
> to the
> Board for the formation of the XMLBeans
> project.
>
> [ ] -1 - The attached resolution is not suitable. I
> have a
> recommendation to improve it.
>
>
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> PART B
> ------
> [X ] I volunteer to be a member of the initial
> XMLBeans
> PMC.
>
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> PART C
> ------
> [ ] I nominate myself as chair
> [ X] I nominate Cliff S
>
>
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