is webdav really usefull?

[Nina Pham <ni...@gibbons.com>]

I just upgrade my svn server to version 1.2 on my fedora core 2 server 
and also try to use webdav autoversioning. I have some issues using 
webdav autoversioning on my XP PC which makes me not so sure about how 
useful webdav is.
 I added a network place to add my repository.
    1. The folder appears and I have to copy files that I want to change 
to another place to be able to edit then copy back to the original folder.
    2. Can not give the logging comments.

I think it would take less time to just checkout using either https, or 
samba. One doesn't have to do copy, edit, and recopy, and you can 
provide comments when doing commit. In addition, there are more things 
you can do from https/samba checkout working copy than webdav.
Please correct if I'm wrong.



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Re: is webdav really usefull?

[Kyle Kline <ky...@gmail.com>]

WebDAV is *very* useful ... esp. on a team of non-technical people managing 
a large amount of content. They don't need full version control, but is a 
must-have to be able to look at histories when needed. I am using WebDrive + 
SVN WebDAV for some non-software projects and have nothing but good things 
to say about it -- SVN functions as an awesome versioned file system. The 
solution even works well over VPN and lower bandwidth connections. (Much 
faster to browse a mounted WebDAV folder over a low-bandwidth connection 
than a Windows fileshare!)

-Kyle

On 6/8/05, Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Jun 8, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Eric Gorr wrote:
> 
> > Nina Pham wrote:
> >
> >> I just upgrade my svn server to version 1.2 on my fedora core 2
> >> server and also try to use webdav autoversioning. I have some
> >> issues using webdav autoversioning on my XP PC which makes me not
> >> so sure about how useful webdav is.
> >>
> >
> > Without full DeltaV support, I don't find it terribly useful.
> >
> 
> The point of autoversioning is to *hide* version control from non-
> technical users. In my world, that's pretty amazingly useful. :-)
> 
> If subversion had full DeltaV support, the only thing you'd get is
> the ability to use a complex 3rd-party program to perform version
> control, instead of the normal svn client. That's something only
> technical users might want. I've never heard anyone ask for that;
> is that really what you're looking for? And if so, what commercial
> DeltaV client do you want to use against a subversion server?
> 
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Re: is webdav really usefull?

[Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>]

On Jun 8, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Eric Gorr wrote:

> Nina Pham wrote:
>
>> I just upgrade my svn server to version 1.2 on my fedora core 2  
>> server and also try to use webdav autoversioning. I have some  
>> issues using webdav autoversioning on my XP PC which makes me not  
>> so sure about how useful webdav is.
>>
>
> Without full DeltaV support, I don't find it terribly useful.
>

The point of autoversioning is to *hide* version control from non- 
technical users.  In my world, that's pretty amazingly useful.  :-)

If subversion had full DeltaV support, the only thing you'd get is  
the ability to use a complex 3rd-party program to perform version  
control, instead of the normal svn client.  That's something only  
technical users might want.  I've never heard anyone ask for that;   
is that really what you're looking for?  And if so, what commercial  
DeltaV client do you want to use against a subversion server?


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Re: is webdav really usefull?

[Eric Gorr <ma...@ericgorr.net>]

Nina Pham wrote:
> I just upgrade my svn server to version 1.2 on my fedora core 2 server 
> and also try to use webdav autoversioning. I have some issues using 
> webdav autoversioning on my XP PC which makes me not so sure about how 
> useful webdav is.

Without full DeltaV support, I don't find it terribly useful.


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Re: is webdav really usefull?

[Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>]

On Jun 8, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Nina Pham wrote:

> I just upgrade my svn server to version 1.2 on my fedora core 2  
> server and also try to use webdav autoversioning. I have some  
> issues using webdav autoversioning on my XP PC which makes me not  
> so sure about how useful webdav is.
> I added a network place to add my repository.
>    1. The folder appears and I have to copy files that I want to  
> change to another place to be able to edit then copy back to the  
> original folder.
>    2. Can not give the logging comments.
>
> I think it would take less time to just checkout using either  
> https, or samba. One doesn't have to do copy, edit, and recopy, and  
> you can provide comments when doing commit. In addition, there are  
> more things you can do from https/samba checkout working copy than  
> webdav.
> Please correct if I'm wrong.
>

Please read this newly rewritten book explanation of autoversioning,  
especially the Webfolders section:

    http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.webdav.clients.html

In short, XP 'network place' is a lousy dav client, not able to do  
much.  If you were to get a better DAV client like netdrive or  
webdrive, then every application could use webdav transparently.  The  
repository would appear to be a drive letter.


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