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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Johannes Artur Bertscheit <Jo...@t-online.de> on 2001/12/03 02:36:33 UTC
WIN32-apache 1.3.x (windows NT) problem of serving concurrent https requests
Hi all,
Does anyone know something about the following
WIN32-apache-modssl and/or WIN32-apache problem as described below?
In short:
It seems that any WIN32-apache (I tried) has this problem:
They cannot display pages (I need mainly https:// but also tried
http://) with many images in a RELIABLE manner.
That means if you SHIFT-RELOAD the page several times
(10x, 20x, 50x.), the apache process crashes once in a while and is
restarted after some time.
In this time the server is not accessable and images remain empty or the
page itself says "unable to load page"
I had this effekt on the following apache servers:
- WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.6
- WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.9
- WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.20
- WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.22
- IBM http server 1.3.19 - based on apache 1.3.20 (without mod_ssl - but
with own IBM-ssl-128)
I also tried cygwin-based apaches:
- cygwin apache 1.3.6 mod_ssl
- cygwin camp 1.3.20 mod_ssl
The cygwin-based show NOT this effect - but have other problems
(sporadic hangs of the cygwin-apache and/or cygwin-system) which do not
allow to use them.
The only RELIABLE SSL-web server on windows-nt I found yet is
"tinyssl" (also based on openssl) - it is solid as a rock - but it has
not the functionality I need (ProxyPass, RewriteRule, mod_jserv...).
The problem is closely associated with concurrent requests
(to load the images) to the server.
So it is a bug in the thread/process- sychronisation of WIN32-apache
versions and I think in the core-apache,
because apache crashes occur also if you redirect the image loading to
another SSL-server (with ProxyPass) and
also if you use http:// instead of http://..
I need to get a RELIABLE apache-based mod-ssl web server for windows NT
but havent found such a thing yet...
Do you know a RELIABLE (no hangs!, no crashes!) running
WIN32-apache-mod-
ssl installation anywhere?
Is there a solution for this problem?
Thanks in advance
Johannes
Here is a posting to mod_ssl which describes the crashes of WIN32-apache
1.3.20 in more detail:
Subject:
WIN32-apache 1.3.20 (windows NT) problem of serving concurrent
https requests
Date:
Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:20:58 +0100
From:
Johann.Bertscheit@t-online.de (Johannes Artur Bertscheit)
Reply-To:
jbertscheit@web.de
Organization:
JB Management & Consulting
To:
modssl-users@modssl.org
CC:
jbertscheit@web.de
Hi all,
I use
Apache_1.3.20-Mod_SSL_2.8.4-OpenSSL_0.9.6a-WIN32.zip
from your contribution area
(
http://www.modssl.org/contrib/Apache_1.3.20-Mod_SSL_2.8.4-OpenSSL_0.9.6a-
WIN32.zip
)
when serving SSL pages under this WIN32-apache 1.3.20 under windows NT
e.g: html page with 20 images
or html-frame with 1 image
and I SHIFT-RELOAD these pages several times
(with IE5.5 or netscape4.78 dont matters)
(it depends on timing conditions if the crash will occur -
so several tries - up to 10- may be neccessary)
then I get the following Dr.Watson crashes:
FAULT ->6ffa1522 8b5104 mov edx,[ecx+0x4]
ds:00dfea06=????????
FAULT ->10007587 8b0491 mov eax,[ecx+edx*4]
ds:00000017=????????
because if Apache.exe's are restarted automatically,
the server continues to server after some delay and maybe
anoher SHIFT-RELOAD may show all images/frames.
I think its a problem of serving concurrent https requests
(several images / several frames).
Are there known problems in this area???
How can the problem be fixed?
I tried almost all configuration settings
(e.g. SSLSessionCache on/off, nokeepalive on/off...)
with no effect.
Thanks in advance!
Johannes
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Re: WIN32-apache 1.3.x (windows NT) problem of serving concurrent https requests
Posted by amol <am...@yahoo.com>.
i have just recently moved to apache from IIS ( and to tomcat from some
other engine )
i am on WinNT and facing similar crashes.
apache and tomcat, both are working fine independently. but after the
mod_webapp connection, apache has started crashing very often and mostly,
when i try reloading a page. also, while its crashing, it just stops working
for a few seconds and then crashes.
i am not using SSL.
using tomcat4.0.1, apache 1.3.22 on WinNt4, service pack 6
any inputs, comments, suggestions?
thnx
amol
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johannes Artur Bertscheit" <Jo...@t-online.de>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 7:06 AM
Subject: WIN32-apache 1.3.x (windows NT) problem of serving concurrent https
requests
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know something about the following
> WIN32-apache-modssl and/or WIN32-apache problem as described below?
>
> In short:
> It seems that any WIN32-apache (I tried) has this problem:
> They cannot display pages (I need mainly https:// but also tried
> http://) with many images in a RELIABLE manner.
>
> That means if you SHIFT-RELOAD the page several times
> (10x, 20x, 50x.), the apache process crashes once in a while and is
> restarted after some time.
> In this time the server is not accessable and images remain empty or the
> page itself says "unable to load page"
> I had this effekt on the following apache servers:
> - WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.6
> - WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.9
> - WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.20
> - WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.22
> - IBM http server 1.3.19 - based on apache 1.3.20 (without mod_ssl - but
> with own IBM-ssl-128)
> I also tried cygwin-based apaches:
> - cygwin apache 1.3.6 mod_ssl
> - cygwin camp 1.3.20 mod_ssl
> The cygwin-based show NOT this effect - but have other problems
> (sporadic hangs of the cygwin-apache and/or cygwin-system) which do not
> allow to use them.
> The only RELIABLE SSL-web server on windows-nt I found yet is
> "tinyssl" (also based on openssl) - it is solid as a rock - but it has
> not the functionality I need (ProxyPass, RewriteRule, mod_jserv...).
>
> The problem is closely associated with concurrent requests
> (to load the images) to the server.
> So it is a bug in the thread/process- sychronisation of WIN32-apache
> versions and I think in the core-apache,
> because apache crashes occur also if you redirect the image loading to
> another SSL-server (with ProxyPass) and
> also if you use http:// instead of http://..
>
> I need to get a RELIABLE apache-based mod-ssl web server for windows NT
> but havent found such a thing yet...
>
> Do you know a RELIABLE (no hangs!, no crashes!) running
> WIN32-apache-mod-
> ssl installation anywhere?
> Is there a solution for this problem?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Johannes
>
> Here is a posting to mod_ssl which describes the crashes of WIN32-apache
> 1.3.20 in more detail:
>
> Subject:
> WIN32-apache 1.3.20 (windows NT) problem of serving concurrent
> https requests
> Date:
> Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:20:58 +0100
> From:
> Johann.Bertscheit@t-online.de (Johannes Artur Bertscheit)
> Reply-To:
> jbertscheit@web.de
> Organization:
> JB Management & Consulting
> To:
> modssl-users@modssl.org
> CC:
> jbertscheit@web.de
>
> Hi all,
>
> I use
> Apache_1.3.20-Mod_SSL_2.8.4-OpenSSL_0.9.6a-WIN32.zip
> from your contribution area
> (
>
> http://www.modssl.org/contrib/Apache_1.3.20-Mod_SSL_2.8.4-OpenSSL_0.9.6a-
> WIN32.zip
>
> )
>
> when serving SSL pages under this WIN32-apache 1.3.20 under windows NT
> e.g: html page with 20 images
> or html-frame with 1 image
> and I SHIFT-RELOAD these pages several times
> (with IE5.5 or netscape4.78 dont matters)
> (it depends on timing conditions if the crash will occur -
> so several tries - up to 10- may be neccessary)
> then I get the following Dr.Watson crashes:
>
> FAULT ->6ffa1522 8b5104 mov edx,[ecx+0x4]
> ds:00dfea06=????????
>
> FAULT ->10007587 8b0491 mov eax,[ecx+edx*4]
> ds:00000017=????????
>
> because if Apache.exe's are restarted automatically,
> the server continues to server after some delay and maybe
> anoher SHIFT-RELOAD may show all images/frames.
>
> I think its a problem of serving concurrent https requests
> (several images / several frames).
> Are there known problems in this area???
> How can the problem be fixed?
> I tried almost all configuration settings
> (e.g. SSLSessionCache on/off, nokeepalive on/off...)
> with no effect.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Johannes
>
>
>
>
>
>
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