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Looking for a Champion
I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
Can somebody help me?
Thanks for your consideration.
Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
Would this batch application be an implementation of the Java Batch API
(from Java EE 7)?
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marcel Offermans <
marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is about,
> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to make
> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hey Alexei,
> >>
> >> Yes, it does.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Andy,
> >>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> >>> --
> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> >>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration
> with
> >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> >>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> >>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
> >>>> though)
> >>>> The architecture is very different.
> >>>>
> >>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several
> >>> years.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> >>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> S
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
I usually point to the script & jenkins config SCM for that task.
06.06.2013 10:54 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com> написал:
> Jenkins is used to build software projects. It's a continuous integration
> server.
> Tashlin will be more generic, used to build any set of tasks. Also business
> processes are possible.
>
> Example: Let's say I want a job to do a HTTP GET call every 5 minutes and
> show the results.
> In Jenkins, I'll probably create a free-style project, but it asks me for a
> SCM which makes no sense for this scenario.
> I think a lot of people today hack around the fact that Jenkins is a
> continuous integration server, because it is easy to use and to setup
> scheduling tasks.
>
> If we make a generic platform we can create a one stop shop for all
> schedeling tasks.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > There is no requirement to be different to join, I just wonder
> > 06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
> > andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com> написал:
> >
> > > My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things
> up:
> > >
> > > Abstract
> > > Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch
> > jobs
> > > via a web user interface.
> > >
> > > Brief Description
> > > Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone
> > application
> > > for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will
> provide
> > a
> > > simple workflow
> > > which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided
> > plugins
> > > for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that
> it
> > > can be used in a
> > > more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the
> possibities.
> > > (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> > > Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
> > >
> > > The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> > > Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> > > executed by a Job
> > > Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an
> > exception
> > > is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are
> thrown
> > to
> > > notify interested parties)
> > > Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> > > through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> > > Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> > > cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> > > Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> > > recipes can be reused
> > >
> > > Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration
> > as
> > > an example.
> > > Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> > > I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion',
> 'Build
> > > With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> > > I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> > > value 'clean install'
> > > The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the
> > value
> > > will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> > > Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value
> > 'clean
> > > test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
> > >
> > > Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> > > project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate
> stuff
> > > and see the results of it.
> > > I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to
> > make
> > > > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to
> > prepare
> > > an
> > > > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > > > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to
> know
> > > > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and
> how
> > > >
> > > > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > > > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at
> [1]
> > > make
> > > > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to
> see
> > > if
> > > > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> +1 @Marcel
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can
> > help
> > > > or
> > > > >> not ?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > > > >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in
> > the
> > > > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project
> is
> > > > >>> about,
> > > > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not
> enough
> > to
> > > > >>> make
> > > > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > > >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > > >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > > >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hey Alexei,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Yes, it does.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Andy,
> > > > >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > > >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > > >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > > >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > > >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides
> > > integration
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> with
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> > > > >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support
> > for
> > > > >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> > > > Integration
> > > > >>>>>>> though)
> > > > >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
> > > > several
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> years.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <
> > simon.lucy@bbc.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling
> > > application.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to
> Hudson/Jenkins?
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> S
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Jorg Heymans <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jenkins is used to build software projects. It's a continuous integration
> server.
> Tashlin will be more generic, used to build any set of tasks. Also business
> processes are possible.
>
> Example: Let's say I want a job to do a HTTP GET call every 5 minutes and
> show the results.
> In Jenkins, I'll probably create a free-style project, but it asks me for a
> SCM which makes no sense for this scenario.
> I think a lot of people today hack around the fact that Jenkins is a
> continuous integration server, because it is easy to use and to setup
> scheduling tasks.
Hi Andy,
It's more something like Control-M right [1] you're looking to build ?
Not wanting to curb your enthousiasm in any way, but would it not be
easier to piggyback the huge amount of framework code Jenkins already
has in place and just extend it with a new project type + a plugin ?
You'll be getting a lot of things for free that are tricky to get
right (think slave and remoting), not to mention the platform's
popularity and community.
Kind Regards,
Jorg Heymans
[1] http://www.bmc.com/products/control-m-workload-automation/job-scheduling-software.html
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
There is no requirement in Jenkins to extend AbstractProject if you don't
need a SCM. For example we have a number of proprietary plugins that extend
from different points in the Jenkins object tree, e.g. TopLevelItem, Job,
etc depending on how much code reuse is required.
I am not knocking your proposal, but just pointing out that the
"limitations" in focus that you see with Jenkins are, from my perspective,
just limitations in imagination/knowledge as to where in the Jenkins object
tree to extend from.
I think KK sees Jenkins as a generic task scheduler with a set of default
tasks centred around CI, certainly he has felt that way since I first had
IRC chats with him in 2007-8, so it's not a "new" thing from my perspective.
OTOH if you already have a good code base or even a good itch that you feel
needs scratching and this is the best way for you to scratch that itch, go
for it...
>From my perspective, if I felt that selecting SCM = None was too ugly for
me, I'd just knock up a Jenkins plugin that extends earlier in the object
tree (mind you I have written about 3-4 such plugins by now, so I know the
tricks)... the advantage with that tack is you get to leverage a large user
base... the disadvantage is you have to deal with jelly and stapler and
KK's lack of gröking how Maven works (which results in some Maven
anti-patterns in Jenkins and the Jenkins tooling... but he is getting
better ;-) )
On 6 June 2013 07:53, Andy Van Den Heuvel <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Jenkins is used to build software projects. It's a continuous integration
> server.
> Tashlin will be more generic, used to build any set of tasks. Also business
> processes are possible.
>
> Example: Let's say I want a job to do a HTTP GET call every 5 minutes and
> show the results.
> In Jenkins, I'll probably create a free-style project, but it asks me for a
> SCM which makes no sense for this scenario.
> I think a lot of people today hack around the fact that Jenkins is a
> continuous integration server, because it is easy to use and to setup
> scheduling tasks.
>
> If we make a generic platform we can create a one stop shop for all
> schedeling tasks.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > There is no requirement to be different to join, I just wonder
> > 06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
> > andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com> написал:
> >
> > > My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things
> up:
> > >
> > > Abstract
> > > Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch
> > jobs
> > > via a web user interface.
> > >
> > > Brief Description
> > > Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone
> > application
> > > for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will
> provide
> > a
> > > simple workflow
> > > which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided
> > plugins
> > > for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that
> it
> > > can be used in a
> > > more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the
> possibities.
> > > (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> > > Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
> > >
> > > The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> > > Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> > > executed by a Job
> > > Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an
> > exception
> > > is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are
> thrown
> > to
> > > notify interested parties)
> > > Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> > > through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> > > Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> > > cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> > > Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> > > recipes can be reused
> > >
> > > Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration
> > as
> > > an example.
> > > Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> > > I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion',
> 'Build
> > > With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> > > I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> > > value 'clean install'
> > > The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the
> > value
> > > will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> > > Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value
> > 'clean
> > > test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
> > >
> > > Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> > > project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate
> stuff
> > > and see the results of it.
> > > I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to
> > make
> > > > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to
> > prepare
> > > an
> > > > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > > > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to
> know
> > > > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and
> how
> > > >
> > > > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > > > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at
> [1]
> > > make
> > > > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to
> see
> > > if
> > > > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> +1 @Marcel
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can
> > help
> > > > or
> > > > >> not ?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > > > >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in
> > the
> > > > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project
> is
> > > > >>> about,
> > > > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not
> enough
> > to
> > > > >>> make
> > > > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > > >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > > >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > > >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hey Alexei,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Yes, it does.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Andy,
> > > > >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > > >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > > >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > > >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > > >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides
> > > integration
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> with
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> > > > >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support
> > for
> > > > >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> > > > Integration
> > > > >>>>>>> though)
> > > > >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
> > > > several
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> years.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <
> > simon.lucy@bbc.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling
> > > application.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to
> Hudson/Jenkins?
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> S
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > ------------------------------****----------------------------**
> > > > >>> --**---------
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****
> > > apache.org<
> > > > >>>>>>>>
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> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>>
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> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> **org<
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org <
> > > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > --
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> > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > ----
> > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > moving"
> > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Andy Van Den Heuvel <an...@gmail.com>.
Jenkins is used to build software projects. It's a continuous integration
server.
Tashlin will be more generic, used to build any set of tasks. Also business
processes are possible.
Example: Let's say I want a job to do a HTTP GET call every 5 minutes and
show the results.
In Jenkins, I'll probably create a free-style project, but it asks me for a
SCM which makes no sense for this scenario.
I think a lot of people today hack around the fact that Jenkins is a
continuous integration server, because it is easy to use and to setup
scheduling tasks.
If we make a generic platform we can create a one stop shop for all
schedeling tasks.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> There is no requirement to be different to join, I just wonder
> 06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
> andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com> написал:
>
> > My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
> >
> > Abstract
> > Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch
> jobs
> > via a web user interface.
> >
> > Brief Description
> > Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone
> application
> > for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide
> a
> > simple workflow
> > which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided
> plugins
> > for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
> > can be used in a
> > more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
> > (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> > Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
> >
> > The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> > Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> > executed by a Job
> > Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an
> exception
> > is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown
> to
> > notify interested parties)
> > Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> > through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> > Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> > cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> > Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> > recipes can be reused
> >
> > Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration
> as
> > an example.
> > Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> > I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
> > With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> > I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> > value 'clean install'
> > The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the
> value
> > will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> > Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value
> 'clean
> > test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
> >
> > Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> > project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
> > and see the results of it.
> > I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to
> make
> > > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to
> prepare
> > an
> > > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> > > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
> > >
> > > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1]
> > make
> > > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see
> > if
> > > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> > >
> > > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> +1 @Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can
> help
> > > or
> > > >> not ?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > > >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in
> the
> > > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> > > >>> about,
> > > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough
> to
> > > >>> make
> > > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Hey Alexei,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Yes, it does.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Andy,
> > > >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides
> > integration
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> with
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> > > >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support
> for
> > > >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> > > Integration
> > > >>>>>>> though)
> > > >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
> > > several
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> years.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <
> simon.lucy@bbc.co.uk
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling
> > application.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> S
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
> > > >>> --**---------
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****
> > apache.org<
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> **org<
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org <
> > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
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> > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**
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> > > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > > **org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
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> > > >>>> ---------
> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**
> apache.org<
> > > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > **org<
> > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> > > >>> ---------
> > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org
> <
> > > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > **org<
> > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**---------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> **org<
> > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > ----
> > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > moving"
> > > - Albert Einstein
> > >
> >
>
Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Andy Van Den Heuvel <an...@gmail.com>.
This discussion has taugh me a lot.
I understand that the current idea may not be suited for a proposal yet and
I have some extra investigation to do.
Please feel free to contact me, if you are interested to work on this
togheter.
Thank you all for your professional insight and feedback.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> There is no requirement to be different to join the ASF or the
> incubator, but if you want to attract mentors, then there needs to be
> something compelling in a proposal to justify the energy that mentors
> will give to the project over time. That is what Andy needs to do - show
> what his offering has that 'competitors' don't, such that potential
> mentors will feel motivated to support the project.
>
> Upayavira
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013, at 07:17 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> > There is no requirement to be different to join, I just wonder
> > 06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
> > andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com> написал:
> >
> > > My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things
> up:
> > >
> > > Abstract
> > > Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch
> jobs
> > > via a web user interface.
> > >
> > > Brief Description
> > > Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone
> application
> > > for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will
> provide a
> > > simple workflow
> > > which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided
> plugins
> > > for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that
> it
> > > can be used in a
> > > more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the
> possibities.
> > > (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> > > Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
> > >
> > > The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> > > Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> > > executed by a Job
> > > Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an
> exception
> > > is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are
> thrown to
> > > notify interested parties)
> > > Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> > > through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> > > Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> > > cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> > > Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> > > recipes can be reused
> > >
> > > Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous
> integration as
> > > an example.
> > > Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> > > I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion',
> 'Build
> > > With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> > > I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> > > value 'clean install'
> > > The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the
> value
> > > will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> > > Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value
> 'clean
> > > test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
> > >
> > > Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> > > project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate
> stuff
> > > and see the results of it.
> > > I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to
> make
> > > > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to
> prepare
> > > an
> > > > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > > > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to
> know
> > > > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and
> how
> > > >
> > > > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > > > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at
> [1]
> > > make
> > > > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to
> see
> > > if
> > > > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> +1 @Marcel
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can
> help
> > > > or
> > > > >> not ?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > > > >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in
> the
> > > > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project
> is
> > > > >>> about,
> > > > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not
> enough to
> > > > >>> make
> > > > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > > >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > > >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > > >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hey Alexei,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Yes, it does.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Andy,
> > > > >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > > >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > > >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > > >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > > >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides
> > > integration
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> with
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> > > > >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support
> for
> > > > >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> > > > Integration
> > > > >>>>>>> though)
> > > > >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
> > > > several
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> years.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <
> simon.lucy@bbc.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling
> > > application.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to
> Hudson/Jenkins?
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> S
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
> > > > >>> --**---------
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****
> > > apache.org<
> > > > >>>>>>>>
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> > > > >>>>>>
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> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> **org<
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org <
> > > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > > >>>>>> >
> > > > >>>>>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
There is no requirement to be different to join the ASF or the
incubator, but if you want to attract mentors, then there needs to be
something compelling in a proposal to justify the energy that mentors
will give to the project over time. That is what Andy needs to do - show
what his offering has that 'competitors' don't, such that potential
mentors will feel motivated to support the project.
Upayavira
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013, at 07:17 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> There is no requirement to be different to join, I just wonder
> 06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
> andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com> написал:
>
> > My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
> >
> > Abstract
> > Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch jobs
> > via a web user interface.
> >
> > Brief Description
> > Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone application
> > for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide a
> > simple workflow
> > which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided plugins
> > for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
> > can be used in a
> > more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
> > (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> > Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
> >
> > The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> > Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> > executed by a Job
> > Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an exception
> > is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown to
> > notify interested parties)
> > Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> > through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> > Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> > cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> > Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> > recipes can be reused
> >
> > Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration as
> > an example.
> > Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> > I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
> > With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> > I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> > value 'clean install'
> > The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the value
> > will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> > Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value 'clean
> > test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
> >
> > Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> > project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
> > and see the results of it.
> > I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
> > > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare
> > an
> > > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> > > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
> > >
> > > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1]
> > make
> > > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see
> > if
> > > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> > >
> > > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> +1 @Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help
> > > or
> > > >> not ?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > > >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> > > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> > > >>> about,
> > > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
> > > >>> make
> > > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Hey Alexei,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Yes, it does.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Andy,
> > > >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > > >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > > >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides
> > integration
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> with
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> > > >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> > > >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> > > Integration
> > > >>>>>>> though)
> > > >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
> > > several
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> years.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <simon.lucy@bbc.co.uk
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling
> > application.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> S
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
> > > >>> --**---------
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****
> > apache.org<
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>
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> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> **org<
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org <
> > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
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> > > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > **org<
> > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
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> > > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > **org<
> > > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > ----
> > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > moving"
> > > - Albert Einstein
> > >
> >
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
There is no requirement to be different to join, I just wonder
06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com> написал:
> My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
>
> Abstract
> Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch jobs
> via a web user interface.
>
> Brief Description
> Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone application
> for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide a
> simple workflow
> which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided plugins
> for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
> can be used in a
> more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
> (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
>
> The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> executed by a Job
> Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an exception
> is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown to
> notify interested parties)
> Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> recipes can be reused
>
> Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration as
> an example.
> Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
> With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> value 'clean install'
> The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the value
> will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value 'clean
> test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
>
> Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
> and see the results of it.
> I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
> > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare
> an
> > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
> >
> > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1]
> make
> > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see
> if
> > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1 @Marcel
> > >>
> > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help
> > or
> > >> not ?
> > >>
> > >
> > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> > >>> about,
> > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
> > >>> make
> > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > >>>
> > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hey Alexei,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yes, it does.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Andy,
> > >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides
> integration
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> with
> > >>>
> > >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> > >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> > >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> > Integration
> > >>>>>>> though)
> > >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
> > several
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> years.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <simon.lucy@bbc.co.uk
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling
> application.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> S
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
> > >>> --**---------
> > >>>
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****
> apache.org<
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> **org<
> > >>>
> > >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org <
> > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> > >>>>>> ---------
> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**
> apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > **org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> **org<
> > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
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> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> **org<
> > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
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> > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
> > ----
> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> > - Albert Einstein
> >
>
Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
So what makes it different from jenkins?
06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com> написал:
> My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
>
> Abstract
> Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch jobs
> via a web user interface.
>
> Brief Description
> Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone application
> for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide a
> simple workflow
> which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided plugins
> for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
> can be used in a
> more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
> (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
>
> The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> executed by a Job
> Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an exception
> is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown to
> notify interested parties)
> Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> recipes can be reused
>
> Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration as
> an example.
> Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
> With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> value 'clean install'
> The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the value
> will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value 'clean
> test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
>
> Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
> and see the results of it.
> I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
> > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare
> an
> > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
> >
> > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1]
> make
> > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see
> if
> > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1 @Marcel
> > >>
> > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help
> > or
> > >> not ?
> > >>
> > >
> > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> > >>> about,
> > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
> > >>> make
> > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > >>>
> > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hey Alexei,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yes, it does.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Andy,
> > >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> > >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides
> integration
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> with
> > >>>
> > >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> > >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> > >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> > Integration
> > >>>>>>> though)
> > >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
> > several
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> years.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <simon.lucy@bbc.co.uk
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling
> application.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> S
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
> > >>> --**---------
> > >>>
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****
> apache.org<
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> **org<
> > >>>
> > >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org <
> > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> > >>>>>> ---------
> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**
> apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> > **org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> > >>>> ---------
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> **org<
> > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> > >>> ---------
> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> **org<
> > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org<
> > general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
> > ----
> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> > - Albert Einstein
> >
>
Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Bart van der Schans <sc...@apache.org>.
Hi Andy,
How would Tashlin be different from rundeck [1] ?
Regards,
Bart
[1] http://rundeck.org/
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
>
> Abstract
> Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch jobs
> via a web user interface.
>
> Brief Description
> Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone application
> for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide a
> simple workflow
> which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided plugins
> for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
> can be used in a
> more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
> (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
>
> The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> executed by a Job
> Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an exception
> is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown to
> notify interested parties)
> Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> recipes can be reused
>
> Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration as
> an example.
> Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
> With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> value 'clean install'
> The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the value
> will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value 'clean
> test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
>
> Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
> and see the results of it.
> I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
>> anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare an
>> abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
>> interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
>> what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
>>
>> @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
>> description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1] make
>> a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see if
>> someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
>>
>> > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1 @Marcel
>> >>
>> >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help
>> or
>> >> not ?
>> >>
>> >
>> > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
>> >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
>> >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
>> >>> about,
>> >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
>> >>> make
>> >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
>> >>>
>> >>> Greetings, Marcel
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >>>> http://dataved.ru/
>> >>>> +7 916 562 8095
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
>> >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hey Alexei,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Yes, it does.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Andy,
>> >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>> >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
>> >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>
>> >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
>> >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
>> >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
>> Integration
>> >>>>>>> though)
>> >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
>> several
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> years.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> S
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
>> >>> --**---------
>> >>>
>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****apache.org<
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> **org<
>> >>>
>> >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org <
>> general-help@incubator.apache.org>
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> >>>>>> ---------
>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
>> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
>> **org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> >>>> ---------
>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org<
>> general-help@incubator.apache.org>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
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>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org<
>> general-help@incubator.apache.org>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org<
>> general-help@incubator.apache.org>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> - Mohammad Nour
>> ----
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>> - Albert Einstein
>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Andy Van Den Heuvel <an...@gmail.com>.
My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
Abstract
Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch jobs
via a web user interface.
Brief Description
Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone application
for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide a
simple workflow
which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided plugins
for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
can be used in a
more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
(E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
The basic idea runs around these concepts:
Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
executed by a Job
Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an exception
is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown to
notify interested parties)
Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
recipes can be reused
Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration as
an example.
Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
value 'clean install'
The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the value
will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value 'clean
test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
and see the results of it.
I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
> anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare an
> abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
>
> @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1] make
> a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see if
> someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
>
> [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
>
> > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> >
> >> +1 @Marcel
> >>
> >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help
> or
> >> not ?
> >>
> >
> > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> >> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> >>> about,
> >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
> >>> make
> >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> >>>
> >>> Greetings, Marcel
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> >>>> --
> >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> >>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hey Alexei,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, it does.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >>>>>
> >>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Andy,
> >>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> >>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> with
> >>>
> >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> >>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> >>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> Integration
> >>>>>>> though)
> >>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for
> several
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> years.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> S
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
> >>> --**---------
> >>>
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****apache.org<
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> **org<
> >>>
> >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org <
> general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> >>>>>> ---------
> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<
> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.
> **org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org<
> general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org<
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org<
> general-help@incubator.apache.org>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>
Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
@Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare an
abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
@Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1] make
a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see if
someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
[1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>
>> +1 @Marcel
>>
>> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help or
>> not ?
>>
>
> He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
>
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
>> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
>>
>> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
>>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
>>> about,
>>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
>>> make
>>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
>>>
>>> Greetings, Marcel
>>>
>>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Alexei,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it does.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>>>
>>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>**wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Andy,
>>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>
>>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
>>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
>>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
>>>>>>> though)
>>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu>.
On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> +1 @Marcel
>
> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help or
> not ?
He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
>
>> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is about,
>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to make
>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
>>
>> Greetings, Marcel
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
>>> --
>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey Alexei,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it does.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andy,
>>>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
>>>>> --
>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
>>>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration
>> with
>>>>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
>>>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
>>>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
>>>>>> though)
>>>>>> The architecture is very different.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several
>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
>>>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
+1 @Marcel
Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help or
not ?
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is about,
> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to make
> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hey Alexei,
> >>
> >> Yes, it does.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Andy,
> >>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> >>> --
> >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> >>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration
> with
> >>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> >>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> >>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
> >>>> though)
> >>>> The architecture is very different.
> >>>>
> >>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several
> >>> years.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> >>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> S
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Can somebody help me?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is about, but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to make it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
Greetings, Marcel
On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Alexei,
>>
>> Yes, it does.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Andy,
>>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
>>> --
>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with
>>>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
>>>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
>>>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
>>>> though)
>>>> The architecture is very different.
>>>>
>>>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several
>>> years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
>>>>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can somebody help me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Alexei,
>
> Yes, it does.
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Andy,
>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with
>> > SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
>> > This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
>> > Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
>> > though)
>> > The architecture is very different.
>> >
>> > The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several
>> years.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
>> >>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> S
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Can somebody help me?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for your consideration.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Andy Van Den Heuvel <an...@gmail.com>.
Hey Alexei,
Yes, it does.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Andy,
> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with
> > SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> > This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> > Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
> > though)
> > The architecture is very different.
> >
> > The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several
> years.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> >>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
> >>
> >>
> >> S
> >>
> >>
> >>> Can somebody help me?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your consideration.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Andy,
It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with
> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
> though)
> The architecture is very different.
>
> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several years.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
>>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
>>
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>>> Can somebody help me?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Andy Van Den Heuvel <an...@gmail.com>.
Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with
SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration
though)
The architecture is very different.
The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several years.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
>>
>
>
> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
>
>
> S
>
>
>> Can somebody help me?
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>
>>
>
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Re: Looking for a Champion
Posted by Simon Lucy <si...@bbc.co.uk>.
Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote:
> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal.
> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application.
Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins?
S
>
> Can somebody help me?
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
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