Moving things along

[Gary <ga...@physics.org>]

Hi everyone,

My apologies that I have been so quiet for a while. I want to get us
moving on in our discussions about how to progress which have stalled
again somewhat. There has been some work going on a little bit behind
the scenes around reinstating the project bloodhound instance at the
latest version. I'll nudge the person who has been doing most of that to
keep us a bit more up to date!

I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether to
move this project to the Attic. As I am still talking about progress
here, clearly my intention is to argue for further time for discussions.
Regardless, more discussion, actual decisions and potentially action
will make it easier to justify more time.

So, given that I will shortly send a further message that focuses on
proposing that we formally move towards replacing Trac with Django. The
proposal may be relatively open in terms of the possible results but we
may end up tying down more of the details in the course of the
discussion. It should not arrive too long after this so please watch out
for it.

Cheers,
    Gary

Re: Moving things along

[Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>]

Ah. Thanks, John. I had missed the request to re-open that ticket. Just did
that. We'll get the VM going.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:16 PM, John Chambers <ch...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> Sorry for the delay in replying. Been a little busy with work :)
> The current status from my part is that I am still waiting on the VM being
> made available for me to setup the live instance of Bloodhound on v0.8. I
> have not had time recently to chance INFRA but the ticket number is
> INFRA-13255.
>
> As for the move away from Trac there has not been much discussion on that
> since the original post.
>
> Cheers
>
> John.
>
> On 21 January 2018 at 01:47, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey all ... what's the current status?
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gary <ga...@physics.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > My apologies that I have been so quiet for a while. I want to get us
> > > moving on in our discussions about how to progress which have stalled
> > > again somewhat. There has been some work going on a little bit behind
> > > the scenes around reinstating the project bloodhound instance at the
> > > latest version. I'll nudge the person who has been doing most of that
> to
> > > keep us a bit more up to date!
> > >
> > > I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
> > > Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether
> to
> > > move this project to the Attic. As I am still talking about progress
> > > here, clearly my intention is to argue for further time for
> discussions.
> > > Regardless, more discussion, actual decisions and potentially action
> > > will make it easier to justify more time.
> > >
> > > So, given that I will shortly send a further message that focuses on
> > > proposing that we formally move towards replacing Trac with Django. The
> > > proposal may be relatively open in terms of the possible results but we
> > > may end up tying down more of the details in the course of the
> > > discussion. It should not arrive too long after this so please watch
> out
> > > for it.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >     Gary
> > >
> >
>

Re: Moving things along

[John Chambers <ch...@apache.org>]

Hi Greg,

Sorry for the delay in replying. Been a little busy with work :)
The current status from my part is that I am still waiting on the VM being
made available for me to setup the live instance of Bloodhound on v0.8. I
have not had time recently to chance INFRA but the ticket number is
INFRA-13255.

As for the move away from Trac there has not been much discussion on that
since the original post.

Cheers

John.

On 21 January 2018 at 01:47, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all ... what's the current status?
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gary <ga...@physics.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > My apologies that I have been so quiet for a while. I want to get us
> > moving on in our discussions about how to progress which have stalled
> > again somewhat. There has been some work going on a little bit behind
> > the scenes around reinstating the project bloodhound instance at the
> > latest version. I'll nudge the person who has been doing most of that to
> > keep us a bit more up to date!
> >
> > I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
> > Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether to
> > move this project to the Attic. As I am still talking about progress
> > here, clearly my intention is to argue for further time for discussions.
> > Regardless, more discussion, actual decisions and potentially action
> > will make it easier to justify more time.
> >
> > So, given that I will shortly send a further message that focuses on
> > proposing that we formally move towards replacing Trac with Django. The
> > proposal may be relatively open in terms of the possible results but we
> > may end up tying down more of the details in the course of the
> > discussion. It should not arrive too long after this so please watch out
> > for it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >     Gary
> >
>

Re: Moving things along

[Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>]

Hey all ... what's the current status?

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gary <ga...@physics.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> My apologies that I have been so quiet for a while. I want to get us
> moving on in our discussions about how to progress which have stalled
> again somewhat. There has been some work going on a little bit behind
> the scenes around reinstating the project bloodhound instance at the
> latest version. I'll nudge the person who has been doing most of that to
> keep us a bit more up to date!
>
> I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
> Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether to
> move this project to the Attic. As I am still talking about progress
> here, clearly my intention is to argue for further time for discussions.
> Regardless, more discussion, actual decisions and potentially action
> will make it easier to justify more time.
>
> So, given that I will shortly send a further message that focuses on
> proposing that we formally move towards replacing Trac with Django. The
> proposal may be relatively open in terms of the possible results but we
> may end up tying down more of the details in the course of the
> discussion. It should not arrive too long after this so please watch out
> for it.
>
> Cheers,
>     Gary
>

Re: Moving things along

[Gary <ga...@physics.org>]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, at 3:05 PM, Gary wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, at 01:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gary <ga...@physics.org> wrote:
> > > > ...I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
> > > > Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether to
> > > > move this project to the Attic....
> > 
> > Note that this report is due now, the Board meeting is on Wednesday.
> > 
> > -Bertrand
> 
> Thanks for keeping an eye on us, Bertrand!
> 
> The report has been discussed on the private list and, once submitted,
> I'll summarise the position that the Bloodhound PMC is taking regarding
> the Attic.
> 
> Cheers,
>     Gary

Actually, I should probably should wait on summarising the position until after the ASF board meeting. It is not too far away now so I'm sure you can wait a bit longer.

Cheers,
    Gary

Re: Moving things along

[Gary <ga...@physics.org>]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, at 01:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gary <ga...@physics.org> wrote:
> > > ...I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
> > > Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether to
> > > move this project to the Attic....
> 
> Note that this report is due now, the Board meeting is on Wednesday.
> 
> -Bertrand

Thanks for keeping an eye on us, Bertrand!

The report has been discussed on the private list and, once submitted,
I'll summarise the position that the Bloodhound PMC is taking regarding
the Attic.

Cheers,
    Gary

Re: Moving things along

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

Hi,

> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gary <ga...@physics.org> wrote:
> > ...I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
> > Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether to
> > move this project to the Attic....

Note that this report is due now, the Board meeting is on Wednesday.

-Bertrand

Re: Moving things along

[John Chambers <ch...@apache.org>]

Thats good to know, thanks Greg.

Cheers,
John

On 13 December 2017 at 14:13, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> FWIW, the Board will not take any action against the wishes of an active
> PMC. Show some activity, and you're good to go. So, don't worry about it.
> Just keep pushing forward.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gary <ga...@physics.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > My apologies that I have been so quiet for a while. I want to get us
> > moving on in our discussions about how to progress which have stalled
> > again somewhat. There has been some work going on a little bit behind
> > the scenes around reinstating the project bloodhound instance at the
> > latest version. I'll nudge the person who has been doing most of that to
> > keep us a bit more up to date!
> >
> > I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
> > Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether to
> > move this project to the Attic. As I am still talking about progress
> > here, clearly my intention is to argue for further time for discussions.
> > Regardless, more discussion, actual decisions and potentially action
> > will make it easier to justify more time.
> >
> > So, given that I will shortly send a further message that focuses on
> > proposing that we formally move towards replacing Trac with Django. The
> > proposal may be relatively open in terms of the possible results but we
> > may end up tying down more of the details in the course of the
> > discussion. It should not arrive too long after this so please watch out
> > for it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >     Gary
> >
>

Re: Moving things along

[Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>]

FWIW, the Board will not take any action against the wishes of an active
PMC. Show some activity, and you're good to go. So, don't worry about it.
Just keep pushing forward.

Cheers,
-g


On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gary <ga...@physics.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> My apologies that I have been so quiet for a while. I want to get us
> moving on in our discussions about how to progress which have stalled
> again somewhat. There has been some work going on a little bit behind
> the scenes around reinstating the project bloodhound instance at the
> latest version. I'll nudge the person who has been doing most of that to
> keep us a bit more up to date!
>
> I feel that I should mention that I do have to write a report for the
> Apache board in which I will have to address decisions around whether to
> move this project to the Attic. As I am still talking about progress
> here, clearly my intention is to argue for further time for discussions.
> Regardless, more discussion, actual decisions and potentially action
> will make it easier to justify more time.
>
> So, given that I will shortly send a further message that focuses on
> proposing that we formally move towards replacing Trac with Django. The
> proposal may be relatively open in terms of the possible results but we
> may end up tying down more of the details in the course of the
> discussion. It should not arrive too long after this so please watch out
> for it.
>
> Cheers,
>     Gary
>