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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com> on 2021/02/25 12:06:52 UTC
[DISCUSS] List of "supported" hypervisors and network devices
Hi folks,
in our official documentation, we state that we support MANY things that, I
assume, have not been tested by almost anyone, not being used widely by
CloudStack users.
My questions: should we make a big note (in the documentation) that "the
following ... might work, but are not actively tested" or something along
these lines
Subjects to discuss bellow:
###################################
-
LXC Host Containers on RHEL 7
-
Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Hyper-V Role enabled)
-
Hyper-V 2012 R2
-
Oracle VM 3.0+
-
Bare metal hosts are supported, which have no hypervisor. These hosts
can run the following operating systems:
- Fedora 17
- Ubuntu 12.04
Supported External Devices
- Netscaler VPX and MPX versions 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
- Netscaler SDX version 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
- SRX (Model srx100b) versions 10.3 to 10.4 R7.5
- F5 11.X
- Force 10 Switch version S4810 for Baremetal Advanced Networks
#########################################
My point is that we discontinued supporting i.e. VMware 6.0 (due to VMware
stopped supporting it a while ago; valid reason) while in reality it works
very well (I know 4.13 works in production environments with VMware 6.0),
but we keep mentioning we support things that, probably, nobody tested, nor
is using at all - the ones from above.
Opinions, suggestion?
--
Andrija Panić
Re: [DISCUSS] List of "supported" hypervisors and network devices
Posted by Makrand <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
Even I am curious about LXC support on hosts in ACS. TBH - LXD (it's kind
of the manager that uses liblxc to spin up MCs) is the main thing with
canonical machine containers (MCs) nowadays. Doubt anyone is using LXC
directly anymore. (e.g. I have a 3 node K8 cluster running on LXD backed
MCs for testing etc).
Has anyone here used LXC (on ACS hosts) to actually spin up MCs? I mean
like in real production?
*--*
*Makrand*
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 5:37 PM Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> in our official documentation, we state that we support MANY things that, I
> assume, have not been tested by almost anyone, not being used widely by
> CloudStack users.
>
> My questions: should we make a big note (in the documentation) that "the
> following ... might work, but are not actively tested" or something along
> these lines
>
> Subjects to discuss bellow:
> ###################################
>
> -
>
> LXC Host Containers on RHEL 7
> -
>
> Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Hyper-V Role enabled)
> -
>
> Hyper-V 2012 R2
> -
>
> Oracle VM 3.0+
> -
>
> Bare metal hosts are supported, which have no hypervisor. These hosts
> can run the following operating systems:
> - Fedora 17
> - Ubuntu 12.04
>
> Supported External Devices
>
> - Netscaler VPX and MPX versions 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> - Netscaler SDX version 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> - SRX (Model srx100b) versions 10.3 to 10.4 R7.5
> - F5 11.X
> - Force 10 Switch version S4810 for Baremetal Advanced Networks
>
> #########################################
>
> My point is that we discontinued supporting i.e. VMware 6.0 (due to VMware
> stopped supporting it a while ago; valid reason) while in reality it works
> very well (I know 4.13 works in production environments with VMware 6.0),
> but we keep mentioning we support things that, probably, nobody tested, nor
> is using at all - the ones from above.
>
> Opinions, suggestion?
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić
>
Re: [DISCUSS] List of "supported" hypervisors and network devices
Posted by Wei ZHOU <us...@gmail.com>.
Totally agree.
-Wei
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 10:19, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>
> On 25/02/2021 13:06, Andrija Panic wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > in our official documentation, we state that we support MANY things
> that, I
> > assume, have not been tested by almost anyone, not being used widely by
> > CloudStack users.
> >
> > My questions: should we make a big note (in the documentation) that "the
> > following ... might work, but are not actively tested" or something along
> > these lines
> >
>
> Yes, I agree. Many of these things below are uncertain if they actually
> work properly.
>
> > Subjects to discuss bellow:
> > ###################################
> >
> > -
> >
> > LXC Host Containers on RHEL 7
>
> I was already thinking of stripping this out of the code as I don't
> think anyone is using it.
>
> > -
> >
> > Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Hyper-V Role enabled)
> > -
> >
> > Hyper-V 2012 R2
> > -
> >
> > Oracle VM 3.0+
> > -
> >
> > Bare metal hosts are supported, which have no hypervisor. These hosts
> > can run the following operating systems:
> > - Fedora 17
> > - Ubuntu 12.04
> >
> > Supported External Devices
> >
> > - Netscaler VPX and MPX versions 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> > - Netscaler SDX version 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> > - SRX (Model srx100b) versions 10.3 to 10.4 R7.5
> > - F5 11.X
> > - Force 10 Switch version S4810 for Baremetal Advanced Networks
> >
> > #########################################
> >
> > My point is that we discontinued supporting i.e. VMware 6.0 (due to
> VMware
> > stopped supporting it a while ago; valid reason) while in reality it
> works
> > very well (I know 4.13 works in production environments with VMware 6.0),
> > but we keep mentioning we support things that, probably, nobody tested,
> nor
> > is using at all - the ones from above.
> >
> > Opinions, suggestion?
> >
>
> Like I said, this list can probably shrink as many things are untested
> and haven't been used for a while.
>
> Wido
>
Re: [DISCUSS] List of "supported" hypervisors and network devices
Posted by Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>.
On 25/02/2021 13:06, Andrija Panic wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> in our official documentation, we state that we support MANY things that, I
> assume, have not been tested by almost anyone, not being used widely by
> CloudStack users.
>
> My questions: should we make a big note (in the documentation) that "the
> following ... might work, but are not actively tested" or something along
> these lines
>
Yes, I agree. Many of these things below are uncertain if they actually
work properly.
> Subjects to discuss bellow:
> ###################################
>
> -
>
> LXC Host Containers on RHEL 7
I was already thinking of stripping this out of the code as I don't
think anyone is using it.
> -
>
> Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Hyper-V Role enabled)
> -
>
> Hyper-V 2012 R2
> -
>
> Oracle VM 3.0+
> -
>
> Bare metal hosts are supported, which have no hypervisor. These hosts
> can run the following operating systems:
> - Fedora 17
> - Ubuntu 12.04
>
> Supported External Devices
>
> - Netscaler VPX and MPX versions 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> - Netscaler SDX version 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> - SRX (Model srx100b) versions 10.3 to 10.4 R7.5
> - F5 11.X
> - Force 10 Switch version S4810 for Baremetal Advanced Networks
>
> #########################################
>
> My point is that we discontinued supporting i.e. VMware 6.0 (due to VMware
> stopped supporting it a while ago; valid reason) while in reality it works
> very well (I know 4.13 works in production environments with VMware 6.0),
> but we keep mentioning we support things that, probably, nobody tested, nor
> is using at all - the ones from above.
>
> Opinions, suggestion?
>
Like I said, this list can probably shrink as many things are untested
and haven't been used for a while.
Wido
Re: [DISCUSS] List of "supported" hypervisors and network devices
Posted by Makrand <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
Even I am curious about LXC support on hosts in ACS. TBH - LXD (it's kind
of the manager that uses liblxc to spin up MCs) is the main thing with
canonical machine containers (MCs) nowadays. Doubt anyone is using LXC
directly anymore. (e.g. I have a 3 node K8 cluster running on LXD backed
MCs for testing etc).
Has anyone here used LXC (on ACS hosts) to actually spin up MCs? I mean
like in real production?
*--*
*Makrand*
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 5:37 PM Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> in our official documentation, we state that we support MANY things that, I
> assume, have not been tested by almost anyone, not being used widely by
> CloudStack users.
>
> My questions: should we make a big note (in the documentation) that "the
> following ... might work, but are not actively tested" or something along
> these lines
>
> Subjects to discuss bellow:
> ###################################
>
> -
>
> LXC Host Containers on RHEL 7
> -
>
> Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Hyper-V Role enabled)
> -
>
> Hyper-V 2012 R2
> -
>
> Oracle VM 3.0+
> -
>
> Bare metal hosts are supported, which have no hypervisor. These hosts
> can run the following operating systems:
> - Fedora 17
> - Ubuntu 12.04
>
> Supported External Devices
>
> - Netscaler VPX and MPX versions 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> - Netscaler SDX version 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> - SRX (Model srx100b) versions 10.3 to 10.4 R7.5
> - F5 11.X
> - Force 10 Switch version S4810 for Baremetal Advanced Networks
>
> #########################################
>
> My point is that we discontinued supporting i.e. VMware 6.0 (due to VMware
> stopped supporting it a while ago; valid reason) while in reality it works
> very well (I know 4.13 works in production environments with VMware 6.0),
> but we keep mentioning we support things that, probably, nobody tested, nor
> is using at all - the ones from above.
>
> Opinions, suggestion?
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić
>
Re: [DISCUSS] List of "supported" hypervisors and network devices
Posted by Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>.
On 25/02/2021 13:06, Andrija Panic wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> in our official documentation, we state that we support MANY things that, I
> assume, have not been tested by almost anyone, not being used widely by
> CloudStack users.
>
> My questions: should we make a big note (in the documentation) that "the
> following ... might work, but are not actively tested" or something along
> these lines
>
Yes, I agree. Many of these things below are uncertain if they actually
work properly.
> Subjects to discuss bellow:
> ###################################
>
> -
>
> LXC Host Containers on RHEL 7
I was already thinking of stripping this out of the code as I don't
think anyone is using it.
> -
>
> Windows Server 2012 R2 (with Hyper-V Role enabled)
> -
>
> Hyper-V 2012 R2
> -
>
> Oracle VM 3.0+
> -
>
> Bare metal hosts are supported, which have no hypervisor. These hosts
> can run the following operating systems:
> - Fedora 17
> - Ubuntu 12.04
>
> Supported External Devices
>
> - Netscaler VPX and MPX versions 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> - Netscaler SDX version 9.3, 10.1e and 10.5
> - SRX (Model srx100b) versions 10.3 to 10.4 R7.5
> - F5 11.X
> - Force 10 Switch version S4810 for Baremetal Advanced Networks
>
> #########################################
>
> My point is that we discontinued supporting i.e. VMware 6.0 (due to VMware
> stopped supporting it a while ago; valid reason) while in reality it works
> very well (I know 4.13 works in production environments with VMware 6.0),
> but we keep mentioning we support things that, probably, nobody tested, nor
> is using at all - the ones from above.
>
> Opinions, suggestion?
>
Like I said, this list can probably shrink as many things are untested
and haven't been used for a while.
Wido