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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> on 2012/05/05 13:38:53 UTC

When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined into one screen.

Hi,

 

When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two
screens both asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined
into one screen, please.

 

Users find it frustrating and very confusing when they first join in a
OpenMeetings Meeting Room because they are presented with two similar
but different screens (I know I have been trying to introduce several
people to OpenMeetings).  I do like the option of being able to "not
show these again".

 

What I would suggest is that only the device selection screen appears.

 

For Audio a "Microphone Test" toggle button be there with a microphone
level meter for the test. 

 

For video, 1) since the video camera drop down list detects if there is
a video camera, then why not only give the users the "video options" to
select from if they have a video camera, 

2) if they select a video camera, load up a second floating "video"
window to the side which shows the video at the resolution that they
select, if they select a different resolution then change the video
window to that resolution, this way they can see the effect/size of
their video resolution selection.  After all in the current system, once
they have chosen their devices they are given a video window anyway, why
not a bit earlier so that can interactively select an appropriate
resolution. Currently I see people either select a too small resolution
or a too large resolution as they have no idea how it will look.

 

Please let me know what you think about this suggestion and if it is
feasible.

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham


RE: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined into one screen.

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,

 

Apologies for the confusion.  Is it possible to have the two dialog
boxes you mentioned, the "1) There is the Audio / Video test" and the
"choose your audio / video device settings" dialog box changed to be one
dialog box?

 

You are most likely so familiar with OpenMeetings you do not see this as
a problem, but the number of first time users who come into OpenMeetings
who get confused is amazing.   

 

If people don't like my suggestion, then don't bother about it.  But
then could I ask that the "Start recording" button text be changed to
something like "Start test recording" or "Start Recording Test", as I
often get asked what does this mean. And I know the screen is well
documented, but the new users still get confused.

 

I think the text is  "1316, recording flag, Start recording", but I
think this text is also used for other "Start recording" buttons, so if
I change this text to "Start recording test", then other buttons in
OpenMeetings will be labelled wrong ?

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 10:02 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented
with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be
combined into one screen.

 

Hallo Georg,

I don't understand this request.
There are no identical boxes.
1) There is the Audio / Video test where you can record 5 seconds of
video and playback (this pops up even before entering the room)
2) There are the device settings to choose your audio / video device
settings

=> Both boxes have on the bottom a checkbox already "do not ask again". 
=> In the roomtype restricted the (2) popup will not popup
=> In the room configuration you can disable the popup (1)

I don't think that there is something to do here.
As for the resolution: You always can re-start your audio/video by
clicking on the re-sync icon and choose different settings and restart
the publishing.

Sebastian

2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>

Hi,

 

When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two
screens both asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined
into one screen, please.

 

Users find it frustrating and very confusing when they first join in a
OpenMeetings Meeting Room because they are presented with two similar
but different screens (I know I have been trying to introduce several
people to OpenMeetings).  I do like the option of being able to "not
show these again".

 

What I would suggest is that only the device selection screen appears.

 

For Audio a "Microphone Test" toggle button be there with a microphone
level meter for the test. 

 

For video, 1) since the video camera drop down list detects if there is
a video camera, then why not only give the users the "video options" to
select from if they have a video camera, 

2) if they select a video camera, load up a second floating "video"
window to the side which shows the video at the resolution that they
select, if they select a different resolution then change the video
window to that resolution, this way they can see the effect/size of
their video resolution selection.  After all in the current system, once
they have chosen their devices they are given a video window anyway, why
not a bit earlier so that can interactively select an appropriate
resolution. Currently I see people either select a too small resolution
or a too large resolution as they have no idea how it will look.

 

Please let me know what you think about this suggestion and if it is
feasible.

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham




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RE: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Maxim,

 

Thanks, and is seems I should give Ubuntu a try  (I have been a Debian user until now).

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 1:59 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

 

Under Ubuntu 12.04

I use:

1) ant from apt-get (1.8.2 works as expected)

2) Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin

3) command line svn (apt-get subversion)

4) oracle jdk 1.6 (downloaded as .bin)

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:

Thibault,

Sadly I did not get far following the instructions at

http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/BuildInstructions.html

Step1 - Get required Software

   To develop OpenMeetings you need at least:

       Eclipse in a up to date copy and Sun JDK6  (used Deiban packages for Sun JDK and Eclipse)
       Apache ANT (minimum) 1.8.3  (installed)
       Subclipse 1.8 (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subclipse.tigris.org/  (Subclipse would not install into Eclipse due to issues with dependices, which I was not able to successful install either)
       SVN Command line client (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
       Spring IDE for Eclipse (installable via Help > Eclipse Marketplace) (no such menu option existed, or could I find a market place)
       MySQL (or Postgres, or other Databases supported by Hibernate) are optionally but handy to have them

Adding a new software site
There are several different ways to add a software site to the list of sites that are used when browsing available software and checking for updates. You must know the Web Site location (URL) of the site that you want to add. To add the site, use one of the following procedures:
*       Add a new site using the  Install/Update > Available Software Sites preference page.
1.      Click the Add... button.
2.      Type a name into the Name text box.
3.      If the software site is located on the web, type the Web Site location (URL) of the site into the Location text box. You may also paste or drag and drop a URL from a web browser into this text box.
4.      If the software site is in your local file system (including a CD), click Local... to specify the directory location of the site.
5.      If the software site is in your local file system but is packaged as a jar or zip file, click Archive... to specify the name of the file.
*       Drag and drop the site URL from a browser into one of the following locations:
1.      The Work With combo box or the software list on the first page of the Install New Software wizard.
2.      The Available Software Sites preference page.
3.      The Location text field in the Add Site... dialog.

https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/gef-nightly-tycho/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/update-site/

http://download.eclipse.org/mylyn/releases/latest

http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x

Classic way, Eclipse IDE, click "Help" -> "Install New Software...". Type "http://springide.org/updatesite" to access the Spring IDE update site.

Thanks,

George Kirkham




-----Original Message-----
From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr]

Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org

Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt

Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get the svn features.



----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
    Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
     De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
 Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
      À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org


> I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
>
>
>
> Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
> OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
> Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
> will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
> OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
>
>
>
> You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
> can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are
> presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can
> these be combined into one screen.
>
>
>
> Hi Georg,
>
> changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
> service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
> some caching.
>
> Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
> way to contribute would be:
> Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> WebContent/languages/english.xml
> src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238
> => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff
> using your favorite SVN tool
>
> Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
>
> I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
> possible to be accepted.
> You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
> manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way
> that works for us both.
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for
> the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?
>
>
>
> 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field
> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?
> (Maybe it needs a restart?)
>
> 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
> the Whiteboard".
>
> 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> like there is in the "User" manager.
>
> 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is
> relevant to the particular meeting?
>
> 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
> needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
> to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC
> will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No
> audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"
>
> 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on
> whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You
> need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to
> upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other
> to check my suggestion.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
> http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>


----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----







 

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I mean this setting:
Under Window->Preference->Team->SVN there is a “SVN interface”, “Client:”
which I have now set to “SVNKit (Pure Java) SVNKit v1.7.0 SNAPSHOT”

to resolve
 I get “Error (100 of 125 items), mostly because “Project ‘Openmeetings’ is
missing required library: ‘build/lib/…”  where … is a listing of about 100
*.jar files.
you need to run
ant -Ddb=mysql prepare-eclipse
(if your DB==mysql)


On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:33 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:

> Hi Max,****
>
> ** **
>
> I was not able to install “Subversion Revision Graph”, “Subclipse
> Integration for Mylyn 3.x (Optional)”, but I did install the other items.*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> You said “set "java only" in Preferences->Team>SVN”, but I cannot find
> such a selection?****
>
> ** **
>
> Under Window->Preference->Team  there is  a “Perspective:” set to “Team
> Synchronizing” while there is also a “Java” option, but I don’t think this
> is what you mean.****
>
> ** **
>
> Under Window->Preference->Team->SVN there is a “SVN interface”, “Client:”
> which I have now set to “SVNKit (Pure Java) SVNKit v1.7.0 SNAPSHOT”, it was
> JavaLH (JNI) Not Available”.****
>
> ** **
>
> I then ran “File”, “Import”, selected “SVN”, “Checkout Projects from SVN”,
> Next****
>
> Entered
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/singlewebapp/
> ****
>
> Followed the prompts and selected “Finish”.****
>
> ** **
>
> But now I get “Error (100 of 125 items), mostly because “Project
> ‘Openmeetings’ is missing required library: ‘build/lib/…”  where … is a
> listing of about 100 *.jar files.  However I am looking around in the
> Openmeetings code and searching for objects, methods, etc.****
>
> ** **
>
> What I current want to achieve is to learn what code is required to let
> the Whiteboard’s zoom feature be available to meeting participants who have
> not been given any privileges (e.g. “Draw on Whiteboard privileges” ), and
> while I don’t quite know what I am doing in Eclipse, I think that for a
> start I want to find the code which is in “WhiteboardObject.java” line 83
> “public void setZoom(Integer zoom) {“  ****
>
> ** **
>
> WhiteboardManagement.java, line 289 “whiteBoardObject.setZoom((Integer)
> actionObject.get(2));****
>
> ** **
>
> UpdateWhiteboardObject****
>
> ** **
>
> Err, well I think I am somewhat off track.  Eclipse is great, but I have a
> lot of learning in Eclipse, Java and Openmeetings before I can be of much
> use with the code.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 2:41 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse****
>
> ** **
>
> Hello George,****
>
> ** **
>
> here is the link to the "4.2 beta" (I use it because it look better :) )**
> **
>
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-ee-developers/junom6
>  ****
>
> ** **
>
> direct link to linux x64
> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/juno/M6/eclipse-jee-juno-M6-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> I do extract it to the opt:****
>
> cd /opt****
>
> sudo tar -xzf  eclipse-jee-juno-M6-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
>
> run eclipse****
>
> go to Help->Install new Software****
>
> enter  http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x  and install everything :)
> ****
>
> then set "java only" in Preferences->Team>SVN
>
> ****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:31 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> wrote:****
>
> Max,****
>
>  ****
>
> I should have asked, how to you install “Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin” ?*
> ***
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
>  ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
>  ****
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 1:59 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse****
>
>  ****
>
> Under Ubuntu 12.04****
>
> I use:****
>
> 1) ant from apt-get (1.8.2 works as expected)****
>
> 2) Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin****
>
> 3) command line svn (apt-get subversion)****
>
> 4) oracle jdk 1.6 (downloaded as .bin)****
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> wrote:****
>
> Thibault,
>
> Sadly I did not get far following the instructions at
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/BuildInstructions.html
>
> Step1 - Get required Software
>
>    To develop OpenMeetings you need at least:
>
>        Eclipse in a up to date copy and Sun JDK6  (used Deiban packages
> for Sun JDK and Eclipse)
>        Apache ANT (minimum) 1.8.3  (installed)
>        Subclipse 1.8 (Subversion 1.7 required!)
> http://subclipse.tigris.org/  (Subclipse would not install into Eclipse
> due to issues with dependices, which I was not able to successful install
> either)
>        SVN Command line client (Subversion 1.7 required!)
> http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
>        Spring IDE for Eclipse (installable via Help > Eclipse Marketplace)
> (no such menu option existed, or could I find a market place)
>        MySQL (or Postgres, or other Databases supported by Hibernate) are
> optionally but handy to have them
>
> Adding a new software site
> There are several different ways to add a software site to the list of
> sites that are used when browsing available software and checking for
> updates. You must know the Web Site location (URL) of the site that you
> want to add. To add the site, use one of the following procedures:
> *       Add a new site using the  Install/Update > Available Software
> Sites preference page.
> 1.      Click the Add... button.
> 2.      Type a name into the Name text box.
> 3.      If the software site is located on the web, type the Web Site
> location (URL) of the site into the Location text box. You may also paste
> or drag and drop a URL from a web browser into this text box.
> 4.      If the software site is in your local file system (including a
> CD), click Local... to specify the directory location of the site.
> 5.      If the software site is in your local file system but is packaged
> as a jar or zip file, click Archive... to specify the name of the file.
> *       Drag and drop the site URL from a browser into one of the
> following locations:
> 1.      The Work With combo box or the software list on the first page of
> the Install New Software wizard.
> 2.      The Available Software Sites preference page.
> 3.      The Location text field in the Add Site... dialog.
>
>
> https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/gef-nightly-tycho/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/update-site/
>
> http://download.eclipse.org/mylyn/releases/latest
>
> http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x
>
> Classic way, Eclipse IDE, click "Help" -> "Install New Software...". Type "
> http://springide.org/updatesite" to access the Spring IDE update site.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham****
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr]****
>
> Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org****
>
> Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
>
> It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
> However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the
> one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from
> sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt
>
> Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get
> the svn features.
>
>
>
> ----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
>     Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
>      De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à :
> openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>  Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
>       À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> > I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
> >
> >
> >
> > Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
> > OpenMeetings.
> >
> >
> >
> > Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
> > will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
> > OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
> >
> >
> >
> > You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
> > can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > George Kirkham
> >
> >
> >
> > IT Manager
> >
> > Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >
> > NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >
> > T: (02) 6120 1600
> >
> > F: (02) 6273 7181
> >
> > E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
> >
> > W: www.co2crc.com.au
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> > To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are
> > presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can
> > these be combined into one screen.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Georg,
> >
> > changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
> > service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
> > some caching.
> >
> > Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
> > way to contribute would be:
> > Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> > WebContent/languages/english.xml
> > src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238
> > => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff
> > using your favorite SVN tool
> >
> > Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
> >
> > I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
> > possible to be accepted.
> > You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
> > manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> > 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way
> > that works for us both.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Sebastian
> >
> > 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> >
> > Sebastian,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for
> > the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request
> better?
> >
> >
> >
> > 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> > for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field
> > in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?
> > (Maybe it needs a restart?)
> >
> > 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> > explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
> > the Whiteboard".
> >
> > 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> > like there is in the "User" manager.
> >
> > 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> > change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> > meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is
> > relevant to the particular meeting?
> >
> > 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> > flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
> > needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
> > to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
> >
> > 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> > "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC
> > will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No
> > audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be
> shown"
> >
> > 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> > explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on
> > whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You
> > need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to
> > upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other
> > to check my suggestion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > George Kirkham
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> > http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
> > http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
>
>
> ----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----****
>
>
>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax****
>



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RE: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi Max,

 

I was not able to install “Subversion Revision Graph”, “Subclipse Integration for Mylyn 3.x (Optional)”, but I did install the other items.

 

You said “set "java only" in Preferences->Team>SVN”, but I cannot find such a selection?

 

Under Window->Preference->Team  there is  a “Perspective:” set to “Team Synchronizing” while there is also a “Java” option, but I don’t think this is what you mean.

 

Under Window->Preference->Team->SVN there is a “SVN interface”, “Client:” which I have now set to “SVNKit (Pure Java) SVNKit v1.7.0 SNAPSHOT”, it was JavaLH (JNI) Not Available”.

 

I then ran “File”, “Import”, selected “SVN”, “Checkout Projects from SVN”, Next

Entered https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/singlewebapp/

Followed the prompts and selected “Finish”.

 

But now I get “Error (100 of 125 items), mostly because “Project ‘Openmeetings’ is missing required library: ‘build/lib/…”  where … is a listing of about 100 *.jar files.  However I am looking around in the Openmeetings code and searching for objects, methods, etc.

 

What I current want to achieve is to learn what code is required to let the Whiteboard’s zoom feature be available to meeting participants who have not been given any privileges (e.g. “Draw on Whiteboard privileges” ), and while I don’t quite know what I am doing in Eclipse, I think that for a start I want to find the code which is in “WhiteboardObject.java” line 83 “public void setZoom(Integer zoom) {“  

 

WhiteboardManagement.java, line 289 “whiteBoardObject.setZoom((Integer) actionObject.get(2));

 

UpdateWhiteboardObject

 

Err, well I think I am somewhat off track.  Eclipse is great, but I have a lot of learning in Eclipse, Java and Openmeetings before I can be of much use with the code.

 

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

 

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 2:41 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

 

Hello George,

 

here is the link to the "4.2 beta" (I use it because it look better :) )

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-ee-developers/junom6 

 

direct link to linux x64 http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/juno/M6/eclipse-jee-juno-M6-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz

 

I do extract it to the opt:

cd /opt

sudo tar -xzf  eclipse-jee-juno-M6-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz 

run eclipse

go to Help->Install new Software

enter  http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x <http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x>   and install everything :)

then set "java only" in Preferences->Team>SVN



On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:31 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:

Max,

 

I should have asked, how to you install “Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin” ?

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 1:59 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

 

Under Ubuntu 12.04

I use:

1) ant from apt-get (1.8.2 works as expected)

2) Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin

3) command line svn (apt-get subversion)

4) oracle jdk 1.6 (downloaded as .bin)

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:

Thibault,

Sadly I did not get far following the instructions at

http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/BuildInstructions.html

Step1 - Get required Software

   To develop OpenMeetings you need at least:

       Eclipse in a up to date copy and Sun JDK6  (used Deiban packages for Sun JDK and Eclipse)
       Apache ANT (minimum) 1.8.3  (installed)
       Subclipse 1.8 (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subclipse.tigris.org/  (Subclipse would not install into Eclipse due to issues with dependices, which I was not able to successful install either)
       SVN Command line client (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
       Spring IDE for Eclipse (installable via Help > Eclipse Marketplace) (no such menu option existed, or could I find a market place)
       MySQL (or Postgres, or other Databases supported by Hibernate) are optionally but handy to have them

Adding a new software site
There are several different ways to add a software site to the list of sites that are used when browsing available software and checking for updates. You must know the Web Site location (URL) of the site that you want to add. To add the site, use one of the following procedures:
*       Add a new site using the  Install/Update > Available Software Sites preference page.
1.      Click the Add... button.
2.      Type a name into the Name text box.
3.      If the software site is located on the web, type the Web Site location (URL) of the site into the Location text box. You may also paste or drag and drop a URL from a web browser into this text box.
4.      If the software site is in your local file system (including a CD), click Local... to specify the directory location of the site.
5.      If the software site is in your local file system but is packaged as a jar or zip file, click Archive... to specify the name of the file.
*       Drag and drop the site URL from a browser into one of the following locations:
1.      The Work With combo box or the software list on the first page of the Install New Software wizard.
2.      The Available Software Sites preference page.
3.      The Location text field in the Add Site... dialog.

https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/gef-nightly-tycho/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/update-site/

http://download.eclipse.org/mylyn/releases/latest

http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x

Classic way, Eclipse IDE, click "Help" -> "Install New Software...". Type "http://springide.org/updatesite" to access the Spring IDE update site.

Thanks,

George Kirkham




-----Original Message-----
From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr]

Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org

Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt

Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get the svn features.



----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
    Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
     De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
 Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
      À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org


> I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
>
>
>
> Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
> OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
> Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
> will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
> OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
>
>
>
> You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
> can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are
> presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can
> these be combined into one screen.
>
>
>
> Hi Georg,
>
> changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
> service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
> some caching.
>
> Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
> way to contribute would be:
> Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> WebContent/languages/english.xml
> src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238
> => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff
> using your favorite SVN tool
>
> Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
>
> I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
> possible to be accepted.
> You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
> manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way
> that works for us both.
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for
> the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?
>
>
>
> 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field
> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?
> (Maybe it needs a restart?)
>
> 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
> the Whiteboard".
>
> 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> like there is in the "User" manager.
>
> 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is
> relevant to the particular meeting?
>
> 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
> needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
> to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC
> will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No
> audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"
>
> 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on
> whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You
> need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to
> upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other
> to check my suggestion.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
> http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>


----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----





 

-- 
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Maxim aka solomax





 

-- 
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Maxim aka solomax


RE: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Thanks, once again.

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 2:41 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

 

Hello George,

 

here is the link to the "4.2 beta" (I use it because it look better :) )

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-ee-developers/junom6 

 

direct link to linux x64 http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/juno/M6/eclipse-jee-juno-M6-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz

 

I do extract it to the opt:

cd /opt

sudo tar -xzf  eclipse-jee-juno-M6-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz 

run eclipse

go to Help->Install new Software

enter  http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x <http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x>   and install everything :)

then set "java only" in Preferences->Team>SVN



On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:31 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:

Max,

 

I should have asked, how to you install “Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin” ?

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 1:59 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

 

Under Ubuntu 12.04

I use:

1) ant from apt-get (1.8.2 works as expected)

2) Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin

3) command line svn (apt-get subversion)

4) oracle jdk 1.6 (downloaded as .bin)

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:

Thibault,

Sadly I did not get far following the instructions at

http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/BuildInstructions.html

Step1 - Get required Software

   To develop OpenMeetings you need at least:

       Eclipse in a up to date copy and Sun JDK6  (used Deiban packages for Sun JDK and Eclipse)
       Apache ANT (minimum) 1.8.3  (installed)
       Subclipse 1.8 (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subclipse.tigris.org/  (Subclipse would not install into Eclipse due to issues with dependices, which I was not able to successful install either)
       SVN Command line client (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
       Spring IDE for Eclipse (installable via Help > Eclipse Marketplace) (no such menu option existed, or could I find a market place)
       MySQL (or Postgres, or other Databases supported by Hibernate) are optionally but handy to have them

Adding a new software site
There are several different ways to add a software site to the list of sites that are used when browsing available software and checking for updates. You must know the Web Site location (URL) of the site that you want to add. To add the site, use one of the following procedures:
*       Add a new site using the  Install/Update > Available Software Sites preference page.
1.      Click the Add... button.
2.      Type a name into the Name text box.
3.      If the software site is located on the web, type the Web Site location (URL) of the site into the Location text box. You may also paste or drag and drop a URL from a web browser into this text box.
4.      If the software site is in your local file system (including a CD), click Local... to specify the directory location of the site.
5.      If the software site is in your local file system but is packaged as a jar or zip file, click Archive... to specify the name of the file.
*       Drag and drop the site URL from a browser into one of the following locations:
1.      The Work With combo box or the software list on the first page of the Install New Software wizard.
2.      The Available Software Sites preference page.
3.      The Location text field in the Add Site... dialog.

https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/gef-nightly-tycho/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/update-site/

http://download.eclipse.org/mylyn/releases/latest

http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x

Classic way, Eclipse IDE, click "Help" -> "Install New Software...". Type "http://springide.org/updatesite" to access the Spring IDE update site.

Thanks,

George Kirkham




-----Original Message-----
From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr]

Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org

Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt

Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get the svn features.



----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
    Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
     De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
 Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
      À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org


> I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
>
>
>
> Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
> OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
> Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
> will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
> OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
>
>
>
> You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
> can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are
> presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can
> these be combined into one screen.
>
>
>
> Hi Georg,
>
> changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
> service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
> some caching.
>
> Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
> way to contribute would be:
> Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> WebContent/languages/english.xml
> src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238
> => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff
> using your favorite SVN tool
>
> Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
>
> I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
> possible to be accepted.
> You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
> manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way
> that works for us both.
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for
> the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?
>
>
>
> 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field
> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?
> (Maybe it needs a restart?)
>
> 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
> the Whiteboard".
>
> 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> like there is in the "User" manager.
>
> 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is
> relevant to the particular meeting?
>
> 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
> needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
> to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC
> will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No
> audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"
>
> 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on
> whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You
> need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to
> upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other
> to check my suggestion.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
> http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>


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Maxim aka solomax





 

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Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello George,

here is the link to the "4.2 beta" (I use it because it look better :) )
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-ee-developers/junom6


direct link to linux x64
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/juno/M6/eclipse-jee-juno-M6-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz

I do extract it to the opt:
cd /opt
sudo tar -xzf  eclipse-jee-juno-M6-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz

run eclipse
go to Help->Install new Software
enter  http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x  and install everything :)
then set "java only" in Preferences->Team>SVN


On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:31 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:

> Max,****
>
> ** **
>
> I should have asked, how to you install “Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin” ?*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 1:59 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse****
>
> ** **
>
> Under Ubuntu 12.04****
>
> I use:****
>
> 1) ant from apt-get (1.8.2 works as expected)****
>
> 2) Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin****
>
> 3) command line svn (apt-get subversion)****
>
> 4) oracle jdk 1.6 (downloaded as .bin)****
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> wrote:****
>
> Thibault,
>
> Sadly I did not get far following the instructions at
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/BuildInstructions.html
>
> Step1 - Get required Software
>
>    To develop OpenMeetings you need at least:
>
>        Eclipse in a up to date copy and Sun JDK6  (used Deiban packages
> for Sun JDK and Eclipse)
>        Apache ANT (minimum) 1.8.3  (installed)
>        Subclipse 1.8 (Subversion 1.7 required!)
> http://subclipse.tigris.org/  (Subclipse would not install into Eclipse
> due to issues with dependices, which I was not able to successful install
> either)
>        SVN Command line client (Subversion 1.7 required!)
> http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
>        Spring IDE for Eclipse (installable via Help > Eclipse Marketplace)
> (no such menu option existed, or could I find a market place)
>        MySQL (or Postgres, or other Databases supported by Hibernate) are
> optionally but handy to have them
>
> Adding a new software site
> There are several different ways to add a software site to the list of
> sites that are used when browsing available software and checking for
> updates. You must know the Web Site location (URL) of the site that you
> want to add. To add the site, use one of the following procedures:
> *       Add a new site using the  Install/Update > Available Software
> Sites preference page.
> 1.      Click the Add... button.
> 2.      Type a name into the Name text box.
> 3.      If the software site is located on the web, type the Web Site
> location (URL) of the site into the Location text box. You may also paste
> or drag and drop a URL from a web browser into this text box.
> 4.      If the software site is in your local file system (including a
> CD), click Local... to specify the directory location of the site.
> 5.      If the software site is in your local file system but is packaged
> as a jar or zip file, click Archive... to specify the name of the file.
> *       Drag and drop the site URL from a browser into one of the
> following locations:
> 1.      The Work With combo box or the software list on the first page of
> the Install New Software wizard.
> 2.      The Available Software Sites preference page.
> 3.      The Location text field in the Add Site... dialog.
>
>
> https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/gef-nightly-tycho/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/update-site/
>
> http://download.eclipse.org/mylyn/releases/latest
>
> http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x
>
> Classic way, Eclipse IDE, click "Help" -> "Install New Software...". Type "
> http://springide.org/updatesite" to access the Spring IDE update site.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham****
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr]****
>
> Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org****
>
> Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
>
> It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
> However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the
> one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from
> sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt
>
> Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get
> the svn features.
>
>
>
> ----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
>     Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
>      De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à :
> openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>  Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
>       À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> > I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
> >
> >
> >
> > Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
> > OpenMeetings.
> >
> >
> >
> > Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
> > will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
> > OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
> >
> >
> >
> > You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
> > can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > George Kirkham
> >
> >
> >
> > IT Manager
> >
> > Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >
> > NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >
> > T: (02) 6120 1600
> >
> > F: (02) 6273 7181
> >
> > E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
> >
> > W: www.co2crc.com.au
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> > To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are
> > presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can
> > these be combined into one screen.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Georg,
> >
> > changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
> > service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
> > some caching.
> >
> > Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
> > way to contribute would be:
> > Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> > WebContent/languages/english.xml
> > src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238
> > => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff
> > using your favorite SVN tool
> >
> > Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
> >
> > I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
> > possible to be accepted.
> > You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
> > manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> > 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way
> > that works for us both.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Sebastian
> >
> > 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> >
> > Sebastian,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for
> > the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request
> better?
> >
> >
> >
> > 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> > for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field
> > in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?
> > (Maybe it needs a restart?)
> >
> > 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> > explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
> > the Whiteboard".
> >
> > 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> > like there is in the "User" manager.
> >
> > 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> > change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> > meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is
> > relevant to the particular meeting?
> >
> > 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> > flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
> > needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
> > to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
> >
> > 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> > "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC
> > will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No
> > audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be
> shown"
> >
> > 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> > explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on
> > whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You
> > need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to
> > upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other
> > to check my suggestion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > George Kirkham
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> > http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
> > http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
>
>
> ----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----
>
> ****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax****
>



-- 
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Maxim aka solomax

RE: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Max,

 

I should have asked, how to you install “Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin” ?

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 1:59 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

 

Under Ubuntu 12.04

I use:

1) ant from apt-get (1.8.2 works as expected)

2) Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin

3) command line svn (apt-get subversion)

4) oracle jdk 1.6 (downloaded as .bin)

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:

Thibault,

Sadly I did not get far following the instructions at

http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/BuildInstructions.html

Step1 - Get required Software

   To develop OpenMeetings you need at least:

       Eclipse in a up to date copy and Sun JDK6  (used Deiban packages for Sun JDK and Eclipse)
       Apache ANT (minimum) 1.8.3  (installed)
       Subclipse 1.8 (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subclipse.tigris.org/  (Subclipse would not install into Eclipse due to issues with dependices, which I was not able to successful install either)
       SVN Command line client (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
       Spring IDE for Eclipse (installable via Help > Eclipse Marketplace) (no such menu option existed, or could I find a market place)
       MySQL (or Postgres, or other Databases supported by Hibernate) are optionally but handy to have them

Adding a new software site
There are several different ways to add a software site to the list of sites that are used when browsing available software and checking for updates. You must know the Web Site location (URL) of the site that you want to add. To add the site, use one of the following procedures:
*       Add a new site using the  Install/Update > Available Software Sites preference page.
1.      Click the Add... button.
2.      Type a name into the Name text box.
3.      If the software site is located on the web, type the Web Site location (URL) of the site into the Location text box. You may also paste or drag and drop a URL from a web browser into this text box.
4.      If the software site is in your local file system (including a CD), click Local... to specify the directory location of the site.
5.      If the software site is in your local file system but is packaged as a jar or zip file, click Archive... to specify the name of the file.
*       Drag and drop the site URL from a browser into one of the following locations:
1.      The Work With combo box or the software list on the first page of the Install New Software wizard.
2.      The Available Software Sites preference page.
3.      The Location text field in the Add Site... dialog.

https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/gef-nightly-tycho/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/update-site/

http://download.eclipse.org/mylyn/releases/latest

http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x

Classic way, Eclipse IDE, click "Help" -> "Install New Software...". Type "http://springide.org/updatesite" to access the Spring IDE update site.

Thanks,

George Kirkham




-----Original Message-----
From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr]

Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org

Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt

Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get the svn features.



----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
    Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
     De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
 Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
      À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org


> I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
>
>
>
> Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
> OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
> Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
> will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
> OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
>
>
>
> You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
> can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are
> presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can
> these be combined into one screen.
>
>
>
> Hi Georg,
>
> changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
> service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
> some caching.
>
> Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
> way to contribute would be:
> Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> WebContent/languages/english.xml
> src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238
> => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff
> using your favorite SVN tool
>
> Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
>
> I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
> possible to be accepted.
> You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
> manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way
> that works for us both.
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for
> the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?
>
>
>
> 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field
> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?
> (Maybe it needs a restart?)
>
> 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
> the Whiteboard".
>
> 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> like there is in the "User" manager.
>
> 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is
> relevant to the particular meeting?
>
> 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
> needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
> to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC
> will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No
> audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"
>
> 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on
> whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You
> need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to
> upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other
> to check my suggestion.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
> http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>


----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----







 

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Under Ubuntu 12.04
I use:
1) ant from apt-get (1.8.2 works as expected)
2) Eclipse EE + subclipse plugin
3) command line svn (apt-get subversion)
4) oracle jdk 1.6 (downloaded as .bin)

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:

> Thibault,
>
> Sadly I did not get far following the instructions at
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/BuildInstructions.html
>
> Step1 - Get required Software
>
>    To develop OpenMeetings you need at least:
>
>        Eclipse in a up to date copy and Sun JDK6  (used Deiban packages
> for Sun JDK and Eclipse)
>        Apache ANT (minimum) 1.8.3  (installed)
>        Subclipse 1.8 (Subversion 1.7 required!)
> http://subclipse.tigris.org/  (Subclipse would not install into Eclipse
> due to issues with dependices, which I was not able to successful install
> either)
>        SVN Command line client (Subversion 1.7 required!)
> http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
>        Spring IDE for Eclipse (installable via Help > Eclipse Marketplace)
> (no such menu option existed, or could I find a market place)
>        MySQL (or Postgres, or other Databases supported by Hibernate) are
> optionally but handy to have them
>
> Adding a new software site
> There are several different ways to add a software site to the list of
> sites that are used when browsing available software and checking for
> updates. You must know the Web Site location (URL) of the site that you
> want to add. To add the site, use one of the following procedures:
> *       Add a new site using the  Install/Update > Available Software
> Sites preference page.
> 1.      Click the Add... button.
> 2.      Type a name into the Name text box.
> 3.      If the software site is located on the web, type the Web Site
> location (URL) of the site into the Location text box. You may also paste
> or drag and drop a URL from a web browser into this text box.
> 4.      If the software site is in your local file system (including a
> CD), click Local... to specify the directory location of the site.
> 5.      If the software site is in your local file system but is packaged
> as a jar or zip file, click Archive... to specify the name of the file.
> *       Drag and drop the site URL from a browser into one of the
> following locations:
> 1.      The Work With combo box or the software list on the first page of
> the Install New Software wizard.
> 2.      The Available Software Sites preference page.
> 3.      The Location text field in the Add Site... dialog.
>
>
> https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/gef-nightly-tycho/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/update-site/
>
> http://download.eclipse.org/mylyn/releases/latest
>
> http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x
>
> Classic way, Eclipse IDE, click "Help" -> "Install New Software...". Type "
> http://springide.org/updatesite" to access the Spring IDE update site.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr]
> Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
>
> It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
> However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the
> one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from
> sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt
>
> Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get
> the svn features.
>
>
>
> ----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
>     Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
>      De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à :
> openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>  Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
>       À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> > I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
> >
> >
> >
> > Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
> > OpenMeetings.
> >
> >
> >
> > Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
> > will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
> > OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
> >
> >
> >
> > You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
> > can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > George Kirkham
> >
> >
> >
> > IT Manager
> >
> > Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >
> > NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >
> > T: (02) 6120 1600
> >
> > F: (02) 6273 7181
> >
> > E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
> >
> > W: www.co2crc.com.au
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> > To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are
> > presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can
> > these be combined into one screen.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Georg,
> >
> > changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
> > service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
> > some caching.
> >
> > Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
> > way to contribute would be:
> > Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> > WebContent/languages/english.xml
> > src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238
> > => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff
> > using your favorite SVN tool
> >
> > Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
> >
> > I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
> > possible to be accepted.
> > You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
> > manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> > 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way
> > that works for us both.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Sebastian
> >
> > 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> >
> > Sebastian,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for
> > the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request
> better?
> >
> >
> >
> > 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> > for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field
> > in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?
> > (Maybe it needs a restart?)
> >
> > 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> > explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
> > the Whiteboard".
> >
> > 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> > like there is in the "User" manager.
> >
> > 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> > change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> > meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is
> > relevant to the particular meeting?
> >
> > 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> > flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
> > needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
> > to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
> >
> > 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> > "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC
> > will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No
> > audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be
> shown"
> >
> > 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> > explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on
> > whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You
> > need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to
> > upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other
> > to check my suggestion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > George Kirkham
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> > http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
> > http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
>
>
> ----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----
>
>
>


-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

RE: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Thibault,

Sadly I did not get far following the instructions at 

http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/BuildInstructions.html 

Step1 - Get required Software

    To develop OpenMeetings you need at least:

        Eclipse in a up to date copy and Sun JDK6  (used Deiban packages for Sun JDK and Eclipse)
        Apache ANT (minimum) 1.8.3  (installed)
        Subclipse 1.8 (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subclipse.tigris.org/  (Subclipse would not install into Eclipse due to issues with dependices, which I was not able to successful install either)
        SVN Command line client (Subversion 1.7 required!) http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
        Spring IDE for Eclipse (installable via Help > Eclipse Marketplace) (no such menu option existed, or could I find a market place)
        MySQL (or Postgres, or other Databases supported by Hibernate) are optionally but handy to have them

Adding a new software site
There are several different ways to add a software site to the list of sites that are used when browsing available software and checking for updates. You must know the Web Site location (URL) of the site that you want to add. To add the site, use one of the following procedures:
*	Add a new site using the  Install/Update > Available Software Sites preference page.
1.	Click the Add... button.
2.	Type a name into the Name text box.
3.	If the software site is located on the web, type the Web Site location (URL) of the site into the Location text box. You may also paste or drag and drop a URL from a web browser into this text box.
4.	If the software site is in your local file system (including a CD), click Local... to specify the directory location of the site. 
5.	If the software site is in your local file system but is packaged as a jar or zip file, click Archive... to specify the name of the file.
*	Drag and drop the site URL from a browser into one of the following locations:
1.	The Work With combo box or the software list on the first page of the Install New Software wizard.
2.	The Available Software Sites preference page. 
3.	The Location text field in the Add Site... dialog.

https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/gef-nightly-tycho/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/update-site/

http://download.eclipse.org/mylyn/releases/latest

http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.8.x

Classic way, Eclipse IDE, click "Help" -> "Install New Software...". Type "http://springide.org/updatesite" to access the Spring IDE update site.

Thanks,

George Kirkham



-----Original Message-----
From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr] 
Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt

Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get the svn features.



----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
     Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
      De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
  Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
       À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org


> I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
>
>
>
> Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit 
> OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
> Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it 
> will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build 
> OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
>
>
>
> You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and 
> can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are 
> presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can 
> these be combined into one screen.
>
>
>
> Hi Georg,
>
> changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5 
> service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does 
> some caching.
>
> Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right 
> way to contribute would be:
> Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> WebContent/languages/english.xml
> src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238 
> => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff 
> using your favorite SVN tool
>
> Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
>
> I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be 
> possible to be accepted.
> You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed 
> manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way 
> that works for us both.
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for 
> the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?
>
>
>
> 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field 
> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  
> (Maybe it needs a restart?)
>
> 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to 
> the Whiteboard".
>
> 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> like there is in the "User" manager.
>
> 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each 
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is 
> relevant to the particular meeting?
>
> 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always 
> needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget 
> to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC 
> will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No 
> audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"
>
> 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on 
> whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You 
> need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to 
> upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other 
> to check my suggestion.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de> 
> http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de> 
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com> 
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>


----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----



Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
George,

I will send you the steps shortly for eclipse on Debian

Best regards

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 May 2012, at 08:49, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:

> 
> 
> I wish I could " you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui ", but this does not work so well, it keeps failing due to some kind of dependencies.
> 
> Maybe "download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS " would work better, but then how would I do this?
> 
> It looks like I cannot get Debian's Eclipse to work, so back to using Text Editors, but which openmeetings files should I edit?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> George Kirkham
> 
> IT Manager
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> T: (02) 6120 1600
> F: (02) 6273 7181
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
> 
> 
> 
Stephen Cottham
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr] 
> Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
> 
> It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
> However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt
> 
> Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get the svn features.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
>     Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
>      De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>  Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
>       À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> 
> 
>> I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit 
>> OpenMeetings.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it 
>> will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build 
>> OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and 
>> can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> George Kirkham
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> IT Manager
>> 
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>> 
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>> 
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>> 
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>> 
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>> 
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
>> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are 
>> presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can 
>> these be combined into one screen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Georg,
>> 
>> changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5 
>> service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does 
>> some caching.
>> 
>> Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right 
>> way to contribute would be:
>> Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
>> WebContent/languages/english.xml
>> src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238 
>> => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff 
>> using your favorite SVN tool
>> 
>> Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
>> 
>> I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be 
>> possible to be accepted.
>> You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed 
>> manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
>> 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way 
>> that works for us both.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Sebastian
>> 
>> 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>> 
>> Sebastian,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for 
>> the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
>> for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field 
>> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  
>> (Maybe it needs a restart?)
>> 
>> 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
>> explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to 
>> the Whiteboard".
>> 
>> 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
>> like there is in the "User" manager.
>> 
>> 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
>> change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each 
>> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is 
>> relevant to the particular meeting?
>> 
>> 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
>> flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always 
>> needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget 
>> to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
>> 
>> 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
>> "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC 
>> will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No 
>> audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"
>> 
>> 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
>> explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on 
>> whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You 
>> need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to 
>> upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other 
>> to check my suggestion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> George Kirkham
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
>> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de> 
>> http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de> 
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com> 
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> ----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----
> 
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RE: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.

I wish I could " you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui ", but this does not work so well, it keeps failing due to some kind of dependencies.

Maybe "download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS " would work better, but then how would I do this?

It looks like I cannot get Debian's Eclipse to work, so back to using Text Editors, but which openmeetings files should I edit?


Thanks,

George Kirkham

IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 
W: www.co2crc.com.au



-----Original Message-----
From: Thibault Le Meur [mailto:Thibault.LeMeur@supelec.fr] 
Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 4:26 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using the one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the one from sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be put in /opt

Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to get the svn features.



----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
     Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
      De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> Répondre à : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
  Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
       À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org


> I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
>
>
>
> Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit 
> OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
> Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it 
> will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build 
> OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
>
>
>
> You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and 
> can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are 
> presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can 
> these be combined into one screen.
>
>
>
> Hi Georg,
>
> changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5 
> service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does 
> some caching.
>
> Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right 
> way to contribute would be:
> Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool Edit the files:
> WebContent/languages/english.xml
> src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238 
> => add your salution to the install routine Create a patch / SVN Diff 
> using your favorite SVN tool
>
> Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
>
> I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be 
> possible to be accepted.
> You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed 
> manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way 
> that works for us both.
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for 
> the following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?
>
>
>
> 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field 
> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  
> (Maybe it needs a restart?)
>
> 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to 
> the Whiteboard".
>
> 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> like there is in the "User" manager.
>
> 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each 
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is 
> relevant to the particular meeting?
>
> 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always 
> needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget 
> to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC 
> will be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No 
> audio/video from your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"
>
> 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on 
> whiteboard to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You 
> need to be a Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to 
> upload, add, delete or load files and folders." But please ask other 
> to check my suggestion.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de> 
> http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de> 
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com> 
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>


----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----



Re: Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by Thibault Le Meur <Th...@supelec.fr>.
It's been a long time since I've used eclipse on linux.
However, I would recommend that you download eclipse instead of using  
the one provided by your OS, the same goes with the java jdk (use the  
one from sun), and ant (download it from apache). Everything can be  
put in /opt

Then you can install the subclipse plugin from within eclipse gui, to  
get the svn features.



----- Message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au ---------
     Date : Sun, 6 May 2012 15:11:30 +1000
      De : George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Répondre à : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
  Objet : Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse
       À : openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org


> I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,
>
>
>
> Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
> OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
> Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
> will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
> OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.
>
>
>
> You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
> can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented
> with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be
> combined into one screen.
>
>
>
> Hi Georg,
>
> changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
> service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
> some caching.
>
> Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
> way to contribute would be:
> Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool
> Edit the files:
> WebContent/languages/english.xml
> src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238 =>
> add your salution to the install routine
> Create a patch / SVN Diff using your favorite SVN tool
>
> Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)
>
> I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
> possible to be accepted.
> You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
> manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
> 1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way that
> works for us both.
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for the
> following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?
>
>
>
> 1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
> for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field in
> the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  (Maybe it
> needs a restart?)
>
> 2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
> explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
> the Whiteboard".
>
> 3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
> like there is in the "User" manager.
>
> 4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
> change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is relevant
> to the particular meeting?
>
> 5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
> flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
> needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
> to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> 6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
> "choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC will
> be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No audio/video from
> your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"
>
> 7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
> explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on whiteboard
> to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You need to be a
> Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to upload, add,
> delete or load files and folders." But please ask other to check my
> suggestion.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
> http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>


----- Fin du message de gkirkham@co2crc.com.au -----



Editing OpenMeetings with Eclipse

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
I am using Debian for my OpenMeetings server,

 

Could someone give me  a few hints on how to install Eclipse to edit
OpenMeetings.

 

Using synaptic package manager, if I select the package "eclipse", it
will want to also install debian's ant but to be able to build
OpenMeeting I had to download and use Apache's ant.

 

You are correct I am using "svn", does Eclipse integrate with svn and
can I set Eclipse to use my downloaded Apache's ant ?

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:37 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented
with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be
combined into one screen.

 

Hi Georg,

changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does
some caching. 

Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right
way to contribute would be:
Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool
Edit the files:
WebContent/languages/english.xml
src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238 =>
add your salution to the install routine
Create a patch / SVN Diff using your favorite SVN tool

Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)

I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
possible to be accepted.
You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like
1,2,3 please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way that
works for us both.

Thanks!
Sebastian

2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>

Sebastian,

 

I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for the
following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?

 

1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field in
the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  (Maybe it
needs a restart?)

2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
the Whiteboard".

3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
like there is in the "User" manager.

4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is relevant
to the particular meeting?

5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."

6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
"choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC will
be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No audio/video from
your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"

7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on whiteboard
to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You need to be a
Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to upload, add,
delete or load files and folders." But please ask other to check my
suggestion.

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 




-- 
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock> 
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de> 
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de> 
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com> 
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> 


Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined into one screen.

Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Georg,

changes to the plain tables in the databases require restart of red5
service as there is a ORM Layer inbetween involved (OpenJPA) that does some
caching.

Your changes to labels and salutions seem reasonable however the right way
to contribute would be:
Checkout the project using your favorite SVN tool
Edit the files:
WebContent/languages/english.xml
src/org.openmeetings.app.installation.ImportInitvalues.java Line 238 => add
your salution to the install routine
Create a patch / SVN Diff using your favorite SVN tool

Open a Jira Issue + attach your SVN patch :)

I am sorry but requests with x files to be changed manually won't be
possible to be accepted.
You might find some kind developers that accept 1 file to be changed
manually and they create the patch then for you but with lists like 1,2,3
please change x,y,z => this just will not work, we need a way that works
for us both.

Thanks!
Sebastian

2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>

> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for the
> following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> **1)      **Improvement - add a new “salutation” for the User’s Title
> field for “Prof” (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new “salutation” field
> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  (Maybe it
> needs a restart?)
>
> ****
>
> **2)      **Improvement - change the English text for 1312, “upload file
> explorer”, from “Do directly load to whiteboard” to “Load directly to the
> Whiteboard”.
>
> ****
>
> **3)      **Improvement - add a search field in the “Language Editor”
> just like there is in the “User” manager.
>
> ****
>
> **4)      **Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed
> to change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is relevant to
> the particular meeting?
>
> ****
>
> **5)      **Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   “recording
> flag”, from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always needs
> to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget to ‘start
> recording’, if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> ****
>
> **6)      **Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
>  “choose_video_settings_info_text” from  “No audio/video from you PC will
> be published, you profile picture will be shown” to “No audio/video from
> your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown”
>
> ****
>
> **7)      **Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  “file
> explorer”  from “ You need moderation or the right to draw on whiteboard to
> upload, add, delete or load files and folders.”  To “You need to be a
> Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to upload, add, delete
> or load files and folders.” But please ask other to check my suggestion.
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>



-- 
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com

RE: Choose device - Combine device settings and audio/video test in single UI - "Do not ask again" check box in "Choose device" window

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,

 

I have downloaded and installed "Build #68", however the "Combine device
settings and audio/video test in single UI" does not seem to be part of
this build ? 

 

At this time only the "Choose devices" dialog box is showing.  To be
honest, I do not mind this configuration, if it is to be the new way.

 

How is OpenMeeting behaving for you?

 

The video Window has orange top and bottom boarders.

 

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:02 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Choose device - Combine device settings and audio/video test in
single UI - "Do not ask again" check box in "Choose device" window

 

I very much like the new "Choose device" window, but does anyone have
the issue that if you have the "Do not ask again" check box option
enabled, then window stays up in the top of the screen and does not
slide down, thus the window is barely visible?  Of course this is
confusing for any users.

 

I am able to select the bottom of the "Choose device" window and drag it
down so I can access it.

 

The "Do not ask again" check box seems to be altering the behaviour of
the "Choose device" window.

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

 

#59 (06-May-2012 23:01:07)
<https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/59/changes> 

23941.                    OPENMEETINGS-259
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-259>  English
Language Text improvements - sebawagner
<https://builds.apache.org/user/sebawagner/>  / detail
<https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/59/changes#detail0> 

23870.                    OPENMEETINGS-258
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-258>  Combine device
settings and audio/video test in single UI - sebawagner
<https://builds.apache.org/user/sebawagner/>  / detail
<https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/59/changes#detail1> 

 


Choose device - Combine device settings and audio/video test in single UI - "Do not ask again" check box in "Choose device" window

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
I very much like the new "Choose device" window, but does anyone have
the issue that if you have the "Do not ask again" check box option
enabled, then window stays up in the top of the screen and does not
slide down, thus the window is barely visible?  Of course this is
confusing for any users.

 

I am able to select the bottom of the "Choose device" window and drag it
down so I can access it.

 

The "Do not ask again" check box seems to be altering the behaviour of
the "Choose device" window.

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

 

#59 (06-May-2012 23:01:07)
<https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/59/changes> 

23941.                    OPENMEETINGS-259
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-259>  English
Language Text improvements - sebawagner
<https://builds.apache.org/user/sebawagner/>  / detail
<https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/59/changes#detail0> 

23870.                    OPENMEETINGS-258
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-258>  Combine device
settings and audio/video test in single UI - sebawagner
<https://builds.apache.org/user/sebawagner/>  / detail
<https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/59/changes#detail1> 

 


Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined into one screen.

Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Regarding the proposal to combine the device settings and the audio video
test into a single UI:
I've committed a change that should realize that (see:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-258)
The change does also include to see the selected resolution in the recorded
5-sec test as preview.

Sebastian

2012/5/5 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>

> I agree with George's suggested fixes, especially to the English text. For
> native English speakers it sounds unprofessional the way it is now.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
> On May 5, 2012 8:45 AM, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Sebastian,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for the
>> following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?*
>> ***
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> **1)      **Improvement - add a new “salutation” for the User’s Title
>> field for “Prof” (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new “salutation” field
>> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  (Maybe it
>> needs a restart?)
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **2)      **Improvement - change the English text for 1312, “upload file
>> explorer”, from “Do directly load to whiteboard” to “Load directly to the
>> Whiteboard”.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **3)      **Improvement - add a search field in the “Language Editor”
>> just like there is in the “User” manager.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **4)      **Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed
>> to change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
>> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is relevant to
>> the particular meeting?
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **5)      **Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,
>>   “recording flag”, from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room
>> always needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not
>> forget to ‘start recording’, if you want have the meeting recorded."
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **6)      **Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
>>  “choose_video_settings_info_text” from  “No audio/video from you PC will
>> be published, you profile picture will be shown” to “No audio/video from
>> your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown”
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **7)      **Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  “file
>> explorer”  from “ You need moderation or the right to draw on whiteboard to
>> upload, add, delete or load files and folders.”  To “You need to be a
>> Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to upload, add, delete
>> or load files and folders.” But please ask other to check my suggestion.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> George Kirkham****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>


-- 
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com

RE: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined into one screen.

Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
I agree with George's suggested fixes, especially to the English text. For
native English speakers it sounds unprofessional the way it is now.

Thanks!

Dan
On May 5, 2012 8:45 AM, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:

> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for the
> following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> **1)      **Improvement - add a new “salutation” for the User’s Title
> field for “Prof” (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new “salutation” field
> in the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  (Maybe it
> needs a restart?)
>
> ****
>
> **2)      **Improvement - change the English text for 1312, “upload file
> explorer”, from “Do directly load to whiteboard” to “Load directly to the
> Whiteboard”.
>
> ****
>
> **3)      **Improvement - add a search field in the “Language Editor”
> just like there is in the “User” manager.
>
> ****
>
> **4)      **Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed
> to change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
> meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is relevant to
> the particular meeting?
>
> ****
>
> **5)      **Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   “recording
> flag”, from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always needs
> to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget to ‘start
> recording’, if you want have the meeting recorded."
>
> ****
>
> **6)      **Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
>  “choose_video_settings_info_text” from  “No audio/video from you PC will
> be published, you profile picture will be shown” to “No audio/video from
> your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown”
>
> ****
>
> **7)      **Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  “file
> explorer”  from “ You need moderation or the right to draw on whiteboard to
> upload, add, delete or load files and folders.”  To “You need to be a
> Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to upload, add, delete
> or load files and folders.” But please ask other to check my suggestion.
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>

RE: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined into one screen.

Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,

 

I would like to submit new change records (Improvement request) for the
following, is this reasonable?  And should I explain the request better?

 

1)      Improvement - add a new "salutation" for the User's Title field
for "Prof" (e.g. Professor). I tried to add a new "salutation" field in
the Language editor but OpenMeetings is not using it as yet?  (Maybe it
needs a restart?)



2)      Improvement - change the English text for 1312, "upload file
explorer", from "Do directly load to whiteboard" to "Load directly to
the Whiteboard".



3)      Improvement - add a search field in the "Language Editor" just
like there is in the "User" manager.



4)      Improvement - Can the User sending an Invitation be allowed to
change the Subject line, or at least add text to it, so that each
meeting Invitation email can have a unique subject line that is relevant
to the particular meeting?



5)      Improvement - Fix text in English text for 1315,   "recording
flag", from  "Do not forget start recording. One user per room always
needs to start it to have the recording afterwards." To "Do not forget
to 'start recording', if you want have the meeting recorded."



6)      Improvement - Fix typo in English text for 452,
"choose_video_settings_info_text" from  "No audio/video from you PC will
be published, you profile picture will be shown" to "No audio/video from
your PC will be published, your profile picture will be shown"



7)      Improvement - Suggest changing English text for 1462,  "file
explorer"  from " You need moderation or the right to draw on whiteboard
to upload, add, delete or load files and folders."  To "You need to be a
Moderator or have the right to 'draw on whiteboard' to upload, add,
delete or load files and folders." But please ask other to check my
suggestion.



 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 


Re: When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two screens asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined into one screen.

Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hallo Georg,

I don't understand this request.
There are no identical boxes.
1) There is the Audio / Video test where you can record 5 seconds of video
and playback (this pops up even before entering the room)
2) There are the device settings to choose your audio / video

=> Both boxes have on the bottom a checkbox already "do not ask again".
=> In the roomtype restricted the (2) popup will not popup
=> In the room configuration you can disable the popup (1)

I don't think that there is something to do here.
As for the resolution: You always can re-start your audio/video by clicking
on the re-sync icon and choose different settings and restart the
publishing.

Sebastian

2012/5/5 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>

> Hi,****
>
> ** **
>
> When a user first joins an Meeting Room, they are presented with two
> screens both asking about Audio/Video hardware, can these be combined into
> one screen, please.****
>
> ** **
>
> Users find it frustrating and very confusing when they first join in a
> OpenMeetings Meeting Room because they are presented with two similar but
> different screens (I know I have been trying to introduce several people to
> OpenMeetings).  I do like the option of being able to “not show these
> again”.****
>
> ** **
>
> What I would suggest is that only the device selection screen appears.****
>
> ** **
>
> For Audio a “Microphone Test” toggle button be there with a microphone
> level meter for the test. ****
>
> ** **
>
> For video, 1) since the video camera drop down list detects if there is a
> video camera, then why not only give the users the “video options” to
> select from if they have a video camera, ****
>
> 2) if they select a video camera, load up a second floating “video” window
> to the side which shows the video at the resolution that they select, if
> they select a different resolution then change the video window to that
> resolution, this way they can see the effect/size of their video resolution
> selection.  After all in the current system, once they have chosen their
> devices they are given a video window anyway, why not a bit earlier so that
> can interactively select an appropriate resolution. Currently I see people
> either select a too small resolution or a too large resolution as they have
> no idea how it will look.****
>
> ** **
>
> Please let me know what you think about this suggestion and if it is
> feasible.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>



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